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Christ himself, was the biggest transgressor of the Sabbath, if anyone was.
If you take the Rest of God for God doing nothing, yes!
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Christ himself, was the biggest transgressor of the Sabbath, if anyone was.
Sooooo, commemorating the Day of Rest on Saturn's Day - the god of wealth and agriculture, is better than Sunday??
The Church merely declared the FULFILLMENT of the Sabbath - which Christ stated emphatically that HE was Lord over (Matt. 12:8). There was no "overruling" of ANYTHING.
Sooooo, commemorating the Day of Rest on Saturn's Day - the god of wealth and agriculture, is better than Sunday??
The Church merely declared the FULFILLMENT of the Sabbath - which Christ stated emphatically that HE was Lord over (Matt. 12:8). There was no "overruling" of ANYTHING.
God gave it to Israel, and Israel alone. Every covenant has a sign to that covenant. But when the covenant comes to an end, so does the sign. Some covenants overlap future covenants, and the sign remains because the covenant remains.
Yes, that was how I meant it. ...but, in order to show the temporal, or lack of intrinsic righteousness about it. in other words, I don't see it, therefore, as a universal mandate similar to 'thou shall not murder', or ''thou shall not steal'. Which are inherently wrong, under any circumstances, eras, or dimensions.If you take the Rest of God for God doing nothing, yes!
Now hold on a minute.. You said yourself that God blessed the Sabbath... You agreed with the scripture in Genesis... Are you suggesting that He blessed it in anticipation of a future Israel? That Adam totally ignored the Sabbath because he wasn't Jewish? So where did the Sabbath go from creation, when Jesus, (yes, as Creator He was the one who blessed the 7th day, establishing the week as we follow 6000 years later, thus it truly is the Lord's Day... Not Sunday) established it, and the time of the exodus where I no doubt you will claim it first came to light?God gave it to Israel, and Israel alone
That is why we have Gods Word to show us what is truth, and what is man made...Reminds me of that day, when the big mountain Goats are coming into mating season, and rutt up to one another and butt heads, just get a lot of sore heads and no one wins. But men are stubborn this will go on till time itself ends, or Jesus comes than the scales will fall off, and pride will be found wanting.
Now hold on a minute.. You said yourself that God blessed the Sabbath... You agreed with the scripture in Genesis... Are you suggesting that He blessed it in anticipation of a future Israel? That Adam totally ignored the Sabbath because he wasn't Jewish? So where did the Sabbath go from creation, when Jesus, (yes, as Creator He was the one who blessed the 7th day, establishing the week as we follow 6000 years later, thus it truly is the Lord's Day... Not Sunday) established it, and the time of the exodus where I no doubt you will claim it first came to light?
My, that is even bigger than the ones Stalin and Hitler denied they did....And neither does the Church declare Traditions that "overrule" God's Commandments - nor does she threaten to kill people who don't follow Sacred Tradition.
Try to stay honest here . . .
Sooooo, commemorating the Day of Rest on Saturn's Day - the god of wealth and agriculture, is better than Sunday??
The Church merely declared the FULFILLMENT of the Sabbath - which Christ stated emphatically that HE was Lord over (Matt. 12:8). There was no "overruling" of ANYTHING.
That's a huge assumption (bolded above). Let ask you a question.He is our true rest, and I know you don't believe that, but He is God's rest.
Yes, that was how I meant it. ...but, in order to show the temporal, or lack of intrinsic righteousness about it. in other words, I don't see it, therefore, as a universal mandate similar to 'thou shall not murder', or ''thou shall not steal'. Which are inherently wrong, under any circumstances, eras, or dimensions.
Ummm did I say God was tired? How about a third option? Do you think that God might have known that mankind would need a day to rest because he would tend to overwork and become ineffective in ministry and in the more important aspects of life like justice and mercy? Yes, God made that one day out of seven holy. Just that day. He blessed it did he not. Is there any record of Him removing that blessing? Transferring that blessing to smother day? Declaring we don't need to rest physically any more? That He would bless whatever day we choose? That be testing on another day we make it holy? Please, share all the scriptures that cancel, negate, alter or transfer the blessing of Sabbath keeping elsewhere
It is obvious my friend that English is your second language... Because those are the very points I was making. God blessed the seventh day and made it holy. And man takes upon it by mixing the holy day with profane activity...ie work. And yes.... There is no evidence anywhere in scripture that any of that blessing had been removed. So we are in agreement my friend... Relax.You are speculating, Brakelite, put the brakes on your speculating! Everybody here except you it seems, knows there are no <<scriptures that cancel, negate, alter or transfer the blessing of Sabbath>> or <<remove the blessing>> which GOD spoke upon it. And everybody here except you it seems, knows that God did not bless <<Sabbath keeping>> but "the DAY the Seventh Day" as it is written.
Yes, all of this "Catholic paganism” nonsense was started by a 19th century anti-Catholic con man named Alexander Hislop.My, that is even bigger than the ones Stalin and Hitler denied they did....
https://www.history.com/topics/religion/inquisition
History shows the truth of the matter...
And those who look can easily find the origins of the corruption from within...The Sunburst Image, the Queen of Heaven and Baal.
Another desperate non-answer . . .He's got the whole world in his hand...
TRANSLATION:Intelligence oozing
Show me where anyone kept the Sabbath before it was given to Israel as a sign of their covenant. You can't do anything but assume. Don't put a day of the week on a pedestal higher than trusting in Jesus. He is our true rest, and I know you don't believe that, but He is God's rest.
It is obvious my friend that English is your second language... Because those are the very points I was making. God blessed the seventh day and made it holy. And man takes upon it by mixing the holy day with profane activity...ie work. And yes.... There is no evidence anywhere in scripture that any of that blessing had been removed. So we are in agreement my friend... Relax.