Thank you...but ..Oh dear I quoted your post, by my quotes got left out.
The quote being:-
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< Amen, well said. But those who don't want to hear it just wont hear it.
They would rather labour under the weight of works. >
The words I would underline there...is the word LABOUR and WEIGHT.
"I said some would rather labour under the weight of works.."
If what we do for God is not out of a loving heart, a reflection of His heart , as I read scripture it then become "our works" , as not sone "by the Spirit" therefore dead-work. That is what I read Pauls saying.
That is why I kicked back when you kept writing "we must", we must...
His is the life that touches other when we do any act of kindness... He is the only one who can draw them to Him...
That is what I meant when I said it is not about us, it is all about Him...therefore anything that we DO, must be by the Holy Spirit. THEN it will bring forth fruit.
Not saying that my husband and I didn't spend years in outreach, and going around the Bars and Clubs talking the Good news...because we were told that "we must"...we did it in our own strength, not in His..
Then, we had the revelation of just listening to the Lord to hear things like..."take groceries to number 37 in such and such street."
Or "send $...... to whatshisname .."
I husband once heard from the Lord to send a roll of sealing tape to a missionary .. It seemed a very stupid thing to "hear" from the Lord!!
We did so and heard back how this man had prayed for someone to send him some ( he always gave away any money that he himself had) How that increased that man's faith that God hears specific prayer requests. It was GOD sending to him..not us, and he knew it!
Good work BY HEARING is so much different to your "you must, you must"
Only then by hearing we began to see 'God in action' and lives changed.
Our earlier years of doing what we were told every christian "must do" were fruitless.
But, we all must do that which we each feel called to do.
I never saw a loving heart towards christiang This is my only point. were called to love and to forgive many many times. Do unto others as you would have done unto you. Do you want and would you except someone telling you you are wrong?
We are not supposed to kick back. We are called to love and you must love. You must you must you must love. Thats really what you are ment to do.
He touches lives through us. to believer or unbeliever to mist guided believer as you think christiang is.
So the love you have shown others outside the forum mustbe the same in here. We dont change. I understand the We must do something and He has already done everything. But We are called to forgive for ever and ever. And no turning back.
We are well warned. If we dont forgive, He wont forgive us. That is very strong words from Christ.
Nothing in Christs name is fruitless. Not one word will return void to Him.
Its not hard to see where christiang is coming from. Maybe if you said to him in your first post . He might have excepted your post better.
All we need to ask befor posting. Is this.
Will what I post today bring as the bible says Life or death. Because you have the power of life and death in your tounge.
The tounges in here are running wild. But if Christ was really sitting visibly beside us. We would not post an awfull lot of what we are typing, I think