Eve's Posterity

[Webers_Home]

.
● Gen 3:15 . . I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between
your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel.

It's pretty much agreed by most Christians that Eve's predicted offspring
was realized in Christ.

● Gal 4:4 . .When the time had fully come, God sent His son, born of a
woman. (cf. Heb 2:14)

● John 12:31-32 . . Now is the time for judgment on this world; now the
prince of this world will be driven out. But I, when I am lifted up from the
earth, will draw all men to myself.

Who are the Serpent's offspring?

Well, as much as is known; spirit beings don't reproduce. So the Serpent's
progeny probably shouldn't be thought of as literal. I suppose there are a
number of ways to spiritualize this; but Judas Iscariot is certainly a likely
candidate. (Luke 22:1-6, John 13:21-30, John 17:12) and no doubt the
Lord's religious opponents. (John 8:44)

NOTE: There's quite a bit of debate as to whether Jesus Christ was actually
his mothers biological offspring; thus biologically related to Eve; which would
make Jesus biologically related to Adam seeing as how Eve got her body
from Adam's body

● Acts 13:22-23 . . "I have found David the son of Jesse, a man after mine
own heart, which shall fulfill all my will." Of this man's seed hath God,
according to His promise, raised unto Israel a savior, Jesus.

● Rom 1:1-3 . . Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David
according to the flesh

The koiné Greek word for "seed" in those two passages is sperma (sper'
mah) which can refer to spiritual progeny as well as to biological progeny;
for example:

● Gal 3:29 . . If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed, and
heirs according to the promise.

That seed is obviously spiritual progeny. But the seed in Rom 1:1-3 is
biological progeny because David's seed is "according to the flesh" in other
words; his literal genetic material.

So then; unless somebody can prove-- clearly, conclusively, and without
ambiguity; air tight and iron clad --that Jesus Christ wasn't biologically
related to David; then it's a foregone conclusion that Adam was the first in
Jesus Christ's biological genealogy.
_

 

[Webers_Home]

.
I encounter Christians from time to time that sincerely believe Joseph was
Jesus' stepfather.

However; in order for Mary's baby to qualify for a legitimate place in
Joseph's genealogy as per Matthew 1:1-17, he had to adopt the lad because
stepchildren do not have inheritance rights.

I've also encountered Christians who sincerely believe that the baby Jesus
was an implant; i.e his mom was a surrogate mother instead of a real
mother. But Jesus was conceived rather than implanted. (Luke 1:31)

The Greek word for Jesus conception is the very same Greek word for his
cousin John's conception. (Luke 1:24, Luke 1:36)
_

 

[Webers_Home]

.
● Gen 3:15 . . I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between
your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel

Q: Where does Adam fit in that picture?

A: The key element in understanding Jesus Christ's human origin is first
understanding Eve's human origin.

Her female reproductive system was made from Adam's body. Thus any
child that is biologically related to Eve's reproductive system is biologically
related to Adam's body-- whether natural-born or virgin-born makes not the
slightest difference.
_

 

[Webers_Home]

.
● Gen 3:7 . .Then the eyes of both of them were opened and they perceived
that they were naked; and they sewed together fig leaves and made
themselves loincloths.

For convenience sake; let's attribute Eve's new perception to the so-called
fallen nature. The big question is: From where did she get it?

In the past, I was sure that the chemistry of the forbidden fruit had
something to do with Eve's altered state of mind; but now I seriously doubt
it because when Eve tasted the forbidden fruit, nothing happened. She
remained shameless and went about in the buff as usual. It wasn't till Adam
tasted the fruit that something altered Eve's conscience; so I'm pretty sure
that the underlying cause is far more serious than the chemistry of that fruit.

It's believed by a pretty large percentage of Christians that the fallen nature
is inherited from one's parents; specifically one's biological father. But Eve
was already in existence before Adam tasted the fruit; so he could not, nor
did he, pass it on to her biologically by means of procreation.

We're left with two alternatives: either God did it to her or the Serpent did it.

My money is on the Serpent, a.k.a. the Devil (Rev 20:2)

He has the power of death (Heb 2:14) and is able to tamper with the human
body and the human mind, e.g. Luke 13:16, Mark 5:1-5, and Eph 2:2.

"Surely I was sinful at birth; sinful from the time my mother conceived me.
(Ps 51:5)

David's statement tells me that the Devil is able to tamper with zygotes in
such a way that people come into existence with the sinful nature right from
the gun. To my knowledge the Devil can't be everywhere at once, and
seeing as how thousands of people are conceived every minute all over the
world, then it's a pretty sure bet that he has at his disposal legions of
invisible helpers to assist him in bringing sinful babies to life.

"The Spirit of the Lord God is upon me; because the Lord hath anointed me
to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them
that are bound" (Isa 61:1)

Who are the captives? What prison? Who are the bound? The entire planet
and everybody on it.

"We know that we are children of God, and that the whole world is under the
control of the evil one." (1John 5:19)

According to Eph 2:4, everybody, Christians included, have been victims of
the power of death. The Serpent was apparently all set and ready to wield it
the moment that Adam crossed the line and ate that fruit. It amazes me
how quickly that power worked on Adam and Eve. As soon as he tasted the
fruit, they immediately set to work clothing their naked bodies.
_

 

[Webers_Home]

.
Back in the Old Testament, a curse was leveled upon a really bad king in
Solomon's royal line to David's throne that reads like this:

● Jer 22:29-30 . . O land, land, land, hear the word of the Lord! Thus said
the Lord: Record this man as without succession, one who shall never be
found acceptable; for no man of his offspring shall be accepted to sit on the
throne of David and to rule again in Judah.

The bad king's name was Jeconiah (a.k.a. Jehoiakim and/or Coniah). Joseph
was one of his descendants. (Matt 1:11)

It's commonly believed that the curse extended to Joseph, so that had he
been Jesus' biological father, it would have prevented Christ from ascending
David's throne.

However, adopted children inherit from their fathers the same as biological
children; so had the curse extended to Joseph, it would have extended to
Jesus too whether he was virgin-conceived or not. In other words: seeing as
how Jesus got into Solomon's royal line by adoption, then of course he
would've got into the curse too because the throne and the curse would've
been a package deal.

But the wording "to rule again in Judah" indicates that the curse on
Jeconiah's royal progeny was limited to the time of his family's jurisdiction in
Judah. So it was in effect only during the days of the divided kingdom with
Judah in the south and Samaria in the north. That condition came to an end
when Nebuchadnezzar crushed the whole country and led first Samaria, and
then later Judah, off to Babylonian slavery.

When Messiah reigns, the country of Israel will be unified. His jurisdiction
won't be limited to Judah within a divided kingdom, but will dominate all the
land of Israel. So the curse doesn't apply to him.

● Ezek 37:21-22 . .You shall declare to them: Thus said the Lord God: I am
going to take the Israelite people from among the nations they have gone
to, and gather them from every quarter, and bring them to their own land. I
will make them a single nation in the land, on the hills of Israel, and one
king shall be king of them all. Never again shall they be two nations, and
never again shall they be divided into two kingdoms.
_