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Our works dont matter to God.
Absolutely, not at all.

See, the Bible says our "ALL our works are as a filty rag" before God.
And that was written by Isaiah...who was perhaps the greatest OT prophet.
He's the one who foresaw Jesus and said...that "by Jesus Stripes we were Healed".

Why does Isaiah say that "" ALL our good works are like a filthy rag?""

Its becasue He's comparing our works to God's Holiness.......and in that Light, all our deeds, works, performance, self effort, as compared to Holy God, = ALL our works are as a "filthy rag".

Understand?

Let me show you again, reader.

An unbeliever, on their way to Hell......... can give to a poor person...a thousand dollars to help them.
So, a "Christian" can do it also.
What is the difference before God. ??????????

NOTHING.

See, its only in YOUR MIND that you believe that your works are now become something special because you're a Christian.
Oh. look at me.......all. my works.......my my my........me me me.......Im something......Let me tell you about my works !!
Yet, they are NOTHING before God., .. but in your mind.....

Listen now.
God does NOT evaluate our works that we do for Him or for Christ.......because not only are they all a "filthy rag" before God.....its also the fact that our works for Him might FAIL....
Have you never tried to do something for God and it FAILED....totally?
How many times?
If not, you're not really trying...
So, our Works are just that, and nothing more.......They dont gain a Halo, because we are doing them as a Christian.
They are the same VALUE before God, as if you were doing them as a Christ rejector.

So, what does God VALUE?......if He does not value our works for Him.

A.) God values the MOTIVE in our HEART that caused us to want to do the good deed.

God looks at your HEART.........not at your works.....

So, get over yourself....and get off your self effort to try to be accepted by God, as He wont have it.
He's not interested .


Now, there has to be someone here who studies the Bible.. loves the Bible, vs just someone randomly posting verses and pretending you understand them, so that you can continue an argument.

So, go to Genesis, and read what Happened to CAIN.......when He tried to bring his WORKS before God...

God had not changed.
Read it.

"works are still = Filthy rags"........but your Heart MOTIVE for doing the works....= now THAT is going to be judged, when you meet Christ at the "Judgement seat of Christ".
 
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Reader,

Our works dont matter to God.
Absolutely, not at all.

See, the Bible says our "ALL our works are as a filty rag" before God.
And that was written by Isaiah...who was perhaps the greatest OT prophet.
He's the one who foresaw Jesus and said...that "by Jesus Stripes we were Healed".

Why does Isaiah say that "" ALL our good works are like a filthy rag?""

Its becasue He's comparing our works to God's Holiness.......and in that Light, all our deeds, works, performance, self effort, as compared to Holy God, = ALL our works are as a "filthy rag".

Understand?

Let me show you again, reader.

An unbeliever, on their way to Hell......... can give to a poor person...a thousand dollars to help them.
So, a "Christian" can do it also.

What is the difference before God. ??????????

NOTHING.

Depends…on a BIG “IF” a man gives something to help Another… AND … to the receiving person the Giver “Gives God the CREDIT” for the “givers Ability “TO Give”…
”THAT GIVER has just Glorified God”(that ACT God Repays With A “Reward..a Treasure stored up IN Heaven”….Which Jesus Brings with Him When He Returns.

Glory to God,
Taken
 

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Depends…on a BIG “IF” a man gives something to help Another…

Both the unbeliever and the CHRISTian, gave $1000.00 USD to help the poor person.

No difference, in the deed, because works are always just works


AND … to the receiving person the Giver “Gives God the CREDIT” for the “givers Ability “TO Give”…

Typically if you give a hungry person the means to get a meal, they are going to thank God for you.

”THAT GIVER has just Glorified God”(that ACT God Repays With A “Reward..a Treasure stored up IN Heaven”….Which Jesus Brings with Him When He Returns.

If that Christian "giver" has the right motive, then it's accounted for them as "what have you done in my Body"....

So, that wont be a "wood-hay-stubble".......it will instead be rewarded at the "bema" seat.

God evaluates the motive.
People evaluate the deed.

James said that "i'll show YOU my faith by my works".......and people will evaluate you, this way.
God on the other Hand, looks at your heart, and evaluate your MOTIVE for doing that "work".
 

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Both the unbeliever and the CHRISTian, gave $1000.00 USD to help the poor person.

No difference, in the deed, because works are always just works




Typically if you give a hungry person the means to get a meal, they are going to thank God for you.



If that Christian "giver" has the right motive, then it's accounted for them as "what have you done in my Body"....

So, that wont be a "wood-hay-stubble".......it will instead be rewarded at the "bema" seat.

God evaluates the motive.
People evaluate the deed.

James said that "i'll show YOU my faith by my works".......and people will evaluate you, this way.
God on the other Hand, looks at your heart, and evaluate your MOTIVE for doing that "work".

God searches the heart for a True Belief.

When one man Thanks, returns a gratitude… to the giver…that giver has his “Reward”…

Helping, charity, “and” Accrediting God, IS Glorifying God… and a debt unto God…He Rewards.

Matt 5:
[16] Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.

Rom 4:
[4] Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.


Glory to God,
Taken
 

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God searches the heart for a True Belief.

And when God finds "true belief" then their "faith is counted by God as (Christ's imputed) Righteousness"" to them.

When one man Thanks, returns a gratitude… to the giver…that giver has his “Reward”…

Its definitely a reward to be appreciated by the recipient.

There is also a heavenly reward, that is based on our heart motive.
[16] Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.

And hopefully the doer will be rewarded also.

Rom 4:
[4] Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.

Your verse is well applied to this forum as so many on this forum, are trying to put God under their debt by Declaring that their works are keepiing them saved.
This issue with this carnal "fallen from Grace" thinking is that it robs Christ of the Credit due Him alone for our Salvation, and it insults God's Grace.
 

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Reader,

Our works dont matter to God.
Absolutely, not at all.

See, the Bible says our "ALL our works are as a filty rag" before God.
And that was written by Isaiah...who was perhaps the greatest OT prophet.
He's the one who foresaw Jesus and said...that "by Jesus Stripes we were Healed".

Why does Isaiah say that "" ALL our good works are like a filthy rag?""

Its becasue He's comparing our works to God's Holiness.......and in that Light, all our deeds, works, performance, self effort, as compared to Holy God, = ALL our works are as a "filthy rag".

Understand?

Let me show you again, reader.

An unbeliever, on their way to Hell......... can give to a poor person...a thousand dollars to help them.
So, a "Christian" can do it also.
What is the difference before God. ??????????

NOTHING.

See, its only in YOUR MIND that you believe that your works are now become something special because you're a Christian.
Oh. look at me.......all. my works.......my my my........me me me.......Im something......Let me tell you about my works !!
Yet, they are NOTHING before God., .. but in your mind.....

Listen now.
God does NOT evaluate our works that we do for Him or for Christ.......because not only are they all a "filthy rag" before God.....its also the fact that our works for Him might FAIL....
Have you never tried to do something for God and it FAILED....totally?
How many times?
If not, you're not really trying...
So, our Works are just that, and nothing more.......They dont gain a Halo, because we are doing them as a Christian.
They are the same VALUE before God, as if you were doing them as a Christ rejector.

So, what does God VALUE?......if He does not value our works for Him.

A.) God values the MOTIVE in our HEART that caused us to want to do the good deed.

God looks at your HEART.........not at your works.....

So, get over yourself....and get off your self effort to try to be accepted by God, as He wont have it.
He's not interested .


Now, there has to be someone here who studies the Bible.. loves the Bible, vs just someone randomly posting verses and pretending you understand them, so that you can continue an argument.

So, go to Genesis, and read what Happened to CAIN.......when He tried to bring his WORKS before God...

God had not changed.
Read it.

"works are still = Filthy rags"........but your Heart MOTIVE for doing the works....= now THAT is going to be judged, when you meet Christ at the "Judgement seat of Christ".
..and herein is the Judgement; you judge yourself by your own words and attitude.
 

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And when God finds "true belief" then their "faith is counted by God as (Christ's imputed) Righteousness"" to them.



Its definitely a reward to be appreciated by the recipient.

There is also a heavenly reward, that is based on our heart motive.


And hopefully the doer will be rewarded also.



Your verse is well applied to this forum as so many on this forum, are trying to put God under their debt by Declaring that their works are keepiing them saved.
This issue with this carnal "fallen from Grace" thinking is that it robs Christ of the Credit due Him alone for our Salvation, and it insults God's Grace.

Correct…
No, no, no… doing a mans works will neither save a mans soul or keep his soul saved.

The ONE works a man can DO for salvation, is the “Works OF God”… The Works God did..”BELIEVE.”

John 6:
[28] Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?

Hummm?

[29] Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.

The Scriptural meaning of … Faith without works is Dead.

Faith is For Hearing…
Without working the works of God… Faith is dead.

People “mistranslate” and teach… wrongly, “works of MEN” saves and keeps men saved.
No.

Glory to God,
Taken
 

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without works you are no different than the temple leaders Jesus taught not to be like. works are everything.

Mt 24
"42For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, 43I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’ 44Then they also will answer, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to you? Then he will answer them, saying, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.’ ’"

these are all works
 

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@quietthinker this guy speaks about imagination being inserted into the story of the “Good Samaritan”....but his interpretation is entirely suggestive. His imagination runs riot in this video.

Jesus gave the parable as an explanation of a question that a lawyer asked of him...he told the story to a man who thought that only people of his own race and religion were his neighbors. Jesus wanted to teach this man an important lesson.....that he needed to expand his concept of a “neighbor” to include more than just his fellow Jews.

Firstly the man who fell among the robbers was “stripped” of his clothing which for Jews was distinctive as only Jews wore that kind of garment to identify themselves. So the man who was assaulted and robbed and left for dead was not immediately identifiable as a Jew....perhaps he was a hated Samaritan and no Jew wanted to extend mercy to those not loved by God. If the man had not been stripped of his identifying garment, perhaps the outcome would have been different?

The sting in the tail with this story is that the two who passed the injured man by, were Jews attached to the Temple and God’s worship, who knew their Scripture about the “love of God and neighbor” that was part of their law, but for them it did not include anyone who wasn’t Jewish. And for ages past the Jews were kept separated from the gentiles until Messiah came in the preserved, unadulterated line of Abraham as it was prophesied.
But now it was time for a new attitude....gentiles were also promised salvation and the time came after Israel had rejected their Messiah and had him murdered, to invite them in.

As Jesus continues his illustration, the hero of the story enters the picture...a hated Samaritan!....who sees a fellow human, suffering and in need of help.....and does not hesitate to take action to do all he can to offer him assistance. He didn’t care about his race or beliefs...he just saw that a fellow human being was in need of help....assistance that he could provide....and he did so at cost to himself without expecting any recompense.
Can you feel the bristles rising in his Jewish audience as he made the Jews out to be what they really were in God’s eyes, but certainly not in their own...while Jesus painted an enemy as the hero?

The lawyer who asked the question, had to express his answer, according to his impression of the Samaritan’s actions....it was rather obvious, but it wasn’t quite what he was expecting. He would not have wanted the Samaritan to be “the good guy”....but the illustration would not have had the same impact.
 

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@quietthinker this guy speaks about imagination being inserted into the story of the “Good Samaritan”....but his interpretation is entirely suggestive. His imagination runs riot in this video.

Jesus gave the parable as an explanation of a question that a lawyer asked of him...he told the story to a man who thought that only people of his own race and religion were his neighbors. Jesus wanted to teach this man an important lesson.....that he needed to expand his concept of a “neighbor” to include more than just his fellow Jews.

Firstly the man who fell among the robbers was “stripped” of his clothing which for Jews was distinctive as only Jews wore that kind of garment to identify themselves. So the man who was assaulted and robbed and left for dead was not immediately identifiable as a Jew....perhaps he was a hated Samaritan and no Jew wanted to extend mercy to those not loved by God. If the man had not been stripped of his identifying garment, perhaps the outcome would have been different?

The sting in the tail with this story is that the two who passed the injured man by, were Jews attached to the Temple and God’s worship, who knew their Scripture about the “love of God and neighbor” that was part of their law, but for them it did not include anyone who wasn’t Jewish. And for ages past the Jews were kept separated from the gentiles until Messiah came in the preserved, unadulterated line of Abraham as it was prophesied.
But now it was time for a new attitude....gentiles were also promised salvation and the time came after Israel had rejected their Messiah and had him murdered, to invite them in.

As Jesus continues his illustration, the hero of the story enters the picture...a hated Samaritan!....who sees a fellow human, suffering and in need of help.....and does not hesitate to take action to do all he can to offer him assistance. He didn’t care about his race or beliefs...he just saw that a fellow human being was in need of help....assistance that he could provide....and he did so at cost to himself without expecting any recompense.
Can you feel the bristles rising in his Jewish audience as he made the Jews out to be what they really were in God’s eyes, but certainly not in their own...while Jesus painted an enemy as the hero?

The lawyer who asked the question, had to express his answer, according to his impression of the Samaritan’s actions....it was rather obvious, but it wasn’t quite what he was expecting. He would not have wanted the Samaritan to be “the good guy”....but the illustration would not have had the same impact.
I hope you got value out of it AJ.
 

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If you are still trying to work your way to heaven, then you should stop now. @quietthinker

Matt 5:20 For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.

What did Jesus mean?
 

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Correct…
No, no, no… doing a mans works will neither save a mans soul or keep his soul saved.

We can't become righteous, of ourselves, and to go to Heaven we have to be as righteous as God.

This is why God sent Jesus to The Cross to pay for all our sin, and then give us "the Gift of Righteousness".

What is the proof we have received God's Righteousness"?

A.) Born again (Spiritually)>

[29] Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.


To "obey the Gospel" is to believe it

The Scriptural meaning of … Faith without works is Dead.

Dead faith, is not Dead Salvation.

Dead faith is a Christianity , a discipleship that is not proving you have faith before other people.
There are no works........no significant change of behavior, that prove to other people that you are a Christian.
So, this one is very carnal, and backslid......but still born again.

“works of MEN” saves and keeps men saved.

If our good works and our trying to be like Christ could save us and keep us saved, then Jesus didnt need to Die on The Cross.
 

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Reader,

Our works dont matter to God.
Absolutely, not at all.

See, the Bible says our "ALL our works are as a filty rag" before God.
And that was written by Isaiah...who was perhaps the greatest OT prophet.
He's the one who foresaw Jesus and said...that "by Jesus Stripes we were Healed".

Why does Isaiah say that "" ALL our good works are like a filthy rag?""

Its becasue He's comparing our works to God's Holiness.......and in that Light, all our deeds, works, performance, self effort, as compared to Holy God, = ALL our works are as a "filthy rag".

Understand?

Let me show you again, reader.

An unbeliever, on their way to Hell......... can give to a poor person...a thousand dollars to help them.
So, a "Christian" can do it also.
What is the difference before God. ??????????

NOTHING.

See, its only in YOUR MIND that you believe that your works are now become something special because you're a Christian.
Oh. look at me.......all. my works.......my my my........me me me.......Im something......Let me tell you about my works !!
Yet, they are NOTHING before God., .. but in your mind.....

Listen now.
God does NOT evaluate our works that we do for Him or for Christ.......because not only are they all a "filthy rag" before God.....its also the fact that our works for Him might FAIL....
Have you never tried to do something for God and it FAILED....totally?
How many times?
If not, you're not really trying...
So, our Works are just that, and nothing more.......They dont gain a Halo, because we are doing them as a Christian.
They are the same VALUE before God, as if you were doing them as a Christ rejector.

So, what does God VALUE?......if He does not value our works for Him.

A.) God values the MOTIVE in our HEART that caused us to want to do the good deed.

God looks at your HEART.........not at your works.....

So, get over yourself....and get off your self effort to try to be accepted by God, as He wont have it.
He's not interested .


Now, there has to be someone here who studies the Bible.. loves the Bible, vs just someone randomly posting verses and pretending you understand them, so that you can continue an argument.

So, go to Genesis, and read what Happened to CAIN.......when He tried to bring his WORKS before God...

God had not changed.
Read it.

"works are still = Filthy rags"........but your Heart MOTIVE for doing the works....= now THAT is going to be judged, when you meet Christ at the "Judgement seat of Christ".
That's probably true to a follower of Paul but for the rest of us who read the entire word of God that's a grotesque error. It's best to I ire the stuff you don't like right ?

Matthew 25:31-46

31 The Solemn Judgment at the End of Time.[a]“When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on the throne of his glory. 32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 He will place the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.

34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat; I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink; I was a stranger and you welcomed me; 36 I was naked and you clothed me; I was ill and you took care of me; I was in prison and you came to visit me.’

37 “Then the righteous will say to him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and give you something to eat, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you? 39 When did we see you ill or in prison and come to visit you?’ 40 And the King will answer, ‘Amen, I say to you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brethren of mine, you did for me.’

41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you accursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you did not give me anything to eat; I was thirsty and you did not give me anything to drink; 43 I was a stranger and you did not welcome me; I was naked and you did not give me any clothing; I was ill and in prison and you did not visit me.’

44 “Then they will ask him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or ill or in prison and not minister to you?’ 45 He will answer them, ‘Amen, I say to you, whatever you failed to do for one of the least of these brethren of mine, you failed to do for me.’ 46 And they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous will enter eternal life.”
 

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That's probably true to a follower of Paul but for the rest of us who read the entire world of God that's a grotesque error. It's best to I ire the stuff you don't like right ?

Salvation that is eternal, is not based on the works of a sinner.
So, give up.
Salvation is eternally based on Jesus's Sacrifice to God for the sin of a sinner.
You can't do that.. .for yourself.
Perhaps one day you'll understand this.. @nedsk, as you certainly dont understand it, currently.
 

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That's probably true to a follower of Paul

Paul teaches the Christians...
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Follow my example, as I follow the example of Christ.

King James Bible
Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.


New Living Translation

And you should imitate me, just as I imitate Christ.


New King James Version
Imitate me, just as I also imitate Christ.

New American Standard Bible
Be imitators of me, just as I also am of Christ.

NASB 1995
Be imitators of me, just as I also am of Christ.

NASB 1977
Be imitators of me, just as I also am of Christ.

Legacy Standard Bible
Be imitators of me, just as I also am of Christ.

Amplified Bible
Imitate me, just as I imitate Christ.

Christian Standard Bible
Imitate me, as I also imitate Christ.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
Imitate me, as I also imitate Christ.

American Standard Version
Be ye imitators of me, even as I also am of Christ.

Contemporary English Version
You must follow my example, as I follow the example of Christ.

English Revised Version
Be ye imitators of me, even as I also am of Christ.

GOD'S WORD® Translation
Imitate me as I imitate Christ.

Good News Translation
Imitate me, then, just as I imitate Christ.

International Standard Version
Imitate me, as I do the Messiah.

NET Bible
Be imitators of me, just as I also am of Christ.

New Heart English Bible
Be imitators of me, even as I also am of Christ.

Webster's Bible Translation
Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.

Weymouth New Testament
Be imitators of me, in so far as I in turn am an imitator of Christ.
 

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This is why God sent Jesus to The Cross to pay for all our sin, and then give us "the Gift of Righteousness".

What is the proof we have received God's Righteousness"?

A.) Born again (Spiritually)>




To "obey the Gospel" is to believe it





Dead faith is a Christianity , a discipleship that is not proving you have faith before other people.
There are no works........no significant change of behavior, that prove to other people that you are a Christian.
So, this one is very carnal, and backslid......but still born again.



If our good works and our trying to be like Christ could save us and keep us saved, then Jesus didnt need to Die on The Cross.

You are Hearing YET NOT Not Listening.

God Believes.
Jesus Believes.
God preached… for man To Believe.
Jesus preached…for man To Believe.

Mans Belief…IS mans FREEWILL CHOICE!

Preaching for man To Freely, Willingly, CHOOSE TO DO the SAME “WORK” God Did, Jesus Did…
“Does Not undermine, change, distract, reinvent, accredit to man…Gods subsequent “works” IN such man.”

We can't become righteous, of ourselves, and to go to Heaven we have to be as righteous as God.

True. I NEVER said or implied otherwise.
Your comment appeared “as if” you were implying…that that was my position.

Dead faith, is not Dead Salvation.

Odd claim.
Faith is a gift From God, for hearing (being Informed) there IS a Creator and Maker Being called the Heavenly God Above All.

The hearing, the Gift of Faith, Applies to “Living” humans.
My young new born deaf daughter did not hear me tell her, even though I did tell her…about God /Jesus…
Did “she” THEN receive Gods Gift of Faith?
At 2 yr she followed along, me reading, she SEEing a child’s picture Bible.
Batteries of Tests, at 3 yr. a single hearing aid, gave her some “sound” but no definition of words, language.
Did she THEN receive Gods “Gift” of Faith?

Gods Gift of FAITH, is His to Give to Each during their life-time in the Amount, Timing, AS God Determines is Best.

It is EXPRESSLY each ALIVE living persons FREEWILL:
to Accept (believe) or Reject …Their Gift.
to Call on the Lords Name…an ANNOUNCE (Testify TO Him, their Acceptance, “or Not”.)


Accept Belief? Ok
Testify of the Acceptance of Belief?
Their Testimony BE Verified..IS TRUE?
(The caveat… CHRIST JESUS at THAT moment shall “save their soul”…

Why? Because, THEY willingly agreed via their True Word, to Give their Mortal Life unto DEATH, For the sake of Their testified Belief.
(Called Crucified with Christ Jesus).

Salvation IS ONLY given a mans SOUL…. AFTER … God has an Accounting of a mans Mortal Death).

A man “Believing”…without Confession…Receives his souls Salvation after his physical mortal death.

Dead faith, is not Dead Salvation.

Odd comment.

No man, receives Salvation “without Faith” “without Belief.”
 

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Mans Belief…IS mans FREEWILL CHOICE!

Every choice is man's free will in operation.

Preaching for man To Freely, Willingly, CHOOSE TO DO the SAME “WORK” God Did, Jesus Did…

Choosing to try to do the works of Jesus, can't save you.
Its just works.
Its just imitation.

Faith is a gift From God,

Salvation is a FREE Gift from God.

Now...The teaching that Faith is the gift, is : a Calvinism Lie.

God does not Give us faith in Christ........God requires from us OUR Faith in Christ.

Paul teaches that ""every person has the measure of Faith""......and what we do with our faith.....is our free will choice to make.

We can place our faith in ALLAH
We can placie our faith in THE Buddha
We can place our faith in the stock market
We can place our faith in Muhammed
We can place our faith in Donald Trump
We can place our faith in Scientology.
We can place our faith in SCIENCE

<OR>

We can place OUR FAITH in Christ and OUR "faith is accepted by God, as Righteousnes".. on our behalf.

"Justification by faith".

Salvation IS ONLY given a mans SOUL…. AFTER … God has an Accounting of a mans Mortal Death).

God's Gift of Salvation is given to "all who call on the name of Jesus".

All who "believe"... John 3:16

A man “Believing”…without Confession…Receives his souls Salvation after his physical mortal death.

What cult teaching are you posting here, ????


No man, receives Salvation “without Faith” “without Belief.”

A sinner's Faith in Christ is required to receive Salvation from God.