God's Very Simple Will, Under HIS PURE GRACE!

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Precious friend(s), for your Prayerful And Careful consideration:

"But we had the sentence of death in ourselves, that we should not​
trust in ourselves, but in God Which raiseth the dead: Who Delivered​
us from so great a death, and Doth Deliver: in Whom we trust that He​
Will Yet Deliver us;" (2 Corinthians 1:9-10 AV) =​

The Three Tenses Of God's Eternal Salvation:

Is not the Solution to Confusion recognizing God's Differences Be-
tween "His Relationship With us," And "our fellowship with Him!"?

God's Will, Today, Under His Pure Grace? Very Simply:

► faith ◄
1) Past Tense = "...God Delivered us from so great a death...":

God Establishes His Eternal Relationship With those who
humbly repent (change mind that "sin is Wrong!") and:

believe, 100% trust, place Total faith, In:​

The Lord Jesus Christ, His Death ( Precious BLOOD ), Burial,​
And HIS Resurrection, According To The Scriptures!​

"Grace Through faith" In The Merits Of His ALL-Sufficient BLOOD Results:

All sins Forgiven, His Eternal Life, And, Peace With God!
(Ephesians 1:7; Colossians 2:13; Romans 6:23; Romans 5:1 AV)

This Is Eternal Deliverance From the Penalty of sin,
The So Great A [ Second ] Death! (Revelation 21:8 AV) =
Justification and Spiritual Sanctification
(2 Corinthians 1:10a cp Romans 3:24 AV)

{ More Biblical Confirmation is here: God's Eternal Assurance!
And Here:​

[ Please recognize The "New ↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑ Ownership!" ]:​

a) "ye are not your own" (1 Corinthians 6:19 AV), because of the:​
b) "Redemption Through His BLOOD!" ( Ephesians 1:7 cp:​
"Redemption Of The [ His ] Purchased possession!"​
c) All God's ( The New ↓ ↓ ↓ ↓ ↓ Owner's ) Eternally Saved Are:
"Purchased With His [ God's ] Own BLOOD!" (Acts 20:28 AV) }

1) ► faith ◄ God's Eternal Justification/Relationship Is First, And, Then:

►► love ◄◄
(2) Present Tense = "...God Doth Deliver us...":

All believers Should do "good works ( faith which worketh by love! )"
{ Which will Never Equal Christ's Payment For the above Penalty of sin! },
for Which we Are Created In Christ Jesus, to perform for Him, having
"been Called into fellowship With Him!" (Ephesians 2:10; 1 Corinthians 1:9 AV)
Amen?:

We "work out our own salvation" (Philippians 2:12 AV). This
Should Be a lifetime of Daily submission, and renewing,
being "not conformed to this world" (Romans 12:1-2 AV),
for Grace Deliverance From the Power of sin!}
(2 Corinthians 1:10b AV) = personal sanctification:

(2a) Christ Living In us, To Fulfil:

All Of His Law, In One Word: ►► love ◄◄ thy neighbor​
as thyself!" (Galatians 5:14; Romans 13:8-10 AV)​

(2b) His Spirit Guiding and Teaching us, How To:
"Study to shew thyself Approved Unto God, a​
workman that needeth not to be ashamed, Rightly​
Dividing The Word Of Truth!" (2 Timothy 2:15 AV)​

Eternal Results: reward [ or loss * ] (1 Corinthians 3:8-15 AV),
ruling and reigning [ or not * ] With Christ, Which Will Finally Be
At The Judgment Day!

* More helpful study: Finishing The Race

2) ►► love, our 'fellowship' With Him ◄◄ and, Finally:

►►► Blessed Hope ◄◄◄
(3) Future Tense = "...God Will Yet Deliver us":

Christ's Glorification of All "members" Of His Body!!
{This Is Eternal Deliverance From the Presence of sin!}
(1 Thessalonians 4:13-18; 1 Corinthians 15:51-57;
2 Corinthians 1:10c AV), At:


Hallelujah! Eternal Glorification With Him!!! Praise His Excellent Name!!
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Conclusion:

Big Differences Between the Three tenses Of God's Eternal Salvation,
And Between God's Relationship And our fellowship! Correct?
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Please Be Very Richly Encouraged, Enlightened, Exhorted, And Edified In
The Lord Jesus Christ, And In His Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided!

Grace And Peace! The apostle of Grace (2 Min With The Bible)

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FULL study:

Paul, The apostle Of Grace (Part I)
Paul, The apostle Of Grace (Part II)
 
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Precious friend(s). God's Will, Today, Under HIS PURE GRACE? Very Simply:

(1) believe, 100% trust, place Total faith, In The LORD JESUS CHRIST, HIS
Death {Precious BLOOD}, Burial, And HIS Resurrection, According To The
Scriptures! (
1 Corinthians 15:3-4; cp Ephesians 2:8-9; Romans 3-5 KJB!)

Results: All sins Forgiven, Eternal Life, And, Peace With God!

(2) Fulfil ALL Of His Law, In "ONE Word: LOVE thy neighbor as thyself!"
(
Galatians 5:14; Romans 13:8-10 KJB!)

(3) "Study" HIS Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided, to shew
thyself Approved Unto God!" (
2 Timothy 2:15 KJB!)

Eternal Results: reward, ruling, and reigning With CHRIST!


Precious friend(s): Please Be Very Richly Blessed!


Probably the most important law to obey is what Jesus stated at Mat 22:37-39, if you do you will basically be obeying the entire law covenant sir
 

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Probably the most important law to obey is what Jesus stated at Mat 22:37-39, if you do you will basically be obeying the entire law covenant sir
Thanks. Matthew is Addressed TO "the Jews Under The Covenant!"

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That Differ” (online)

The Most Important LAW "for The Body Of CHRIST,"
Under GRACE, (Romans - Philemon), Today, IS:

"Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works?
Nay: but by The Law Of faith!" (Romans 3 : 27 AV)

Be Blessed!
 
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Thanks. Matthew is Addressed TO "the Jews Under The Covenant!"

Rightly Divided (
2 Timothy 2 : 15 KJB!) From “Things That DIFFER!:

The Most Important LAW "for The Body Of CHRIST,"
Under GRACE, (Romans - Philemon), Today, IS:

"Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by
The Law Of faith!"
(Romans 3 : 27 KJB!)

Be Blessed!

I am not aware of those two laws stated by Jesus have been exempted by the new covenant sir. Yes Jesus was under law, but his teachings are the basis for the Christian faith, correct?
 

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I am not aware of those two laws stated by Jesus have been exempted by the new covenant sir. Yes Jesus was under law, but his teachings are the basis for the Christian faith, correct?
Precious friend, depends on Which Of "HIS Teachings" you are referring to:
Is it "His teachings" to ISRAEL's TWELVE apostles/tribes, on the earth, gospel
of the kingdom, Under the law? Prophecy? Or:

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15 KJB!) From “Things That DIFFER!:

"The Revelation Of HIS Mystery," From Heaven, The Gospel Of GRACE:
"HIS Teachings" To HIS ONE apostle Of GRACE, for The Body Of CHRIST?


More "study" is here:
God's Approval/TWO Gospels In Prophecy vs Mystery
"Distinctions" of Prophecy vs MYSTERY


 
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Precious friend, depends on Which Of "HIS Teachings" you are referring to:
Is it "His teachings" to ISRAEL's TWELVE apostles/tribes, on the earth, gospel
of the kingdom, Under the law? Prophecy? Or:

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15 KJB!) From “Things That DIFFER!:

"The Revelation Of HIS Mystery," From Heaven, The Gospel Of GRACE:
"HIS Teachings" To HIS ONE apostle Of GRACE, for The Body Of CHRIST?


More "study" is here:
God's Approval/TWO Gospels In Prophecy vs Mystery
"Distinctions" of Prophecy vs MYSTERY


Be Blessed!

Obviously some of his teachings was for those under law living at his time on earth, but I was referring to those that he gave for all those who would be part of, and under the new covenant, which was put into force on Pentecost of 33. Most of his teachings were meant for those of us under that covenant, that is why we are called Christians.
 

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Precious friend(s), Is not the Solution to Confusion recognizing
God's Differences Between "HIS Relationship With us," And
"our fellowship with HIM!"?
I am not quite sure what you mean by that. A good post overall though.
I'll approach it in different ways.
His actions are perfect and infinitely encompassing His purpose for all. Our fellowship and worship is not perfect. He wants us to live with perfection yet we fail. As many as there are Christians, He wants us to be of one mind, but we fail. We are to be obedient and we fail. I see a difference there. Hence sanctification is a process.

Okay, here's another angle. Isn't our relationship with Him the same as fellowship?
I think He has to deal with each individual differently. We are all different, our lives move in different directions that involve different experiences and so He orchestrates events, circumstances, lessons, punishments and people that come into our lives differently. But His ultimate purpose and His Word does not change; it is the path that each of us takes towards that final goal that differs.
We all certainly approach Him differently, try to please Him differently because we know in part, dimly and not yet in that glorified state.
 
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Precious friend(s), Is not the Solution to Confusion recognizing
God's Differences Between "HIS Relationship With us," And
"our fellowship with HIM!"?
I am not quite sure what you mean by that. A good post overall though.
I'll approach it in different ways...another angle. Isn't our relationship with Him the same as fellowship?
Precious friend, Ronald, Thanks So Much. Appreciate you kindly sharing your different approach. The Point was to say that the Difference between them Eliminates the confusion over God's FREE Gift Of ETERNAL Salvation, and whether or not IT is only temporary {"earned"} and can "be lost.":

(1) Making "ETERNAL = temporary" makes no sense, Correct, Ronald?

(2) God's Relationship With us, is "Stablished BY HIM" (Romans 16:25 AV), According to "The Merits Of The All-SUFFICIENT BLOOD" Of CHRIST, Resulting in the "new spiritual BIRTH {Father / children relationship}" Correct?

Thus, I do not believe THIS "ETERNAL Relationship" can Be BROKEN, and lost!

(3)
a) On the other hand, our "fellowship {getting along, walking/obeying HIM}," CAN, in fact "be BROKEN" by our disobedience, "grieving The Indwelling Spirit (Ephesians 4:30 AV), and, IF continued, Even "Quenching The Spirit" (1 Thessalonians 5:19 AV)

b) This would then Determine "the rewards {of loss thereof}" At The Judgment Seat Of CHRIST (1 Corinthians 3:7-15
AV), Correct, Ronald?

Conclusion: IF this is True, then the Two cannot be the same, Correct, Ronald?

IF they "are the same," THEN salvation "can BE LOST," but, that doctrine would then NULLIFY
A Vast Multitude Of God's Plain And Clear Scriptures!:

God's OPERATION On All HIS New-born babes In CHRIST!
God's Eternal Assurance


Please Be Richly Encouraged, Enlightened, Exhorted, And Edified!

Amen.
 
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Making "ETERNAL = temporary" makes no sense, Correct, Ronald?
Yes. He is Sovereign. He doesn't make mistakes. Giving a gift of LIFE, while knowing the future that we can or will somehow erase our blood cleansing and become dirty again, does not make sense.
2) God's Relationship With us, is "Stablished BY HIM" (Romans 16:25 KJB!), According to "The Merits Of The All-SUFFICIENT BLOOD" Of CHRIST, Resulting in the "new spiritual BIRTH {Father / children relationship}" Correct?
OSAS
Thus, I do not believe THIS "ETERNAL Relationship" can Be BROKEN, and lost!
Not do I.

Conclusion: IF this is True, then the Two cannot be the same, Correct, Ronald?

IF they "are the same," THEN salvation "can BE LOST," but, that doctrine would then NULLIFY A Vast Multitude Of God's Plain And Clear Scriptures!:
God's OPERATION On All HIS New-born babes In CHRIST!
God's Eternal Assurance
They cannot be the same, God is Holy and we are not quite there yet, spiritually but the spirit wars against the flesh still and vice versa. Once we get rid of our flesh, where sin dwells, then we will be home, glorified, like Him.
 
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Precious friend(s), Is not the Solution to Confusion recognizing
God's Differences Between "HIS Relationship With us," And
"our fellowship with HIM!"?

God's Will, Today, Under HIS PURE GRACE? Very Simply:

(1) God Establishes HIS Eternal Relationship With those who humbly:
believe, 100% trust, place Total faith, In The LORD JESUS CHRIST, HIS
Death {Precious BLOOD}, Burial, And HIS Resurrection, According To The
Scriptures! (
1 Corinthians 15:3-4; cp Ephesians 2:8-9; Romans 3-5 KJB!)

"GRACE Through faith" In The Merits Of HIS
Precious And ALL-Sufficient BLOOD Results:


All sins Forgiven, HIS Eternal Life, And, Peace With God!
{This Is Eternal DELIVERANCE From the PENALTY
of sin!}
Justification First, And, THEN:


(2) The believer SHOULD do "good works" {Which will NEVER
EQUAL CHRIST's TOTAL PAYMENT For the above PENALTY
of sin!},
for Which we Are Created In CHRIST JESUS, to perform for HIM,
having "been Called into fellowship With HIM!"
Amen?:

We "work out OUR OWN salvation" {This SHOULD Be a
lifetime of DELIVERANCE From the POWER of sin!}
Sanctification:

(2a) Fulfil ALL Of His Law, In "ONE Word: LOVE your neighbor
as yourself!" (
Galatians 5:14; Romans 13:8-10 KJB!)

(2b) Study HIS Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided, to show
yourself Approved Unto God! (
2 Timothy 2:15 KJB!)

Eternal Results:
reward {or loss} (1 Corinthians 3 : 8-15 KJB!),
ruling and reigning With CHRIST, Which Will FINALLY Be At
The Judgment Day:


(3) CHRIST's GLORIFICATION of All "members" Of HIS Body!!
{This Is Eternal DELIVERANCE From the PRESENCE
of sin!}
Amen?

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Conclusion:
BIG Differences Between God's Relationship And our fellowship!
Correct?

Precious friend(s): Please Be Very Richly Blessed!

Probably the most important law to obey is what Jesus stated at Mat 22:37-39, if you do you will basically be obeying the entire law covenant sir
 
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Eternal Results: reward {or loss} (1 Corinthians 3 : 8-15 KJB!),
ruling and reigning With CHRIST, Which Will FINALLY Be At
The Judgment Day:


(3) CHRIST's GLORIFICATION of All "members" Of HIS Body!!
{This Is Eternal DELIVERANCE From the PRESENCE
of sin!}
Amen?

Grace, it appears by the order of these two, you believe that glorification is after death and resurrection. No, that is NOW. Those who are born again have been cleansed of their past sins, and given the Holy Spirit to give us the fruit of the Spirit, and the power to commit no sins of lawlessness. The mature fruit prevents minor sins against each other in the future as we grow in love. And we MUST forgive each other these trespasses against one another for unity of fellowship. Once we forgive others, the Father forgives us. Therefore 1 John 1:7 is spelled out according to that teaching of forgiveness and love.

7 But if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin.

So as you see we are made sinless at justification, and every time we forgive others.

Glorification is during this lifetime of becoming like Christ. And He has given us the mind of Christ. Romans 8:29-30 shows us that Jesus was sinless and He was the first of MANY brethren. That means we become just like Him, and are able to perform all the miracles He did, and more. Note, sanctification is not in these verses because it and justification are at the same time.
 

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I am not quite sure what you mean by that. A good post overall though.
I'll approach it in different ways.
His actions are perfect and infinitely encompassing His purpose for all. Our fellowship and worship is not perfect. He wants us to live with perfection yet we fail. As many as there are Christians, He wants us to be of one mind, but we fail. We are to be obedient and we fail. I see a difference there. Hence sanctification is a process.

Okay, here's another angle. Isn't our relationship with Him the same as fellowship?
I think He has to deal with each individual differently. We are all different, our lives move in different directions that involve different experiences and so He orchestrates events, circumstances, lessons, punishments and people that come into our lives differently. But His ultimate purpose and His Word does not change; it is the path that each of us takes towards that final goal that differs.
We all certainly approach Him differently, try to please Him differently because we know in part, dimly and not yet in that glorified state.
I agree. It's not a one size fits all. We are individuals & as such his path for  us is directed by his Spirit accordingly.

"His actions are perfect and infinitely encompassing His purpose for all. Our fellowship and worship is not perfect. He wants us to live with perfection yet we fail. As many as there are Christians, He wants us to be of one mind, but we fail. We are to be obedient and we fail. I see a difference there. Hence sanctification is a process.
Isn't our relationship with Him the same as fellowship?" Ronald David Bruno
 

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"Thus, I do not believe THIS "ETERNAL Relationship" can Be BROKEN, and lost!"

YOU believe this........not every ones. However it does  not make either of the believing wrong !

"On the other hand, our "fellowship {getting along, walking/obeying HIM}," CAN, in fact "be BROKEN" by our disobedience, "grieving The Indwelling Spirit (Ephesians 4:30 KJB!), and, IF continued, Even "Quenching The Spirit" (1 Thessalonians 5:19 KJB!)"GRACE ambassador.

I disagree with this statement for if there is NO fellowship there is NO relationship!
 

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Salvation is the  free gift of God but it can always be rejected. This does NOT impune the gift nor the giver of such; but the receiver !
 

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