Ferris Bueller
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I noticed that, too, lol.Reread your first two lines . You and your church are the ones guilty of this
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I noticed that, too, lol.Reread your first two lines . You and your church are the ones guilty of this
Uh, no...No one can say biblically that they are saved until the hour of death!
Matt 24:13 and 20 other verses
That is one thing i have noticed that all men who are contrary to the truth in any denomationI noticed that, too, lol.
The person who does not have faith is not born again. It doesn’t matter if they never had it or lost it. Either way they are not saved. They are not born again.
You say people are boasting about their faith just like one would boast about works. .
The heresy is saying those who stop believing are still saved. T
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. You are an unbeliever, and unbelievers do not inherit the kingdom..
2By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain." 1 Corinthians 15:1-2
"24As for you, let what you have heard from the beginning remain in you. If it does, you will also remain in the Son and in the Father. 25And this is the promise that He Himself made to us: eternal life.26I .
Believing in the blood of Christ for the forgiveness of sin and continuing to believe in it is how a person doesn't go to hel.
"2By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you." 1 Corinthians 15:2
This is funny.First of all, "if you have believed in VAIN"........is not a person who was saved , then lost again.
You are completely ignorant of the passage. IN CONTEXT to hold firmly to the word that Paul preached to them means to hold firmly to the gospel of a risen savior. To not believe in a risen savior, or if Christ really hasn't been raised from dead, is a vain belief. To believe that Christ is not risen is to believe in vain. All you have to do is read the passage and this is all explained right there. I don't where you're getting this stuff about them not really believing. The passage says the exact opposite, and plainly explains what is potentially vain about their believing.To hold firmly to the word......is to have not believed in vain.
This means, that your faith you gave to God was real.....It is not the "and the word fell on stoney ground"...type of emotional experience.
Its not a "campfire conversion", in other words....
If its that type of "faith"...., then you have believed in vain.
I don't care about the OSAS argument, for or against. It's a meaningless contention. Sometimes interesting, but meaningless and impractical. What matters, what counts is that you are presently believing. For Paul plainly says that you are presently saved if you are presently believing. That's what we are to seek to be sure we are doing. This junk about not believing and somehow being saved in that state of rejecting Christ is pure heresy. I do consider it a doctrine of devils. It's so outrageous, yet so widely embraced that I have to conclude that it is energized by lying spirits at work in the world. A clear minded, level headed person, uninfluenced by dark powers would instantly reject such a ridiculous, ear tickling doctrine. What a joke - unbelievers who are saved."faith is accepted as Righteousness', ONE TIME....and you are born again....ONE TIME.
You can never stop being Born again.
"1Now, brothers, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received, and in which you stand firm. .
You are completely ignorant of the passage. IN CONTEXT to hold firmly to the word that Paul preached to them means to hold firmly to the gospel of a risen savior.
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I don't care about the OSAS argument,
A clear minded, level headed person, uninfluenced by dark powers would instantly reject such a ridiculous, ear tickling doctrine. What a joke - unbelievers who are saved.
Reread your first two lines . You and your church are the ones guilty of this , Yet you accuse me .
Yalls church has made this very claim , ONLY YE CAN KNOW THE TRUTH THROUGH US , WE ARE THE ONLY CHURCH
THEY put themselves in the stead of GOD and yet DENY the GOD of that bible through their own traditions .
I never claimed i was the only arbriter of TRUTH . I SIMPLY POINT TO HE who IS and to HIS HOLY BOOK that bible
where all would grow wise unto salvation through faith in CHRIST . Yalls church is the ONE GUILTY of what
you are desperately trying to accuse me of ....
I POINT TO THE JESUS OF SAID BIBLE , TO THE GOD of said bible . THE RCC says men like me are lost
cause i am not of them . THEY SOLD you all a bill of goods my friend . THEY are guilty of this very thing .
But you cannot see it . You simply trust them at their every word . WHEREAS I read that bible
and i test all men who do speak . YOU are in dire and grave danger my friend . Your guilty of what you accuse me of ,
YET i never pointed to me , I POINTED to CHRIST , TO GOD , and told folks LEARN that BIBLE FOR YOURSELVES .
Rather odd what JOHN told the church . HE said i write these things that YE MAY KNOW , AS IN KNOW that ye have eternal life .
Now if folks dont continue in Christ , then yah they gonna wail on that day .
WHERE is your faith then . It must be in your own works . AS FOR ME , I KNOW I am saved ,
cause i believe in CHRIST JESUS who already did all that was needful for me to be saved .
I already know that a hearer only has decieved themselves , but soo too has the one who
has no TRUST IN JESUS CHRIST as the absolute and only means by which one can be saved .
YOU are in dire andgrave danger . NOW i already remind all to also CONTINUE IN CHRIST TO THE END .
BUT where is your faith . Cause it dont sound like its in CHRIST at all . COME YE OUT OF THE CC
and NO i aint pointing you to the protestant realm either . TOO many of them have long tanked .
OPEN BIBLE , READ BIBLE , LOVE THOSE WORDS , LEARN that CHRIST , learn HIS doctrine
Learn the apostles doctrine . AND as i always tell ya , TEST ALL MEN .