How far must we go..........
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amigo de christo
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Actually she didnt say it first . JESUS DID . If any man cometh to me and continue NOT ............
HE who endures to the END the same shall be saved . folks seem to forget stuff JESUS said real quick .
That has been MY POINT all along . IF JESUS FELT THE NEED TO REMIND , THEN WE SHOULD TOO .
Are there any who believe they are born again who are not?
Marvelloustime
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Wonderful reminders dear spotted brother @amigo de christo
Eternally Grateful
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Um No, Jesus did not
The endure to the end quote is about the tribulation period. And it is physical life. Not spiritual life that is in question.
And who continues not? the saved? The people made new? The people who are born again?
or the people who Never came in the first place (like Judas) who were never saved.
The point I made was that the people in that passage were trying to enter with God's good works. The point I made in another thread is that God can save someone, but not if they don't let him. And that is a very complex problem that only God is able to judge. Some people have flaws which looks like they should be condemned. That does not mean God is going to condemn them I think.
amigo de christo
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well many claim to be . but then many can honor him with their lips indeed and yet , NOT KNOW HIM .
BY their fruits YOU WILL KNOW THEM .
There are two kinds of fruit .
The fruit of the wicked is to SIN
the FRUIT of the SPIRIT , is in all righteouness , goodness and TRUTH
proving what is acceptable TO GOD . not to man , not to a generation , but to GOD .
You see many actually HONOR SIN , no conviction , dont even think its sin , HONOR IT , JUSITFY IT , ETC
WHERE is the SPIRIT in all of that . I mean when i err , OR even a lustful thought pops into my head
I SEEM TO GET GRIEVED , convicted , and if i do err , Have no peace till i do repent . IN other words
I Dont sit and HONOR MY SIN anymore . I DONT SIT and say HEY its fine to watch porn
or hey GOD UNDERSTANDS if i look upon half naked women . RATHER
this is what occurs . IF a half naked woman does walk by , SURE THE FLESH CAN RISE UP and lustful temptation
sure can RISE UP . BUT SO TOO DOES THE SPIRIT to convict me fast TO NOT LOOK
or if i slipped and did i FEEL heaviness and sorrow for doing so .
BUT MOST FOLKS just HONOR SIN , like gay marriage , or whatever . hAVING NO CONVICTION at all
but rather JUSITFYING why they do as they do . THEY DO NOT KNOW THE LORD . i should know
i was one of the worst of them BEFORE the grace of GOD did appear .
amigo de christo
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Yes we must endure to the end no matter what cometh against us . OSAS is the one teaching this applies ONLY
to some GREAT TRIBULATOIN PEROID and not rather to THE LAMBS . SEE you are already TWSTING STUFF .
YOU DO realize JESUS said this to HIS OWN DESCIPLES , who also taught it to their own church .
YOU twisting it to fit OSAS . that has been my problem all along . Watch out is all i can say .
Be advised everyone , i just learned Eternally grateful does not follow the CALIVIN OSAS . I thought he did .
So yeah , HE DONT . that is good .
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amigo de christo
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JESUS even warned the church from heaven about having to remain faithful in him to THE END .
oops what you gonna say about that . YOu see OSAS has taught things it never should have taught .
Paul too reminded the churches about this , IF , IF
yet yall even twist that warning too . to fit AN ACROYNM . FORGETTING that all those reminders are actually
INSPIRED BY THE SPIRIT for our own good . Watch out , beware .
amigo de christo
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JESUS warned we do need to remain faithful to the end
OSAS says we dont .
WHICH ONE YOU THINK I AM GONNA BELIEVE , that which came of men or that which JESUS SAID .
EXACTLY . WHAT JESUS SAID .
OSAS says we dont .
WHICH ONE YOU THINK I AM GONNA BELIEVE , that which came of men or that which JESUS SAID .
EXACTLY . WHAT JESUS SAID .
amigo de christo
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Eternally grateful has made it clear he dont follow the calvin osas . I was misunderstanding him .
just wanted to let everyone know .
just wanted to let everyone know .
Debp
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I totally agree with the above. And some of you know that I believe we should live godly in Christ...grow spiritually. (Walk in the Spirit.)
However, just wanted to point out that I do believe in Eternal Security. I am secure in Christ, what He did for me. It is a life of peace in mind and heart when we walk with Jesus in our daily life.
Any are free to believe as they wish.
Both sides try to bring judgement against the other.
I too believe in eternal security IF one continues in the faith, resists sin, walks in the word, follows the Spirit, and is NOT leaning on their own understanding or strength.
There are too many conditions & warning to rest on the laurel of once someone is saved they can never reject God and turn from the faith.
This thread however is not about being born again nor eternal security but our growth in the word and Spirit and our walk with God. Therefore I wanted it stopped.
Too many threads get redundant with the same rhetoric of endless recycling of the same ole, same ole. It is time it stops. I will be doing my part to see if I can change this.
While I cannot stand for OSAS myself, neither am I able to decide against all of those who do stand for it. Some of them probably are sincere in their hearts that their position is true. Let God be the judge. Not me!
Let us thank God that He does not require us to make a final judgment for or against anyone.
amigo de christo
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Yes KING JESUS is our hope and our salvation .
Debp , never let the merging love relgion convince you that other religions know or serve God .
Keep reminding all that one must BELEIVE JESUS IS THE CHRIST .
Cause we got us a balloon of a false love that has sprung up and not only will it try and convince folks
that certain sins are LOVE , it is convincing many that there is no dire need to believe JESUS is the Christ .
Its coming in under a very broad road lie to GOD . ITS DOING it in the name of love .
Let none fall for it . Satan has come in this last hour to merge all religoins and peoples
to be as one . And how is he doing it , preaching a common love of the world
He , the dragon , has his co workers at work to convince the peoples of all religoins as well as secular
to find common ground under what he calls love . And the false religoins as well as christendom
are buying it and selling it . As the religoins all chant GOD is love and imply that all religoins are serving the same God .
DEAD WRONG . THIS IS NOT THE LOVE OF GOD . THE LOVE OF GOD WOULD have POINTED TO THE DIRE NEED
to BELEIVE ON JESUS CHRIST so as those who do so would not perish . Satan knows how to say love too . BUT TIS FALSE love .
amigo de christo
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speaking of being sincere in ones heart as to their position being true . BEWARE
for many other false religoins are very sincere that their god and religoin IS true . But they all false .
I am speaking of other religions . Amadeus a monster has crept within synagogues , churches , mosgues
budist , heck atheist , TO MERGE THIS WORLD under a lie that wont save it . Many buying into
this love too . The religoins false and even christendom too . The father of lies knows how to lie and to decieve .
mark my words HE TOO can say GOD IS LOVE , but i promise he nor his love will lead them to FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST
it will and is rather leading them all to beleive we all serve the same GOD . IT BE A LIE my friend .
Satan knows how to allure , he knows how to decieve . YOU can BET he wont be POINTING TO THE DIRE NEED
to have to BELIEVE ON JESUS CHRIST either . Rather he will cook up another version of love
which says and makes the path to GOD VERY , VERY BRAOD . but its a lie .
TRUE LOVE that cometh of GOD , POINTS TO JESUS CHRIST ALONE . not to lies and fables of a love gone wrong .
amigo de christo
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These folks is looking for love in ALL THE WRONG PLACES . claiming muslims budists and all kinds of faces .
They cooking up a love that simply cannot , will not , shall not save them nor any who buys it either .
YOU SEE they are fast to point out the good works of all religoins then cook that up as love
then they sprinkle the idea that we all know GOD and its all about just doing good .
YOU KNOW WHAT IS MISSING from this love , this world wise dragon clever spun love
THE DIRE NEED TO HAVE TO BELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST . GUESS what that means , IT AINT SAVING SQUAT .
They cooking up a love that simply cannot , will not , shall not save them nor any who buys it either .
YOU SEE they are fast to point out the good works of all religoins then cook that up as love
then they sprinkle the idea that we all know GOD and its all about just doing good .
YOU KNOW WHAT IS MISSING from this love , this world wise dragon clever spun love
THE DIRE NEED TO HAVE TO BELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST . GUESS what that means , IT AINT SAVING SQUAT .
While I agree that there is a monster in those places, the same monster, I believe, is found in too many churches designated as Christian. Even in a"good" church a person needs to be led by the Spirit of God.
amigo de christo
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this love , this false love was purposefully brought in to UNIFY ALL RELIGOINS to be ONE .
Not only is it taking captive christendom , IT BEGAN from within those chambers . Anti christ spirit
has come from within to take captive christendom to a lie and to promote the lie that simply WILL SAVE NONE .
Satan is wise my friend . Greater IS HE within the lambs than he who is of the world .
We cannot buy into this wordly love stuff they are pumping into the churches .
This love has silenced more and more the preaching of the gospel as more and more
are now believing its not necessary for other religions or etc to have to beleive in JESUS the CHRIST .
Rather its sold them a rotted bill of goods that it is calling love and the love of God . WHICH IT AINT .
See any love that omits the DIRE NEED TO HAVE TO BELEIVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST , well IT AINT THE LOVE OF GOD
and IT SURE AINT COMING FROM GOD . GOD DESIRES LIFE not death . The author of this dark love
desires the death of all . ITs love wont save them , for its love not only accepts sins and calls certain sins love and good
its love has sold them the grand lie of all , that one dont need to beleive on JESUS CHRIST as long as they have love .
ITS sold them on the idea that other religons , even athiest can and do love GOD .
NO . that is a lie .
FOR HAD THEY TRULY LOVED GOD , THEY WOULD HAVE LOVED JESUS CHRIST WHO CAME FORTH OF GOD .
IF the deny the gospel , THEY DENY GOD , they have NO LOVE FOR GOD and call HIM a liar .
He who denies JESUS is the CHRIST , is anti christ they are a liar . JOHN wrote that to the church .
The other religoins are not beleiving in JESUS THE CHRIST , at most some believe in another jesus
as they follow their false religoin and other jesus right into the pits of darkness .
WE MUST stand firm and as one ON the true gospel of JESUS CHRIST . Many are not gonna make it amadeus .
We were warned of a falling away , of a strong delusion to believe a lie . GOD TRULY IS LOVE
AND THUS GOD DID SEND the SON so that all who do BELEIVE would not perish .
but satan says otherwise , he says GOD is love and he has made the path BROAD . just do good works and believe as thou wilt
He says . BUT THEN HE NEVER HAS BEEN KNOWN to be A TRUTH TELLER now has he . HE knows how to decieve .
amigo de christo
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How far must we go indeed my dear sister . Ye cannot even be my desciple lest ........................................
To the last and final breath we gonna point to the GLORIOUS LORD . Hit the trenches sister . This is the last hour
and as we have heard that anti christ should come , even now has it been in the world . The mystery of inquity
and he who worketh it has not been at rest sister . WE are in the last hour . Many have come and bled before us through all
ages . And now we have entered into their labors through the preaching of the gospel . And now the war for the souls of men
they fought , IS NOW OUR WAR . what is this last generation gonna do in that war . RUN and tuck tail
or stand and contend for the true faith , counting the cost and fearing not man . THE LAMBS GONNA DO EXPLOITS SISTER
for GREATER IS HE who is within the lambs than the deciever and decievers who are of the world . Hit them trenches sister
To the last and final breath we gonna point to the GLORIOUS LORD . Hit the trenches sister . This is the last hour
and as we have heard that anti christ should come , even now has it been in the world . The mystery of inquity
and he who worketh it has not been at rest sister . WE are in the last hour . Many have come and bled before us through all
ages . And now we have entered into their labors through the preaching of the gospel . And now the war for the souls of men
they fought , IS NOW OUR WAR . what is this last generation gonna do in that war . RUN and tuck tail
or stand and contend for the true faith , counting the cost and fearing not man . THE LAMBS GONNA DO EXPLOITS SISTER
for GREATER IS HE who is within the lambs than the deciever and decievers who are of the world . Hit them trenches sister
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