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Truther

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I'm not a daily communicant. I said "Daily if possible"
Unfortunately, with my schedule, it's not possible.

Pay attention, sparky . . .
Since you don't have Jesus in you per the baptism of the Holy Ghost, I can see your desire to devour him bodily as much as possible.
 

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The Eucharist doesn't taste like chalk. It tastes like bread.
Wrong, it sticks to the roof of your mouth and is ghastly in taste.

Bread tastes yummy.

You must be a horrible bread maker.
 

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Uh uh.
Sooooo, WHY does Paul state:
1 Cor. 11:26
For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord's death until he comes.

Once again - you FAILED to show me where the Bible says:
"You must ONLY receive the Lord ONCE i your lifetime"??
It's a memorial of Christ's death. Not a Christ tasting ceremony.

...."do this in MEMORY of me".

Not.... "eat me"!

26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come.
 
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WRONG - I absolutely know.
It's a matter of history, Einstein.

And you will not find ONE reputable Protestant scholar who will disagree with me on that . . .
Do you google 1800 year old comments?

The internet is that old?

Or, is the RCC etc hiding something, then filtering these "copies" of commentary?

You betcha....these commentaries are as crazy as the book of Mormon etc....extra Biblical false doctrines of apostates.
 

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Because he got tired of being called "Liar" . . .
I think @Truther forgot that a person can VERY easily do a search of their posts and see if they have in fact interpreted Scripture. I found MULTIPLE posts where Truther interpreted Scripture even though he said "I don't interpret it for them." Very disheartening and concerning....:(

You are more patient than I am...kudos to you.

Mary
 

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But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you...
And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
...not by the pope, but the original Apostles.
ONE more time, sparky, because this is getting old . . .

Are you EVER going to show me where the Bible supports Sola Scriptura - the 16th century, man-made Protestant idea that Scripture ALONE is our SOLE Authority??

ALSO
- You have failed several times now to to show me where the Bible says:
"You must ONLY receive the Lord ONCE in your lifetime - in ANY way, shape or form"??

Produce the evidence for both - or simply admit that you're wrong . . .
 

BreadOfLife

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Since you don't have Jesus in you per the baptism of the Holy Ghost, I can see your desire to devour him bodily as much as possible.
WRONG again.

I received the Holy Spirit at Baptism, per John 3:5 and Acts 2:38.

STUDY your Bible . . .
 

BreadOfLife

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It's a memorial of Christ's death. Not a Christ tasting ceremony.
...."do this in MEMORY of me".
Not.... "eat me"!
26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come.
WRONG again, Einstein.
Time for another Bible lesson . . .

In 1 Corinthians 11:27-30, Paul speaks to the reality of the Eucharist and the severity of the consequences to those who take this lightly: “Therefore whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord unworthily will have to answer for the body and blood of the Lord. A person should examine himself, and so eat the bread and drink the cup. For anyone who eats and drinks without discerning the body, eats and drinks judgment on himself. That is why many among you are ill and infirm, and a considerable number are dying.”

This is pretty harsh language for something that YOU claim is only a "symbol."

This directly correlates to the Bread of Life Discourse in John 6, where Jesus stated in no uncertain terms:
“Amen, amen, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.
Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him on the last day. For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me and I in him.”


Now - the usual Greek word used for human eating is “phagon”, however, this is NOT the word used in these passages. John uses the word, “trogon”, which means, to "munch or to gnaw" - like an animal. Jesus was again using hyperbole as he often did to drive his point across so that the crowd would understand that he was NOT speaking metaphorically. He meant what he said.

Just as the Paschal Lamb was to be eaten, it is also true for the Lamb of God.

In verse 60, his disciples said, "This saying is hard; who can accept it?"

Did Jesus explain what he "really" meant? No, he said: "Does this shock you?" He knew that some would not believe because they didn't have true faith from the Father - like YOU.

Don't you EVER get tired of being proven wrong??
 

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I think @Truther forgot that a person can VERY easily do a search of their posts and see if they have in fact interpreted Scripture. I found MULTIPLE posts where Truther interpreted Scripture even though he said "I don't interpret it for them." Very disheartening and concerning....:(

You are more patient than I am...kudos to you.

Mary
I'm not patient - I'm just watching him hang himself . . .
 
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Do you google 1800 year old comments?

The internet is that old?

Or, is the RCC etc hiding something, then filtering these "copies" of commentary?

You betcha....these commentaries are as crazy as the book of Mormon etc....extra Biblical false doctrines of apostates.
The Catholic church has the oldest copies of Biblical manuscripts available - because it was the Catholic Church who copied them down, Einstein.

If you spent as much time doing your homework as you do regurgitating your usual drivel - you might actually LEARN somethin' . . .
 
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Does your holy wafer get digested or does it go to heaven from your intestines, bypassing the rear?
Since you teach you eat Jesus(transubstantiation), then you obviously poop Jesus

Wrong, it sticks to the roof of your mouth and is ghastly in taste.
I think YOU should be more concerned about how hot coals taste . . .
 
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I think YOU should be more concerned about how hot coals taste . . .
That is akin to the ghastly taste of the chalky wafer that the RCC cooks somehow, then saying it is Christ's literal body that came out of the industrial press.
 

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The Catholic church has the oldest copies of Biblical manuscripts available - because it was the Catholic Church who copied them down, Einstein.

If you spent as much time doing your homework as you do regurgitating your usual drivel - you might actually LEARN somethin' . . .
The RCC INVENTED the "oldest copies" of commentary.
It was the CNN of it's time.
The lemmings believe it's fake news commentary to his day.
 

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WRONG again, Einstein.
Time for another Bible lesson . . .

In 1 Corinthians 11:27-30, Paul speaks to the reality of the Eucharist and the severity of the consequences to those who take this lightly: “Therefore whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord unworthily will have to answer for the body and blood of the Lord. A person should examine himself, and so eat the bread and drink the cup. For anyone who eats and drinks without discerning the body, eats and drinks judgment on himself. That is why many among you are ill and infirm, and a considerable number are dying.”

This is pretty harsh language for something that YOU claim is only a "symbol."

This directly correlates to the Bread of Life Discourse in John 6, where Jesus stated in no uncertain terms:
“Amen, amen, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.
Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him on the last day. For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me and I in him.”


Now - the usual Greek word used for human eating is “phagon”, however, this is NOT the word used in these passages. John uses the word, “trogon”, which means, to "munch or to gnaw" - like an animal. Jesus was again using hyperbole as he often did to drive his point across so that the crowd would understand that he was NOT speaking metaphorically. He meant what he said.

Just as the Paschal Lamb was to be eaten, it is also true for the Lamb of God.

In verse 60, his disciples said, "This saying is hard; who can accept it?"

Did Jesus explain what he "really" meant? No, he said: "Does this shock you?" He knew that some would not believe because they didn't have true faith from the Father - like YOU.

Don't you EVER get tired of being proven wrong??
The RCC promotes literal drinking of blood.

How ghastly.

Hey, what part of Christ's flesh did you wash down with the cup of his blood today?

The liver, kidney?...What is your favorite part...Ribs?

Or, is it symbolic of Christ returning and living in this part of man?....


38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.

39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)
 

Truther

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WRONG again.

I received the Holy Spirit at Baptism, per John 3:5 and Acts 2:38.

STUDY your Bible . . .
Good, So I take it you spoke with other tongues as the Spirit gave you the utterance.

Now that you practice speaking in tongues, how is it that the Spirit of truth has not lead you to the entire truth of repentance, then being baptized in the specific name of Jesus Christ for the remission of your sins?

Shall the Spirit of truth have to bonk you over the head?
 

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ONE more time, sparky, because this is getting old . . .

Are you EVER going to show me where the Bible supports Sola Scriptura - the 16th century, man-made Protestant idea that Scripture ALONE is our SOLE Authority??

ALSO
- You have failed several times now to to show me where the Bible says:
"You must ONLY receive the Lord ONCE in your lifetime - in ANY way, shape or form"??

Produce the evidence for both - or simply admit that you're wrong . . .
But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you...
And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
...not by the pope, but the original Apostles.

....which foundation the RCC has ripped apart with commentary.
 

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I think @Truther forgot that a person can VERY easily do a search of their posts and see if they have in fact interpreted Scripture. I found MULTIPLE posts where Truther interpreted Scripture even though he said "I don't interpret it for them." Very disheartening and concerning....:(

You are more patient than I am...kudos to you.

Mary
Naughty, naughty.

Fact is, Truther HIGHLIGHTS verses that cause folks to self interpret scripture(to their own dismay).

I need not tell you what to think, but merely underline and embolden them.

This causes commentary free disruption to the status quo thinker...like this for example....


12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.


....this verse is extremely upsetting to most status quo Christians, which depicts Jesus having a God right now while he is in heaven.
 

BreadOfLife

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The RCC INVENTED the "oldest copies" of commentary.
It was the CNN of it's time.
The lemmings believe it's fake news commentary to his day.
In other word - you simply cannot refute the historical fact that it was the Catholic Church who copied the Scriptures down through the centuries.

That's what I thought . . .
 

BreadOfLife

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The RCC promotes literal drinking of blood.
How ghastly.
Hey, what part of Christ's flesh did you wash down with the cup of his blood today?
The liver, kidney?...What is your favorite part...Ribs?
Or, is it symbolic of Christ returning and living in this part of man?....

38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.
39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)
John 6:53-56
“Amen, amen, I say to you,
unless you EAT THE FLESH OF THE SON OF MAN and DRINK HIS BLOOD, you do not have life within you.
Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him on the last day. For MY FLESH IS TRUE FOOD, and MY BLOOD IS TRUE DRINK. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me and I in him.”


Ummmmmm, pretty straightforward to me.
If YOU don't believe Him - that's YOUR problem, not mine . . .
 

BreadOfLife

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Good, So I take it you spoke with other tongues as the Spirit gave you the utterance.

Now that you practice speaking in tongues, how is it that the Spirit of truth has not lead you to the entire truth of repentance, then being baptized in the specific name of Jesus Christ for the remission of your sins?

Shall the Spirit of truth have to bonk you over the head?
Nope - I don't speak in tongues, that's not my gift.
You see, Einstein - The Bible tells us that not ALL of the body have ALL of the same gifts.

1 Cor. 12:27-31
Now you are the body of Christ and individually members of it. And God has appointed in the church first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healing, helping, administrating, and various kinds of tongues. Are ALL apostles? Are ALL prophets? Are ALL teachers? Do ALL work miracles? Do ALL possess gifts of healing? DO ALL SPEAK IN TONGUES? Do ALL interpret? But earnestly desire the higher gifts.

STUDY your Bible . . .