Joh 1:13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
also one doesn't acknowledge what they don't know, such as atheists and those who don't know the living God but may have heard of God. and they don't know or acknowledge because they never have experienced or its never been revealed to them personally. and no one makes God reveal Himself or make Himself known to some one.
and one should understand those that do not have the Light revealed to them remain in the darkness they were born into. which is the case with all men Jews and gentile, unless the Lord do otherwise.
men can hear the truth until the cows come home, and they will still be in the dark, unless the Lord God reveal the Truth of Himself to them which is God's choice to do. many are called, few are chosen. no one invites themselves into heaven.
you many be able to chose apples and oranges but in the case of the Lord God, He choses, its His creation to do so. He chose the Israelites for a certain purpose. mainly to bring Christ into the world of which He did, but the Lord God isn't stupid He knows man's nature and what to expect of it, and you can bet He didn't expect Jesus to be received since it was Jesus' mission to die on the cross in the first place.
paul explains further:
Rom 9:1 I say the truth in Christ, I lie not, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Ghost,
Rom 9:2 That I have great heaviness and continual sorrow in my heart.
Rom 9:3 For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh:
Rom 9:4 Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises;
Rom 9:5 Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.
Rom 9:6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:
Rom 9:7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
Rom 9:8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.
Rom 9:9 For this is the word of promise, At this time will I come, and Sara shall have a son.
Rom 9:10 And not only this; but when Rebecca also had conceived by one, even by our father Isaac;
Rom 9:11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth
Rom 9:12 It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger.
Rom 9:13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
Rom 9:14 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.
Rom 9:15 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.
Rom 9:16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.
Rom 9:17 For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.
Rom 9:18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.
Rom 9:19 Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?
Rom 9:20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
Rom 9:21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
Rom 9:22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
Rom 9:23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,
Rom 9:24 Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?
and what of Israel why only Israel experiences the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob in those days? Abraham walked with God why not anyone else out of the millions of people in those days?
also the circumstances to be in need of deliverance isn't a choice, its only the deliverer's choice to deliver some one or not.
also this is not about Calvinist theology, that's something else. you want to debate Calvinism start another thread.
John 1:13 doesn’t mean what Calvinists interpret it as saying.
Good thing, since the scriptures I posted so clearly prove that the elect nation of Israel resisted the Holy Spirit and rejected their very own savior sent to them, completely falsifying Calvinism, and it would be a serious contradiction if your interpretation of verse 13 was accurate.
The proof text you’re using, doesn’t say God selects which individuals are saved, it means that the plan of salvation is Gods will, not mans will. We didn’t decide for God to send Jesus as our savior - God did.
A# to your Romans 9 proof texts, that passage is the best example of wrong interpretation of a text that exists.
Here is refutation of the Calvinist claims about the potter and the clay, and about vessels of wrath fitted for destruction:
Jeremiah 18 is the potter and clay chapter, which is actually the scriptures that Paul is referring to in Romans 9.
It refutes the Calvinist Romans 9 narrative, completely.
The potter and clay, and Jacob and Esau, is about NATIONS not individuals - and Israel is the nation on the potters wheel, as will be proven.
As Rebecca was told in Genesis 25:23 concerning her pregnancy:
two nations are in your womb (Edom came from Esau, and Israel came from Jacob)
The nation of Edom would serve the nation of Israel.
And Israel, the nation from Jacob is the clay on the potters wheel, not any person..
The Potter and the Clay.
Jer 18:1 The word which came to Jeremiah from the LORD, saying,
Jer 18:2 Arise, and go down to the potter's house, and there I will cause thee to hear my words.
Jer 18:3 Then I went down to the potter's house, and, behold, he wrought a work on the wheels.
Jer 18:4 And the vessel that he made of clay was marred in the hand of the potter: so he made it again another vessel, as seemed good to the potter to make it.
Jer 18:5 Then the word of the LORD came to me, saying,
Jer 18:6 O house of ISRAEL , cannot I do with you as this potter? saith the LORD. Behold, as the clay is in the potter's hand, so are ye in mine hand, O house of Israel.
We also find in Jeremiah 18 that when the potter speaks blessing over any NATION and they turn evil, God takes back his blessing and punishes that nation, and also when the potter considers a nation a vessel fit for destruction and they repent,
He changes His mind about punishing them.
No nation is predestined to destruction, nor are any individual persons - Romans 9 has nothing to do with predestination of Esau to hell and Jacob to salvation at all, thus no individuals are predestined to destruction in that passage.
Jer 18:7 At what instant I shall speak concerning a NATION, and concerning a kingdom, to pluck up, and to pull down, and to DESTROY it;
Jer 18:8 If that NATION, against whom I have pronounced, turn from their evil, I will REPENT of the evil that I thought to do unto them.
Jer 18:9 And at what instant I shall speak concerning a NATION, and concerning a kingdom, to build and to plant it;
Jer 18:10 If it do EVIL in my sight, that it obey not my voice, then I will REPENT of the good, wherewith I said I would benefit them.
This is the opposite of the reformed doctrine predestination narrative. The fate of the nations is dependent on what they do, not on being predestined to be vessels of wrath, fitted for destruction, and the Romans 9 potter and clay passage is not about predestination of individuals to hell, or to salvation.
God will have mercy on whom He will - and His will is He has mercy whenever there is repentance, and takes back His mercy, if they turn to doing evil.
That God changes His mind based on what a nation does (repentance) or doesn’t do right (turns to evil) absolutely wrecks reformed dogma regarding God being immutable and arbitrary predestination of individuals to hell or to heaven.
Yes, Jeremiah 18 blows up Calvinist proof texting of predestination and election of Jacob and Esau, or any individual persons to heaven or hell in Romans 9.