LOLYou must have the LUCK to repent of those little buggers before you die...
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LOLYou must have the LUCK to repent of those little buggers before you die...
As long as the Holy Spirit is in us we are in a state of being born again, anew, and from above. What must be renewed every day is the filling of the Holy Spirit. IOW, the manifest experience and felt presence of the Holy Spirit must be sought after and renewed daily.
But you DO know!.....I don’t even know where to start....
“As long as the Holy Spirit is in us ....” As if the Spirit comes and goes a dozen times a day....
My Bible says “I will NEVER leave you or forsake you” ....
I was most definitely mocking the new Progressive Hyper Grace theology, lol.
Keep up. We are not talking a sin, we are talking about lifestyle sins.In a word? Yes.....If they have the Holy Spirit in them....if they “ Have” that Spirit in them, the odds are VERY remote that they would continue in theses sins....sometimes it takes a long time for God to Transform a person....Sometimes God just might strike a person dead in their tracks, not wanting to see Himself and His Grace Mocked.....If a person has Turned to God with Faith in Jesus Christ, it is this Faith that determines his Salvation—- NOT his behavior .....despite how despicable it may be....for the Believer in the Gospel, it’s a hard pill for us to swallow , but God is not a liar—- “ HE” is the One that said “Where sin abounds, Grace Super abounds”, not me.....it’s not called “AMAZING” Grace for no reason.....
Moses,David and Paul were all murderers.....they will be in Heaven with all of the “ good” non- murderers.....how did they get there? Faith.
I say that only because the Bible says it....you want the scriptures?You say “ Obedience does not Save” yet then you turn around and say that without it ( being bad) you will,go to Hell......Don't you see how that makes no sense?
Heaven is for Believers.Hell is for Unbelievers.
The Bible says “ No One is “ Good”—- No, not ONE! Evil people can be Transformed.....all they have to do is Ask to be Saved....we ALL have an “ evil” or Sinful Nature residing in us that we inherited from Adam...we all have the capacity and the ability to be the best or the worst.....
No contradiction.You contradict yourself and you don’t even realize it....
not even your lies hurt me..
You are against yourself if you are evil.“ If God be for me ( and He is ) , Who can be against me ? “ Your pithy little cliche remark about the truth hurting? Sorry .....”that dog won’t hunt”
You think you are good at confusing and deception but you are not.You think Christianity “ IS” a Religion....That is your downfall....
Of course Paul warns of sin.....he’s also big on “ obedience” .....so am I! I just know by being a good student of God’s Word that it is not the thing that Saves.....Faith in Jesus-Plus Nothing Saves....
It’s the same old story .....just a little more verbose than usual ....In a Nutshell , all he is saying ( for the umpteenth time!) is “Lucky Repentance” Saves.....He has a Child’s view of Christianity —- a poorly taught child....VERY poorly taught....
I don't see this as an objection to what @Blood Bought 1953 said. His main point, as I understand it, comes down to this. Did Jesus know me or not? If he knows me, then it follows that I am obeying his teaching, including Jesus commandment to "go and sin no more." And if I understand the original point, the exhortation was an encouragement to expand our thinking with regard to our walk. Does our walk include an avoidance of sin? Yes. Does our walk include confession of sin and a repudiation of sin? Yes, of course. But is that the sum and substance of our walk? That is the topic question and I agree, those who measure themselves against the sins they have laid are not only missing the depth and profundity of sin, they are missing the depth and profundity of a relationship with Jesus."Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee." (John 5:14)
"And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity." (Matthew 7:23)
Anyone who reads the Holy Bible on a regular basis will see the error posted by @Blood Bought 1953
Only those who listen to their sectarian teachers more than reading the Bible will be fooled by his vain speeches and fair words.
We need to follow this principle:
"let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged." (Romans 3:4)
@Blood Bought 1953I could not agree with you more....Overt, outlandish, unrepentant Believers need to be kicked out of the Church until they get an “Attitude Adjustment”......We are not talking about Salvation....if the man is a Believer in Christ Jesus, he is Sealed and Saved permanently.....
I’m as Hyper Grace as a man can get, but I can’t disagree with is clearly Biblical.....You will NEVER see me say, “ it’s OK to sin” ——- it’s NOT OK, but God Chastise His Children ( getting ejected from the Church is one example) when they Sin.....He does NOT cast them into Hell ......when Gid made the Promise that “ Anybody that asks to be Saved WILL BE saved” , He didn’t see any of this stuff coming? It is clear how He handles foolish, Disobedient Children— and it damning everybody left and right because ALL of us “ Stumble” , as James pointed out.....
Had the Sinful Believer at Corinth not Repented and changed his behavior, God probably would have “ taken him home” early with a premature death.....God is not going to be mocked.....make a mockery of His Grace and you will still be Saved if you are a Believer.....you are just going to pay one hell of a price—- both in your Earthly existence and also in your Heavenly Existence.....
Christians never stop sinning so are "living in sin" from the moment of conversion until death regardless. There is no such thing as "backsliding" because that would imply we ( as mere humans through our own actions) somehow achieved a physical state of "sinlessness" to "backslide from"- OTHERWISE we are in perpetual "backsliding" ( never attaining the goal of sinlessness in the flesh) with the only difference is person "A" sins more/less than person "B".
You have said a mouthful here... I believe much of the offence that is birthed in this thread and all others that discuss the issue of sin.... is that NO consideration is given to the TRUTH that we are all a work in progress....sometimes we act well... and we are ( one with God if you will ) and sometimes... we fall short... for a multitude of reasons... and God is fully aware of that.Consider another interpretation. Did Jesus and Paul want us to kick all unbelieving sinners out of our churches? I don't think so. How else are we going to help the lost? What is the REAL issue here? I think upon further reflection we might see that the primary focus of our concern is the man who claims to be a brother - a fellow follower of Christ - while at the same time, acting as one who is not a follower of Christ. And what is the intended purpose behind disfellowship? Shall we also impose excommunication? I don't think so. The purpose of disfellowship is to make clear the opinion of those in the church that such a man is NOT a brother in the Lord. But having gone that far, the church is to treat the man as any other unbeliever: reach out in love and attempt to persuade the man to repent and turn to the Lord.
It's not grinding an ax. These Progressive Hyper Grace people talk a good talk until they get to the hieratical part of their theology. And it's not just a meaningless point of theology. Their theology teaches that you can choose to purposely live in sin in unbelief and you are still saved as long as you had believed somewhere in the past. It's a damnable theology of the highest order. But because they talk a good talk about God's grace they slip right under the radar of true believers. Would you take your kids to a church that taught them (behind your back) that their sin doesn't mean anything in regard to whether or not they are actually saved or not?I was simply commenting on a particular post. I don't have an ax to grind.
'For what does the Scripture say?No Christian finds a life of sin attractive....No Christian promotes it.....All Of the sins of a Christian are Under the Blood.....not only forgiven But Forgotten ( “ I will remember your sins no more”) ..... Sins are forgiven in the Eternal sense as far as Salvation, but rest assured—- Nobody “ gets away” with anything....if you are a Child Of God, God will Chastise you for your sins.....It’s obvious that all men should strive to sin less......
Having said all of that.....”Sin Prevention” is not to be the “ end-all and be-all” of Christianity......Every person that stands before Jesus will be a Sinner—- some will be redeemed because of their Faith in Jesus and others will not.....sin ain’t gonna be the deciding factor of whether you go to Heaven or Hell.....
The Hell- Bound will not be hearing, “Depart From me because You Sinned too much and therefore must go to Hell”.....We ALL have sinned too much to merit Heaven.....once again , that ain’t the issue.....The Damned souls will be hearing, “Depart From Me, I never KNEW you!”
Paul said his biggest desire was to “ KNOW Him”.....Why is that so important? If one Knows God, he will love God and pretty much everything else will take care of itself .....
In the end, Christianity is not about our pitiful Performance, it is not about “ Sin Prevention” ....at the Judgement seat, it ain’t gonna be , “ did you get an adequate handle on the sins in your life or did you not?” The BIG Question one must answer —the Question that will determine Heaven or Hell , is this—- DO YOU KNOW HIM?
Christianity ain’t religion.....in fact, it is the opposite.....it is a Relationship between you and Jesus..Abandon your Dead Works and your self - righteousness.....trying to “ make yourself worthy”...... we are “ MADE WORTHY” by the Blood Of The Lamb......REST in the Gospel Of 1Cor 15:1-4....Love for God will follow....then,and ONLY THEN, will you Know Him and He Know you....