How can God's justice be fulfilled in UR if everyone is saved in the end?
Is the wrath of God absent in Christian Universalism?
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Is the wrath of God absent in Christian Universalism?
Let's discuss. Thanks.
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Don"t be miss led...universalism is a false hood.How can God's justice be fulfilled in UR if everyone is saved in the end?
Is the wrath of God absent in Christian Universalism?
Let's discuss. Thanks.
The Teaching on hell as a place of eternal conscious punishment, by Jesus Christ Himself; and the fact that Jesus is very clear that there are FEW who will enter by the Narrow Gate, renders "Universal Salvation", HERESY!
The Holy Bible is The Infallible, Inerrant Word of God, and has no errors or contradictions, which US will require that it does.
Don"t be miss led...universalism is a false hood.
That is one of many ...new age religion...teachings that is not biblical.
For everyone to be saved, despite some completely rejecting a life lived in accord with God's word, is not justice. Salvation implies that someone has chosen to live in accord with God's word. So you cannot have someone saved who rejects a life lived in union with God.How can God's justice be fulfilled in UR if everyone is saved in the end?
Is the wrath of God absent in Christian Universalism?
Let's discuss. Thanks.
For everyone to be saved, despite some completely rejecting a life lived in accord with God's word, is not justice. Salvation implies that someone has chosen to live in accord with God's word. So you cannot have someone saved who rejects a life lived in union with God.
STRONGS NT 928: βασανίζω
βασανίζω: (imperfect ἐβασάνιζον); 1 aorist ἐβασανισα; passive (present βασανίζομαι); 1 aorist ἐβασανίσθην; 1 future βασανισθήσομαι; (βάσανος);
1. properly, to test (metals) by the touchstone.
2. to question by applying torture.
3. to torture (2 Macc. 7:13); hence,
4. universally, to vex with grievous pains (of body or mind), to torment: τινα, Matthew 8:29; Mark 5:7; Luke 8:28; 2 Peter 2:8; Revelation 11:10; passively, Matthew 8:6; Revelation 9:5; Revelation 20:10; of the pains of childbirth, Revelation 12:2 (cf. Anthol. 2, p. 205, Jacobs edition); with ἐν and the dative of the material in which one is tormented, Revelation 14:10.
5. Passive to be harassed, distressed; of those who at sea are struggling with a head wind, Mark 6:48; of a ship tossed by the waves, Matthew 14:24. (In Greek writings from Herodotus down. Often in O. T. Apocrypha.)
Cognate: 931 básanos – originally, a black, silicon-based stone used as "a touchstone" to test the purity of precious metals (like silver and gold). See 928 (basanízō).
[In the papyri, basanos also means, "touchstone," "test" (so P Oxy I. 58.25, ad 288).
931 (basanois) was "originally (from oriental origin) a touchstone; a 'Lydian stone' used for testing gold because pure gold rubbed on it left a peculiar mark. Then it was used for examination by torture. Sickness was often regarded as 'torture' " (WP, 1, 37).]
STRONGS NT 931: βάσανος
βάσανος, βασάνου, ἡ (Curtius, p. 439);
a. the touchstone (called also basanite, LatinlapisLydius), by which gold and other metals are tested.
b. the rack or instrument of torture by which one is forced to divulge the truth.
c. torture, torment, acute pains: used of the pains of disease, Matthew 4:24; of the torments of the wicked after death, ἐν βασάνοις ὑπάρχειν, Luke 16:23 (Wis. 3:1; 4 Macc. 13:14); hence, ὁ τόπος τῆς βασάνου is used of Gehenna, Luke 16:28. (In Greek writings from (Theognis), Pindar down.)
Who do you think has got your attention when horror is in your communication?I've always envisioned that Jesus will make Hitler's death camps look like a leisurely day at the park by comparison. The Nazis could only torture them to death once each, but Jesus can torture them to death, raise them up and torture them again FOREVER and EVER!
I'm just keeping my fingers crossed that Jesus will let some of us torture those bad people too! How about it? You in?
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Possibly note the type of images to accompany your sarcasm.I've always envisioned that Jesus will make Hitler's death camps look like a leisurely day at the park by comparison. The Nazis could only torture them to death once each, but Jesus can torture them to death, raise them up and torture them again FOREVER and EVER!
I'm just keeping my fingers crossed that Jesus will let some of us torture those bad people too! How about it? You in?
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Do you mean an English translation, of which none agree? Same with interpretation.The Holy Bible is The Infallible, Inerrant Word of God, and has no errors or contradictions
Consider this.The Teaching on hell as a place of eternal conscious punishment, by Jesus Christ Himself
That's the theology of most Christians, that Jesus sends the bad people to Hell where they are made to suffer FOREVER. Do you deny this foundational belief?Who do you think has got your attention when horror is in your communication?
Not so. Origins are in the early church.Don"t be miss led...universalism is a false hood.
That is one of many ...new age religion...teachings that is not biblical.
I do. No one goes to hell anymore. Its a false nomer due to Jesus and his victory, i also hate/ dislike christian culture. There is only the outside or to go in the inside of the Kingdom, faithless and faithful.That's the theology of most Christians, that Jesus sends the bad people to Hell where they are made to suffer FOREVER. Do you deny this foundational belief?
Revelation 14:11 says in part "...and they have no rest, day or night"No eternal torment just total cessation of life...