does Christ know how many mansions to build?
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Lifelong_sinner
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Yes, Jesus knows how many are His.
John 10:14
[14]I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.
2 Timothy 2:19
[19]Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.
John 10:14
[14]I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.
2 Timothy 2:19
[19]Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.
Not according to scripture:
Isaiah 45:7
King James Version
7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.
What is the point of these POINTLESS questions? Of course God and Christ know precisely and exactly how many mansions there will be in the New Jerusalem. So for whom are these pointless questions? Or are you simply trying to stir the pot and make a witch's brew out of nothing?
There's a huge difference between houses and mansions. And the verse you are looking for is in John 14:2: In my Father's house [Heaven] are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
"Abode" is correct. "A body" is incorrect. And an abode can be anything from a hovel to a mansion. In the context of Heaven, mansion is appropriate, and those mansions will be far beyond any which are found on earth. Imagine a mansion built out of gold and precious stones, not bricks and mortar.
Lifelong_sinner
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God did not create evil, but He does allow evil. If God had not allowed for the possibility of evil, both mankind and angels would be serving God out of obligation, not choice. God is incapable of having anything to do with evil.
Lifelong_sinner
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so you believe that God created evil…so why is He concerned about sin? Why did He send His Son to earth to die a terrible death for something He created?? In Genesis, when He created everything, it was all good.
i think a better question would be, on judgement day, when you’re facing Him for judgement, are you going to tell Him yes, i blame you for all the evil?
Yes, God made or created it all!
He made everything "very good" in the beginning...
"And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day." Gen 1:31
God as part of His plan, left a loophole for evil to come in by allowing men to disobey Him. This was the beginning of evil for men.
Adam and Eve went through the loophole!
And so it was, but then also as part of His plan God sent His Son to provide Life for all of us, who were dead:
"The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly." John 10:10
this must be put together & understood with:
This is the message which we have heard from Him and declare to you,
that God is light and in Him is no darkness at all
(1 John 1:5)
that God is light and in Him is no darkness at all
(1 John 1:5)
if you do not believe God is good, you cannot possibly understand scripture.
the word in Isaiah 45:7 that kjv puts as 'evil' alternately means 'disaster' or 'calamity' or 'harm' or 'injury' or 'distress'
kjv is not always correct.
look at the passage. read the whole chapter. what is He saying to Cyrus?
He gives two pairs of directly opposite things: light and darkness, peace and ______
what is the opposite of peace? evil?
Christ came not to bring peace but _____ ((the opposite of peace)) -- Matthew 10:34
did Christ come to bring evil? are we calling Jesus evil now, because He brought the opposite of peace?
Let's not assume what each others beliefs are. You took it way too far on the judgment day stuff. The bible is clear in the statement that the Lord created evil. You appear to be trying to dispute the bible not me.
I don't think God is evil which should be clear from my attempt to say he knows not evil. But clearly the bible spells out he created evil. Also let's point out who God is and what he does:
Deuteronomy 32:39-41
King James Version
39 See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.
40 For I lift up my hand to heaven, and say, I live for ever.
41 If I whet my glittering sword, and mine hand take hold on judgment; I will render vengeance to mine enemies, and will reward them that hate me.
Bob Estey
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I checked the first verse you displayed - it does not relate to the subject at hand, does it?
Bob Estey
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when God kills, wounds, takes vengance and judges -- that is not evil.
judgement and vengeance belong to Him. it is good when He judges.
this informs you what the correct understanding of Isaiah 45:7 is. He creates peace, and the opposite of peace.
the opposite of peace isn't 'evil' it's distress.
they all relate to whether unitarian universalism is true or not.
you have been giving the impression that you believe it is true - that is the subject at hand.
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