101G
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101G said: ↑
"but did you not say that it was the FATHER who took on that added NATURE, so it is the Father in that flesh yes or no?".
justbyfaith said: yes.
well if that's the case it's the same person.
G5207, huio. primarily signifies the relation of offspring to parent (See John 9:18-John 9:20; Gal 4:30. It is often used metaphorically of prominent moral characteristics (See below). It is used in the NT of (a) male offspring, Gal 4:30; (b) legitimate, as opposed to illegitimate offspring, Heb 12:8; (c) descendants, without reference to sex, Rom 9:27; (d) friends attending a wedding, Matt 9:15; (e) those who enjoy certain privileges, Acts 3:25; (f) those who act in a certain way, whether evil, Matt 23:31, or good, Gal 3:7; (g) those who manifest a certain character, whether evil, Acts 13:10; Eph 2:2, or good, Luke 6:35; Acts 4:36; Rom 8:14; (h) the destiny that corresponds with the character, whether evil, Matt 23:15; John 17:12; 2Thess 2:3, or good, Luke 20:36; (i) the dignity of the relationship with God whereinto men are brought by the Holy Spirit when they believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, Rom 8:19; Gal 3:26. ...
so the term "Son" has nothing to do with GENDER, but with "character". listen, Hebrews 1:3 "Who being the brightness of [his] glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high".
see it now? ... "his person"so the "PERSON" IN THAT FLESH IS THE SAME "PERSON" YOU CALL THE FATHER. see it now? not some separate "person", but the same "person" shared.
hope God open your eyes.
PICJAG.
"but did you not say that it was the FATHER who took on that added NATURE, so it is the Father in that flesh yes or no?".
justbyfaith said: yes.
well if that's the case it's the same person.
ERROR on your part. The Lord Jesus is "ETERNAL" no begining, nor any end. he is before his flesh, (correct), but he could not have "come into being". and as for his person, (as said he is the Father), God the Father "expressed" himself in flesh is the reason why he is called "Son". because the term "Son" has nothing to do with Gender or the sex. understand the title "Son". it's the Greek word,There was a Person who came into being through the hypostatic union. The human aspect of Jesus didn't exist until the incarnation. The Person of the Son is both human and divine. The Son, as He exists in a human body, came into being when the Spirit of God became one with the egg in the womb of the virgin Mary. It is not that God came into being, but that His human aspect, which affects person and personality, came into being at the moment of incarnation.
G5207, huio. primarily signifies the relation of offspring to parent (See John 9:18-John 9:20; Gal 4:30. It is often used metaphorically of prominent moral characteristics (See below). It is used in the NT of (a) male offspring, Gal 4:30; (b) legitimate, as opposed to illegitimate offspring, Heb 12:8; (c) descendants, without reference to sex, Rom 9:27; (d) friends attending a wedding, Matt 9:15; (e) those who enjoy certain privileges, Acts 3:25; (f) those who act in a certain way, whether evil, Matt 23:31, or good, Gal 3:7; (g) those who manifest a certain character, whether evil, Acts 13:10; Eph 2:2, or good, Luke 6:35; Acts 4:36; Rom 8:14; (h) the destiny that corresponds with the character, whether evil, Matt 23:15; John 17:12; 2Thess 2:3, or good, Luke 20:36; (i) the dignity of the relationship with God whereinto men are brought by the Holy Spirit when they believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, Rom 8:19; Gal 3:26. ...
so the term "Son" has nothing to do with GENDER, but with "character". listen, Hebrews 1:3 "Who being the brightness of [his] glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high".
see it now? ... "his person"so the "PERSON" IN THAT FLESH IS THE SAME "PERSON" YOU CALL THE FATHER. see it now? not some separate "person", but the same "person" shared.
hope God open your eyes.
PICJAG.