pick one fundamental belief that cannot be removed from Christianity without losing meaning of the religion.
Me: Trinity - the nature of God
Me: Trinity - the nature of God
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pick one fundamental belief that cannot be removed from Christianity without losing meaning of the religion.
Me: Trinity - the nature of God
That cannot be removed? I'm sure there are plenty, but I can name one belief some consider to be 'fundamental' to Christianity that in fact can be removed, and that is God's love being unconditional. Unconditional love doesn't require faith to be saved, so I can remove any such notions and it will have no effect on any other belief Christians may consider 'fundamental'.
Oh, if that is what the OP was discussing...then I misunderstood it, which makes my post is obsolete...
Well, I wouldn't say it makes your post obsolete. He asked if there was any belief that can't be removed, and your post concerning God's love reminded me. Unconditional love just does not fit at all with everything God has done, is doing and will do. If unconditional love is true, then even non-believers can be saved by the Resurrection, making the gospel null and void.
Wow, do you ever have the wrong idea about God!Well, I wouldn't say it makes your post obsolete. He asked if there was any belief that can't be removed, and your post concerning God's love reminded me. Unconditional love just does not fit at all with everything God has done, is doing and will do. If unconditional love is true, then even non-believers can be saved by the Resurrection, making the gospel null and void.
"It is written."pick one fundamental belief that cannot be removed from Christianity without losing meaning of the religion.
Me: Trinity - the nature of God
Wow, do you ever have the wrong idea about God!
He wrote the book on everything, and then finished it before it became public. Which (since it is you who made the comment) leaves you on a page near the end, having read His purposefully riddled first chapters, not knowing the finale...and you think you have caught Him being imperfect?
You obviously don't even know that it's finished!
Just as I said... You presented the unconditional love of God as false or as irony...when you don't even have all the information, just part of your own little sliver of history - His story. Now that is irony..........................It amazes me how someone can speak in riddles even when they think they aren't.....or are you? What exactly are you on about anyway with this straw man clap trap? "I have it wrong", or "I don't understand the spiritual things of God" are the typical responses I get from people who can't refute my arguments. Where in the blue freaking hell did I ever say or even imply that "I caught him being imperfect"? What the hell does that even mean?
Just as I said... You presented the unconditional love of God as false or as irony...when you don't even have all the information, just part of your own little sliver of history - His story. Now that is irony.
(Psalms 5:3-6) "My voice shalt thou hear in the morning, O LORD; in the morning will I direct my prayer unto thee, and will look up. {4} For thou art not a God that hath pleasure in wickedness: neither shall evil dwell with thee. {5} The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity. {6} Thou shalt destroy them that speak leasing: the LORD will abhor the bloody and deceitful man."
(James 4:1-4) "From whence come wars and fightings among you? come they not hence, even of your lusts that war in your members? {2} Ye lust, and have not: ye kill, and desire to have, and cannot obtain: ye fight and war, yet ye have not, because ye ask not. {3} Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts. {4} Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God."
You are not making any sense.I have the word of God that speaks nothing of "unconditional love", its all the information I need as a believer. What you have is your own vain philosophy and deceit that has nothing to do with his word.
Yeah, "unconditional love" indeed.
You are not making any sense.
First you mock God and say that he does not have unconditional love. Then you badmouth me for calling you on it. And then you quote two passages that do not address your grumbling.
My comment to you is...if that is how you feel - you do not know God.
GINOLJC, is that PURE religion, or just religion? PURE Religion, G2356 θρησκεία threskeia (threes-kei'-a) n. ceremonial observance. James 1:27 "Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world". Pure religion is undefiled, and it's unspotted from the world.pick one fundamental belief that cannot be removed from Christianity without losing meaning of the religion.
Me: Trinity - the nature of God
No.........OK, simple question. Are there condition's set forth in the book you claim to believe in that you must adhere to in order to be saved? Its really a simple yes or no answer.
No. But thank you for eluding to your position and the basis for your gripe.Oh ok, so Jesus Christ died for nothing then, got it.......
What you are seeing is not the unfolding of what will be in real time, but what was before the foundation of the world now being manifest as a witness for the judgement: history is His story
No, I am not a pre...whatever.By your private interpretation, what the Bible calls prophecy is in fact NOT prophecy since its all already occurred. You make yourself out to be a preterist and don't even realize it........or are you one? And amongst the rest of the gibberish you wrote, none of it addresses the issue of faith being set as the condition for being saved, which means that Gods love is NOT unconditional, no matter how much you want it to be simply because its what you prefer.