God "spiritualizes" EVERYTHING.

[CoreIssue]

Then why did you quote scripture about being born of the spirit of God, saying the same thing I have been saying?

You quoted Jesus and it turns out your quote was inaccurate.

 

[CoreIssue]

I have never said that God is "a" spirit, but rather quoted the scriptures to say that "God is spirit." That's all.

So...false alarm...or perhaps I should say, false suspicion. You can chill.

Are you denying that God is a spirit?

 

[Windmillcharge]

No, that is wrong:

Luke 9:23
“If anyone desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow Me."

We need to be proactively in the spirit, setting our eyes on God, whom is spirit. Taking up ones' cross, means laying down the physical.

In context it mean following a way of behaviour that would lead to ones death.

For us today it can mean that, or it can mean loosing ones livelyhood because of ones Christian principals, or it can mean giving up something in order to serve God more.

 

[tzcho2]

Wow...10 pages of arguing about the spiritual nature of God...with disdain!

No one is denying God's nature, but some are noticing your paraphrase of scripture & beliefs seem unusual. Seems hard to understand like the meaning is garbaled, not straightforward as scripture usually is.

 

[ScottA]

Are trying to change subjects.

You failed to even quote the Bible correctly.

So then you are not confessing/agreeing that we must be born again/also of the spirit of God and that is the future, that the flesh profits nothing, and that is why you quoted John 3?

Because it sounded like you might be coming to your senses and seeing that all I am saying is what is already written. But then you finish with spite and criticism. You're a mess.

 

[ScottA]

You quoted Jesus and it turns out your quote was inaccurate.

It was a direct "quote." Take it up with the Author.

 

[ScottA]

Are you denying that God is a spirit?

I say again: "GOD IS SPIRIT."

 

[ScottA]

In context it mean following a way of behaviour that would lead to ones death.

For us today it can mean that, or it can mean loosing ones livelyhood because of ones Christian principals, or it can mean giving up something in order to serve God more.

I'm sorry...you have confused "the scriptures must be spiritually discerned" with "must be translated by men."

 

[ScottA]

No one is denying God's nature, but some are noticing your paraphrase of scripture & beliefs seem unusual. Seems hard to understand like the meaning is garbaled, not straightforward as scripture usually is.

I realize that your comment may be an attempt to be kind, and I thank you for that. But if scripture is "straightforward" rather than "confused" by God and "must be spiritually discerned"...then that is the problem. You are "leaning on your own understanding", and thus suffer the usual "dim" world view, rather than the "unusual" according to the fullness of the kingdom of God. Do not the scriptures foretell this same blindness? Indeed, they do.

 

[CoreIssue]

It was a direct "quote." Take it up with the Author.

I posted what the Bible actually says. You do not.

 

[CoreIssue]

I say again: "GOD IS SPIRIT."

Very revealing. You refuse to say God is a spirit.

There's a very big difference in meaning between something being spirit and something being a spirit.

Something done in the spirit of something is different than something being done by a spirit.

So when you say spirit of what do you mean? In this spirit of, reasoning of, intent of what?

 

[ScottA]

I posted what the Bible actually says. You do not.

No, you quoted you choice of translations. I quote mine, but have also paraphrased according to the Holy Spirit and the need for spiritual discernment. The truth from God is not debatable.

 

[ScottA]

This is my issue right here. The LORD God is not "a" spirit, the LORD God is the Holy Spirit.

Very revealing. You refuse to say God is a spirit.

There's a very big difference in meaning between something being spirit and something being a spirit.

Something done in the spirit of something is different than something being done by a spirit.

So when you say spirit of what do you mean? In this spirit of, reasoning of, intent of what?

You guys should talk semantics.

 

[CoreIssue]

No, you quoted you choice of translations. I quote mine, but have also paraphrased according to the Holy Spirit and the need for spiritual discernment. The truth from God is not debatable.

So which translation did you use? It was not the KJV.

 

[ScottA]

So which translation did you use? It was not the KJV.

NKJV perhaps, I use both.

 

[CoreIssue]

NKJV perhaps, I use both.

And neither say what you claimed was a quote.

 

[CoreIssue]

No, you quoted you choice of translations. I quote mine, but have also paraphrased according to the Holy Spirit and the need for spiritual discernment. The truth from God is not debatable.

So you admit it was not a quote.

I guess just like when you claim God is not a spirit.

 

[CoreIssue]

You guys should talk semantics.

To say something spirit is talking about it's composition. To do something in the spirit of involves such things as the spirit comparable, the spirit of justice.

You pointedly objected statement that God is a spirit in composition.

 

[ScottA]

And neither say what you claimed was a quote.

So you say.

 

[ScottA]

So you admit it was not a quote.

I guess just like when you claim God is not a spirit.

If it was a quote, it was a quote. If it was not a quote, it was not a quote.

You sure guess a lot.