How to go to Hell. Pt 1

[Robert Gwin]

John 3:36 defines every unbeliever, both alive, or dead.

People in general, and Christians, many of them, think that a person goes to hell for : "a lifetime of sinning".
Not at all.
See, you'll die "in your sins" if you die a Christ rejector, but that is not why God judges you, after you die.

The reality is, there is only one SIN that God will Judge you for, AFTER you die.
= The Unpardonable sin.
What is that?
Well, you can read Hebrews 10:26 and find a group of Hebrews committing it, as Paul is preaching Jesus to them.

They are committing the unpardonable sin.

= A.) Christ Rejection.

How does that work?

Reader....

Christ is the Pardon. Christ is the Redemption. Christ is the Grace of God. Christ is Salvation. Christ is the Blood Atonement. Christ is Eternal Life.
He is ALL THAT and MORE.

See all that, Reader?
So, if you die rejecting Christ........ notice what you have rejected.

The eternal math works likes this.
If your Reject Pardon, you die un-pardoned.
CHRIST IS THE PARDON. He's God's Forgiveness.
So, if you die a Christ Rejector, = never born again.........

=> You have committed The Unpardonable sin of dying a Christ Rejector, and God will JUDGE YOU.

However, If you have trusted Christ and Christ is in you, and you are born again, "one with God", "the righteousness of God in Christ".....then God can't judge you in Eternity, as you have already solved that eternal judgment on Earth. = born again.
This is why you meet God as YOUR FATHER, and not as your Eternal Judge.

Did you know Be that every person who dies goes to hell? What is great is that their time in it is limited, one day all will be resurrected from it, and it will no longer be needed, so it will be cast into the lake of fire Rev 20:13,14

 

[Behold]

Not true, depends on the conditions given by the gift giver.

Heretics will teach that a Gift from God, has to be earned.
Even common sense teaches that a GIFT, can't be earned.
Where is yours, Titus?
Heretic will NOT Give Jesus the credit do Him alone, for the Salvation that HE gained on the Cross .. that GOD offers as "the gift of Salvation".

The devil would have you believe that a Gift from God, isnt a GIFT...... and you have to earn it or keep it, by WORKS.

 

[Titus]

Behold always uses misrepresentation to deceive others into believing his objectors to his false teaching are teaching heresy. Not once have I ever taught nor do I believe one can earn, merit salvation through works of merit. Behold, it is sad all you can do is tell lies about me.
I will re-post my previous post. It is obvious I do not believe one earns salvation as you claimed.
You will give an answer to God for bearing false witness against me.

Exodus 20:16
- You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

To defend my reputation of what I really teach, please read my post below,

Not true, depends on the conditions given by the gift giver.
Romans 10:13
-For whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.

You now see God requires that we do something to receive this gift. But I need to make this very clear, it has nothing to do with earning or meriting the gift, otherwise it would not be a gift!

A local car dealership is giving away a free car. You cannot earn it because it is a free gift.
But there are conditions that must be met.
You must enter the drawing to win.
The condition to the free gift are,
You must write your name, telephone number, and prove you are a United states citizen.
IF you meet these prerequisites you qualify to win this free gift.

But again, it is still a free gift. Now Gods conditions to receive His free gift are,
You must believe, repent, confess with the mouth that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, be baptized in Jesus' name for the remission of sins.
Once you meet Gods conditions in His gospel you qualify for His free gift.
By believing you have earned nothing.
By repentance you have earned nothing.
By confession you have earned nothong.
By water immersion you have earned nothing.

Remember Ephesians 2:8-9? We receive Gods grace through our faith!
-For by grace you have been saved through faith, it is the gift of God, not of works(merit) lest any should boast.

If we do nothing at all as Behold teaches then you must not believe to be saved, for believing in Christ is doing, changing, obeying God.
Doing nothing is hearing the gospel and not believing not changing your mind or actions with how you are currently living. That is not what we DO when we are saved by Gods grace.

 

[Behold]

Behold always uses misrepresentation to deceive others into believing his objectors to his false teaching are teaching heresy.

You just lied.
Will you do it again.
Listen carefully,

You said... '""Not true, depends on the conditions given by the gift giver."""

And that response was given to my post that said that God's Gift of Salvation, can't be earned.

So, you are teaching that "God's Gift, who is Jesus on the Cross', has "conditions".
This explains why a JW here, loves your post.
However, The Cross of Christ denies your "conditions", as Salvation is a GIFT.
"The GIFT of Salvation".

That you dont agree is something you need to work out, asap.

 

[Titus]

You dont work for a Gift.
You only receive a Gift.

If Behold is correct. Then the Bible is wrong. Here are some examples that contradict Beholds error.

Acts 2:37
-Now when they heard this, they were cut to the heart and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles,
Men and brethren, what shall we DO?

Acts 9:6
-So he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what do you want me to DO? Then the Lord said to him,
Arise and go into the city, and you will be told what YOU MUST DO.

Acts 16:30
-And he brought them out and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
-So they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved.

The gospel requires men do something to receive Gods gift of grace.
But the doing is never meritorious only obeying God.

 

[Behold]

If Behold is correct. Then the Bible is wrong. Here are some examples that contradict Beholds error.

Now you are again stating what you tried to deny, in the last post.
Are you just that dishonest?
Listen....You are publicly denying that Christ's Sacrifice is a Gift from God.
Not a good idea to deny the Cross of Christ, in public.

wake up.<

 

[Titus]

Now you are again stating what you tried to deny, in the last post.
Are you just that dishonest?
Listen....You are publicly denying that Christ's Sacrifice is a Gift from God.
Not a good idea to deny the Cross of Christ, in public.

wake up.<

No in fact I have already taught that Grace is a free gift from God, you simply want to redefine Gods gift to mean without conditions attached to fit your false definition.

I'm giving you the Biblical definition Behold!!!

Again if no conditions to recieve Gods grace as a free gift then do you have to obey the commandment to believe in Jesus?

The only way for you to be correct is for God not to require anything at all from us!
That includes FAITH!

You are confused Behold.

1John 3:23-24
-And this is His commandment that we should believe on the name of His Son Jesus Christ and love one another, as He gave us commandment.

Now you know some gifts have conditions that do not merit the gift being given.

Did you know that one of the conditions to receive Gods grace is we must believe but also love Jesus?

No one can be saved if they only believe but do not love Jesus.

1Corinthians 16:22
-If anyone does not love the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be accursed

 

[Behold]

No in fact I have already taught that Grace is a free gift from God

And that explains why you then also said that not all of God's Gifts are free.. when we are talking only about SALVATION.

So, as i said, be honest, and get your theology together, as its a very bad idea to post that the Cross of Christ is a conditional gift.

Now, if you want to teach that RECEIVING the Gift, has a condition, then that would be appropriate, otherwise, get away from your heresy and get your theology in alignment with John 3:16 and 2 Corinthians 9:15 and Ephesians 2:8

 

[Titus]

And that explains why you then also said that not all of God's Gifts are free.. when we are talking only about SALVATION.

So, as i said, be honest, and get your theology together, as its a very bad idea to post that the Cross of Christ is a conditional gift.

Now, if you want to teach that RECEIVING the Gift, has a condition, then that would be appropriate, otherwise, get away from your heresy and get your theology in alignment with John 3:16 and 2 Corinthians 9:15

Hahaha,
All you do is misrepresent me. That's all you can do!
You know I never said We earn Gods grace.
All you can do is libel.

Let others read our conversation.
Those with honest hearts unlike yourself, can see I do not teach meritorious salvation.
You are a liar, so sad.

 

[Titus]

Not true, depends on the conditions given by the gift giver.
Romans 10:13
-For whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.

You now see God requires that we do something to receive this gift. But I need to make this very clear, it has nothing to do with earning or meriting the gift, otherwise it would not be a gift!

A local car dealership is giving away a free car. You cannot earn it because it is a free gift.
But there are conditions that must be met.
You must enter the drawing to win.
The condition to the free gift are,
You must write your name, telephone number, and prove you are a United states citizen.
IF you meet these prerequisites you qualify to win this free gift.

But again, it is still a free gift. Now Gods conditions to receive His free gift are,
You must believe, repent, confess with the mouth that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, be baptized in Jesus' name for the remission of sins.
Once you meet Gods conditions in His gospel you qualify for His free gift.
By believing you have earned nothing.
By repentance you have earned nothing.
By confession you have earned nothong.
By water immersion you have earned nothing.

Remember Ephesians 2:8-9? We receive Gods grace through our faith!
-For by grace you have been saved through faith, it is the gift of God, not of works(merit) lest any should boast.

If we do nothing at all as Behold teaches then you must not believe to be saved, for believing in Christ is doing, changing, obeying God.
Doing nothing is hearing the gospel and not believing not changing your mind or actions with how you are currently living. That is not what we DO when we are saved by Gods grace.

 

[Behold]

Hahaha,
All you do is misrepresent me. That's all you can do!

I never do that...
What i do is post what the person said, and then watch them scramble to try to get away from their own words.

Notice.....

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• Today at 5:49 AM

You dont work for a Gift. (of Salvation)
You only receive a Gift

Then you said...

""""""Not true, depends on the conditions given by the gift giver.""""


So, if you want to continue to dodge and be dishonest, then help yourself.

 

[Behold]

But again, it is still a free gift. Now Gods conditions to receive His free gift are,
You must believe, repent, confess with the mouth that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, be baptized in Jesus' name for the remission of sins.

Its perfectly correct to believe and teach that the Gift of Salvation, has a condition to receive it.
However, never teach that the Gift itself is conditional.

 

[Titus]

I never do that...
What i do is post what the person said, and then watch them scramble to try to get away from their own words.

Notice.....

____________________________________

• Today at 5:49 AM

Then you said...

""""""Not true, depends on the conditions given by the gift giver.""""


So, if you want to continue to dodge and be dishonest, then help yourself.

Works in your limited understanding must always be merit.
Do you do good works Behold?
You better not because according to you, works that we do can only be meritorious works.

Your ignorance on works is why you make this error.

Works are involved in salvation but never meritorious works!

Faith is something YOU MUST DO TO BE SAVED!

Faith according to God is a work of God that we obey!

Therefore we must work the works of God to recieve Gods free gift.

John 6:28-29
-Thn they said to Him, What shall we DO that we may work the works of God?
Jesus answered and said to them, This is the WORK OF GOD, that you believe in Him whom He sent.

Faith is a work that is a work of obedience not a work of merit!

Your false gospel of no conditions to salvation is refuted by Jesus Himself.

Do you have to believe in Jesus to be saved.
If so that is called a CONDITION of God.

 

[Titus]

Its perfectly correct to believe and teach that the Gift of Salvation, has a condition to receive it.
However, never teach that the Gift itself is conditional.

If Gods gift is not based on Conditions then Everyone will be saved

 

[Behold]

Do you do good works Behold?

Not to try to save myself.
Im not a Cross rejecting heretic who would try to do that, Titus.

See, i understand that God's Salvation, is not my work, but its only the finished work of Christ on the Cross that is a FREE GIFT of Salvation.

Why do you think it is that a HERETIC can never accept this or believe this, Titus?

 

[Titus]

And that explains why you then also said that not all of God's Gifts are free.. when we are talking only about SALVATION.

This above quote from you is a lie. Quote me where I said not all of Gods gifts are free?
Conditions are attached to free gifts Behold. Its a fact of life.

Free car, conditions to win the free car, must give name, phone number and proof of citizenship.
According to Behold the gift is not free but earned!
You do not understand works in the new testament gospel.

 

[Titus]

Not to try to save myself.
Im not a Cross rejecting heretic who would try to do that, Titus.

See, i understand that God's Salvation, is not my work, but its only the finished work of Christ on the Cross that is a FREE GIFT of Salvation.

Why do you think it is that a HERETIC can never accept this or believe this, Titus?

O really? You admit you do good works.
You are teaching we can dis-obey Gods commandments and be saved!

That is your heretical false gospel Beyond!

Can we get to heaven by not obeying the direct commandment of Jesus?
Acts 10:47-48
-And he commanded them to be baptized....

Now we will see who is teaching heresy.
Can you dis-obey Gods commandments and be saved by your faith alone?
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[Titus]

Not to try to save myself.
Im not a Cross rejecting heretic who would try to do that, Titus.

See, i understand that God's Salvation, is not my work, but its only the finished work of Christ on the Cross that is a FREE GIFT of Salvation.

Why do you think it is that a HERETIC can never accept this or believe this, Titus?

Quote from Behold, "not to try to save myself"
You don't teach Bible Behold, you teach a unbiblical gospel.
Acts 2:40
-And with many other words did he testify and exhort saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.

You think I'm going to believe you did not obey the commandment to believe to be saved from your sins?

 

[Behold]

O really? You admit you do good works.

-

Not to try to stay saved.
My good works are my Discipleship, not my Salvation.

 

[Titus]

Not to try to stay saved.
My good works are my Discipleship, not my Salvation.

Answer my question, can you dis-obey the commandment to be water baptized and be saved by faith alone, or must you do good works?