Is there something preventing God from generating a physical history after Adam and Eve's original sin ..all the way back to the Big Bang?
Evolution doesn't matter anymore.
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I'm saying it isn't necessary to ignore their "evidence" anymore. We are fine with God creating everything ..but somehow never consider He can generate history also.
God has control of all possible paths of causality. Quantum waves are future possibilities of something becoming real. God could easily handle history.
Evolution of Homo Sapiens is only generated history. It ensures the morality test we are in is intact. Original sin caused retrocausality of physical history.
God has control of all possible paths of causality. Quantum waves are future possibilities of something becoming real. God could easily handle history.
Evolution of Homo Sapiens is only generated history. It ensures the morality test we are in is intact. Original sin caused retrocausality of physical history.
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Causality - the mechanism by which one event happens as a direct result of another happening.
Question - Why does an omniscient omnipotent God require causality? Surely God can just make something so as per his divine will?
An apple does not need to fall to the ground because of the existence of gravity. God could simply will the apple to move thusly.
Why then does causality exist or rather why do you believe it exists?
Is anything in this universe free to move or happen without that God wills it and makes it so?
Decoherence causes physicality. Decoherence is disorder of Coherence. God's Kingdom is Coherent.
Our heavenly bodies will be more than physical. We will be coherent matter waves. We will not be physically unique ..we will not be able to be about ourselves ..we won't be able to sin.
Adam and Eve became connected to this fallen reality at original sin ..fallen physical history caught up to Adam and Eve eating the apple.
Eating the apple is decoherence ..just like the double slit experiment shows us.
A wave collapsing on a final panel didn't have physical history until it became decoherent.
Our heavenly bodies will be more than physical. We will be coherent matter waves. We will not be physically unique ..we will not be able to be about ourselves ..we won't be able to sin.
Adam and Eve became connected to this fallen reality at original sin ..fallen physical history caught up to Adam and Eve eating the apple.
Eating the apple is decoherence ..just like the double slit experiment shows us.
A wave collapsing on a final panel didn't have physical history until it became decoherent.
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So is free will separate from causality?
Are you suggesting there is no underlying cause to our will?
Why do birds choose to take to the air instead of simply walking on the ground?
God allows things to happen, He knows the outcome. Free Will is free choice. Stop trying to vilify me.
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If an atom never decohered, would it have a physical history? Did Adam and Eve become decoherent when eating the apple? Was a history written retroactively in this fallen reality? Would it include evolution?
Radioactive particles used in the double slit will not decay in flight. There won't be multiple registers on the final panel. That means matter waves do not age. Physical history is for Decoherent Locality.
Age is the history of being local, decoherent, physical, and fallen.
An age to being real to this fallen condition.
Radioactive particles used in the double slit will not decay in flight. There won't be multiple registers on the final panel. That means matter waves do not age. Physical history is for Decoherent Locality.
Age is the history of being local, decoherent, physical, and fallen.
An age to being real to this fallen condition.
Adam did not have a physical history of this fallen place until after he sinned. That physical history is in the past. That physical history didn't have to actually happen.
There can be a Big Bang and Evolution ..in a past history that didn't actually happen. This answers how Earth was started 7,000 years ago.
The Earth wasn't fallen to humans until original sin. That means it didn't have physical history until that point. Then it had a history ..one that didn't actually happen.
Satan was a high ranking Angel. He became prideful and thought he could be greater than God. He caused the disorder that started decoherence. This place is run by him because he started this mess.
Original sin was the start of what we consider normal time.
If you want Man created without evolution ..this is how it is done.
You need physical history to be able to claim objects and actions as your own ..to be able to sin.
There can be a Big Bang and Evolution ..in a past history that didn't actually happen. This answers how Earth was started 7,000 years ago.
The Earth wasn't fallen to humans until original sin. That means it didn't have physical history until that point. Then it had a history ..one that didn't actually happen.
Satan was a high ranking Angel. He became prideful and thought he could be greater than God. He caused the disorder that started decoherence. This place is run by him because he started this mess.
Original sin was the start of what we consider normal time.
If you want Man created without evolution ..this is how it is done.
You need physical history to be able to claim objects and actions as your own ..to be able to sin.
I have a wave-diode theory that accurately describes matter as a giant computer-like system that communicates via reverse amperage forces. You might be interested in it: Wave-Diode Unified Theory Finished
God then can command the Universe like a spirit within the computer!
We are in the opposite of a simulation. Heaven on the other hand...
What allows sin to happen? It will be qualities of this fallen reality.
Sin won't be possible in Heaven, that means it isn't going to be like what we experience right now. Satan had a claim on everyone here until Jesus. He had that claim because he runs this place. He stared the disorder in God's Kingdom that made sins possible.
What allows sin to happen? It will be qualities of this fallen reality.
- physical history
- physical uniqueness
- decoherence
- locality, your own time
- atomic bonds
- possible to kill
- self pleasure
- disorder, entropy, heat
- animal instincts
- scalar volumes
- knowledge of evil ..being able to tell the difference between good and evil
Sin won't be possible in Heaven, that means it isn't going to be like what we experience right now. Satan had a claim on everyone here until Jesus. He had that claim because he runs this place. He stared the disorder in God's Kingdom that made sins possible.
Waves do not have a history until they are collapsed. Original Sin is the first collapse.
Radioactive particles used in the double slit will not decay in flight. There won't be multiple registers on the final panel. That means matter waves do not age. Physical history is for Decoherent Locality ..wave collapse ..this fallen condition. History was assigned to Adam and Eve that didn't actually happen to them.
To be one with God we need to be matter waves.
Jesus was "made to be sin" to die for our sins. This place IS sin.
This fallen place allows sin. You need wave collapse and history to do that.
Do you want the history of Adam being in the Garden injected into Wave collapse? Well, that's not how it works. We get evolution instead.
Radioactive particles used in the double slit will not decay in flight. There won't be multiple registers on the final panel. That means matter waves do not age. Physical history is for Decoherent Locality ..wave collapse ..this fallen condition. History was assigned to Adam and Eve that didn't actually happen to them.
To be one with God we need to be matter waves.
Jesus was "made to be sin" to die for our sins. This place IS sin.
This fallen place allows sin. You need wave collapse and history to do that.
Do you want the history of Adam being in the Garden injected into Wave collapse? Well, that's not how it works. We get evolution instead.
Original Sin caused us to join the present state ..the now. Fallen angels were already here. Satan started it. But I don't think there was a physical history until humans joined. Time here is a slideshow of present states. An infinite sum of waves collapsing each frame.
Time Dilation and Gravity is the amount of wave collapse in a scalar volume per frame.
Time Dilation and Gravity is the amount of wave collapse in a scalar volume per frame.
God is in command now, that's what the bible teaches, but wickedness will grow in the last days. But God is still in command.
I knew a man who taught evolution in college. One day he realized he was brainwashed. Then he got saved!
Is there gravity in Heaven? Is this why Jesus ascended into Heaven?
If there isn't wave collapse, is there hot and cold?
A constant state of decoherence causes age.
Gravity is from the amount of atoms that need to remain wave collapsed per volume.
Time and Gravity are linked because they both are fundamental to this fallen condition.
If there isn't wave collapse, is there hot and cold?
A constant state of decoherence causes age.
Gravity is from the amount of atoms that need to remain wave collapsed per volume.
Time and Gravity are linked because they both are fundamental to this fallen condition.
I believe Gravity was created by the Fall because of this verse...
Genesis 3:19
"In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return."
Something happened that made life way more difficult. The more Gravity there is, the more difficult it is to do any kind of work.
Maybe not. Notice that after the Fall, we are introduced for the first time to the concept of 'cool'...
Genesis 3:8
"And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden."
Interestingly, the only other instance of the word 'cool' in the KJV is here...
Luke 16:24
"And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame."
It is as if Adam and Eve were in Torments, while the LORD was in the 'cool of the day'.
Juxtaposition.
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