God Doesn't Show Favortism and in Bibles is Shown "the disciple whom Jesus loved"

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Apr 24, 2012
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You may compare the translations below.

John 13:23

One of them, the disciple whom Jesus loved, was reclining next to him.

James 2:1

My brothers and sisters, believers in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ must not show favoritism.

Below a translation with the word served and not the word loved in John 13:23

John 13:23

One of them, the disciple whom Jesus served, was reclining next to him.
 

Groundzero

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People,

You may compare the translations below.

John 13:23

One of them, the disciple whom Jesus loved, was reclining next to him.

James 2:1

My brothers and sisters, believers in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ must not show favoritism.

Below a translation with the word served and not the word loved in John 13:23

John 13:23

One of them, the disciple whom Jesus served, was reclining next to him.

I'm not entirely clear what you are stating here, but I'm assuming you are saying it should read, "the disciple whom Jesus served" instead of "loved".

I don't think Jesus was showing favoritism. He merely had a closer relationship with that disciple than the others. That's not favoritism. Favoritism is like this: Jesus only chose fishermen because he didn't like tax collectors. (and that is not true at all. One of his disciples was a tax collector!).
 

Arnie Manitoba

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Just a quick note ..... here is what the first verse in the chapter says ....

(Jesus is talking to , and about his disciples)

It was just before the Passover Feast. Jesus knew that the time had come for him to leave this world and go to the Father. Having loved his own (disciples) who were in the world , he now showed them the full extent of his love.
 

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It's okay to have favorites; but what's not okay is inequity; which Webster's
defines as unfairness.

†. Rom 2:5-11 . . God will render to each one according to his deeds
--eternal life to those who by patient continuance in doing good seek for
glory, honor, and immortality; but to those who are self-seeking and do not
obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness -- indignation and wrath,
tribulation and anguish, on every soul of man who does evil, of the Jew first
and also of the Greek; but glory, honor, and peace to everyone who works
what is good, to the Jew first and also to the Greek. For there is no partiality
with God.

†. Col 3:25 . . But he that doeth wrong shall receive for the wrong which he
hath done: and there is no respect of persons.

†. 1Pet 1:17 . . And if ye call on the Father, who without respect of persons
judgeth according to every man's work, pass the time of your sojourning
here in fear:

I used to work with two men from Guam. One was the shop supervisor.
Well; one day the super called in the other guy to talk with him about his
performance and the other guy got angry because he figured that since they
were fellow Chamorro, the super should cut him some slack. Well; my
supervisor was a very fair man and instructed his countryman in no
uncertain terms that he expected no less from Chamorro than from non
Chamorro because it wouldn't be fair to the rest of us.

I've also seen it go the other way. In another shop I worked in, the young
foreman was an off-road motorcycle enthusiast and a snow skier. Well;
some of the welders were into those sports too and they'd meet with the
foreman on week-ends to pursue their common interest. They all became
really good beer-buddies and because of it; the foreman was quite a bit
more lenient with their job performance, and when lay-off times came
around, none of those guys were never let go.

Moral of the story is: people seeking special treatment are going to find out
that it does no good to buddy up to Christ because he's just as fair across
the board as his Father. No matter how much the Lord might like you; he's
not going let your association with him make a difference comes time to
evaluate your performance.

Note : the premise of this thread is exactly why it's essential to study the
Bible instead of just reading it. People who read the Bible instead of studying
it are like children allowed to play with a Rolex. In no time at all they'll break
a perfectly good timepiece and then complain that it stopped running all
because they're too immature to appreciate the workings of a fine watch.

Cliff
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Selene

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People,

You may compare the translations below.

John 13:23

One of them, the disciple whom Jesus loved, was reclining next to him.

James 2:1

My brothers and sisters, believers in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ must not show favoritism.

Below a translation with the word served and not the word loved in John 13:23

John 13:23

One of them, the disciple whom Jesus served, was reclining next to him.

Jesus does not serve any man. He served only God His Father and followed His Father's will....as all men should. The word in John 13:23 is "loved." This, however, does not mean that Christ did not love the other disciples. God has a right to choose. For example, among all the nations on Earth, He chose Israel to be His chosen people. This does not mean that He does not like the other nations. He loved all nations, but He had to choose a nation in which His Son would be come into in order to save all other nations (which are the Gentiles).
 
Apr 24, 2012
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G25
a̓γaπáω
agapaō
Thayer Definition:
1) of persons
1a) to welcome, to entertain, to be fond of, to love dearly
2) of things
2a) to be well pleased, to be contented at or with a thing
Part of Speech: verb
A Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: perhaps from agan (much) [or compare G5368]
Citing in TDNT: 1:21, 5

From that "to entertain" or a person may use the word serve.



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People,

Mark 10:45

For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many.
 

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The disciple whom Jesus loved. That is one of my favorite subjects. Did anyone ever notice that that discription only appears in the book of John. John had a revelation of Jesus' love for him. Jesus did not love John more than He loved the others, John just knew that he was loved. While John was more focused on Jesus' love for him, Peter was more focused on his own love for Jesus. John went on to have a huge revelation of Jesus--the book of revelation, while Peter went on to deny (with cursing) the one he claimed to love. I'm not saying it bad to love Jesus. But focusing on His love for you, is what causes you to love Him. The more you realize how much He loves you, the more you can't help but to fall in love with Him. Don't they teach you this stuff in church? what kind of church do you go to? :)

Think of it this way: a man found a gem in a field, he hid it, and went home to sell all that he had so that he could come back and purchase the field--not for the field, but for the gem. That's exactly what Jesus did, he gave up all that He had and with the blood He purchased us (man-kind) He will forevermore exist in a created body which He didn't have until He came back to purchase the field so that He could have us and treasure us forever. We are that valuable to Him and John saw this, and later Paul had revelation of that love, too.
 

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Rand, your observation and contrast of John and Peter in this specific dichotomy is very interesting.
Gave me a new way to look at things. Thanks.
 

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Perhaps John felt loved by Jesus - why does this have to be an issue of favoritism? I am sure John would agree that Jesus loves everyone.