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Then your "gold, silver and bronze" statement is a LIE because the following insurance report states that the annual numbers are MUCH higher among Protestants than that report about Catholics in Pennsylvania . . .

Report: Protestant Church Insurers Handle 260 Sex Abuse Cases a Year

I think you confuse Priests supposedly forbidden from having sexual relations with women....(and kiddos and other men)...

With Women and men having consensual affairs with Protestant clergy.

It is not always abuse of person to person...
But is "abuse" against children.
And is "abuse" against the Office the clergy holds.

And sorry dude, but Catholic Priests get the blue ribbon for abuse against children.

Glory to God,
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Thankyou. You have articulated clearly and succinctly the truth in a manner we wish we could have all done a long time ago, and which we are do frustrated that people such as BOL CAN'T SEE IT.
Denial and confabulation are bed buddies....once that pattern is consistent a man has established his measure.
 
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Denial and confabulation are bed buddies....once that pattern is consistent a man has established his measure.
The greatest want of the world is the want of men—men who will not be bought or sold, men who in their inmost souls are true and honest, men who do not fear to call sin by its right name, men whose conscience is as true to duty as the needle to the pole, men who will stand for the right though the heavens fall. EGW
 

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ya, that's prolly a good one. My mom is firmly into this money as seed thing, such a crime imo. Such a waste.

And a crime which works !!!
But, if we believe that what we sow we reap...those who are ripping people off will be the losers... God is never fooled ...
 

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No? Improper response. I never said you did!

That is a Clever claim....
Negative ~ against Protestants
Negative ~ against Cat. Church abomination
Negative ~ against Prot Church abomination

And what is it you are complaining about?
Protestants will not join your negativity...

Your false claim.
No, my children are not being violated.
You want to give your view of an anti-Protestant, complaints against Protestant clergy, Start a thread, and give your anti-Protestant views, and give the facts of the Protestant clergy you are against....

THEN see IF your claim is VALID, as you claim Protestants IGNORE a revealed problem.

YOU WAKE UP ~
Umpteen children, women, nuns, REMAINED IN the Catholic Church, AFTER BEING ABUSED by Catholic Priests.

Get real. Cover up and silence has been the historical and long running mode of operation of the Catholic Church.

Really? LOL
Fascinating!
Glory to God,
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Another hypocritical anti-Catholic living in denial- what a surprise.
And make no mistake - they ARE your Protestant children . . .
 

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LOL, huh?

Her savior "preserved" her FROM SIN?

If she were WITHOUT original SIN, she wouldn't have HAD A Savior.

Jesus had NO NEED of a Savior.
God had NO NEED of a Savior.

Mary was a Created terrestrial.
She like ALL born in SIN, require a Savior to become Saved FROM Sin.

Weird!

Glory to God,
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Mary was born without Original Sin BECAUSE of her Savior, Einstein.
NOT that difficult to grasp . . .

Matt. 19:26
“With man this is impossible, but with God ALL things are possible.
 

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I think you confuse Priests supposedly forbidden from having sexual relations with women....(and kiddos and other men)...
With Women and men having consensual affairs with Protestant clergy.
It is not always abuse of person to person...
But is "abuse" against children.
And is "abuse" against the Office the clergy holds.
And sorry dude, but Catholic Priests get the blue ribbon for abuse against children.
Glory to God,
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Ummmm, I think NOT.
Data from the link I provided . . .

"The three companies that insure the majority of Protestant churches in America say they typically receive upward of 260 reports each year of young people under 18 being sexually abused by clergy, church staff, volunteers or congregation members."

WAKE UP . . .
 

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Look at the DATE of the study, Einsten.
The Pew Research study mentioned is almost 4 years old . . .

I'm GLAD you brought up the fact that child rape is NOT the same as legal consensual sex because MUCH of the priestly scandal revolves around homosexual affairs and pederasty - NOT pedophilia.

Do your HOMEWORK, Einstein . . .
So, you post as "evidence" for your claim of "study after study" .... an article that says the OPPOSITE, instead of an article that actually proves your claim of "study after study"? And yet you refer to me as "Einstein"? LOL

Dead Bread, just so the facts remain as such: YOU claimed that 38% of Protestant clergy are involved in child sex abuse, and yet YOU misrepresented that statistic! The statistic actually refers to "legal but inappropriate sexual misconduct" among Protestant clergy (adultery, pornography, etc.), so why did you misrepresent that statistic to this majority Protestant online discussion board, while the facts prove that CATHOLIC CLERGY are continuously being found guilty of raping and enabling the rape of children????
  • Was it because you wish to undermine Protestant clergy who preach the truth of the Bible, faith, and Christ alone, which condemns the false catholic gospel gathered up from the heaps of the Roman dunghill of decretals?
  • Was it because you wish to cast dispersion upon Protestantism at large?
  • Was it because you wish the world's attention to be deflected away from the one papal scandal after next of child rape and child rape enabling papists which you so passionately defend?
It's a good thing that you as a papist are the recipient of degrees of tolerance by our Protestant moderators for your lies about Protestantism that papists not now nor ever were willing to afford us Protestants because you'd have been long gone by now. That alone should wake you up from the Satanic deception that emanates from the papal Antichrist power in Rome.
 

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Mary was born without Original Sin BECAUSE of her Savior, Einstein.
NOT that difficult to grasp . . .

Matt. 19:26
“With man this is impossible, but with God ALL things are possible.
Another hypocritical anti-Catholic living in denial- what a surprise.
And make no mistake - they ARE your Protestant children . . .

Typical anti-Protestant response.
 

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Mary was born without Original Sin

Typical anti-Scriptural Catholic claim.


While Scripture says "ALL have sinned",
Rom 5:12

Catholics teach otherwise.

Matt. 19:26
“With man this is impossible, but with God ALL things are possible.

It is possible for God to make a corrupt man Wholly Whole and Holy.

It is not possible for God to Lie, as mans false teaching turns the truth of God into a Lie.

Glory to God,
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Ummmm, I think NOT.
Data from the link I provided . . .

"The three companies that insure the majority of Protestant churches in America say they typically receive upward of 260 reports each year of young people under 18 being sexually abused by clergy, church staff, volunteers or congregation members."

WAKE UP . . .

Yes the Protestants Churches have been forthright in exposing complaints.

And the Catholic Churches have been hiding and covering up complaints.

Duh...that is part of the complaints against the Church by Catholics!

Glory to God,
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And WHO do you think "preserved" her from sin, Einstein??
GOD, her SAVIOR - just as she acknowledged . . .
Excuse me, papist, but if someone is preserved from something, that means they've never been subject to its effects.

Since Jesus was so named "for He will save His people from THEIR (possessive plural pronoun indicating ownership of sin),

...and since Mary referred to Jesus as "God MY Savior" (possessive singular pronoun indicating ownership on sin)

...that proves that she needed saving from the death penalty of sin

...and was NOT "preserved from all stain of original sin."
 

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Excuse me, papist, but if someone is preserved from something, that means they've never been subject to its effects.

Since Jesus was so named "for He will save His people from THEIR (possessive plural pronoun indicating ownership of sin),

...and since Mary referred to Jesus as "God MY Savior" (possessive singular pronoun indicating ownership on sin)

...that proves that she needed saving from the death penalty of sin

...and was NOT "preserved from all stain of original sin."


He is brainwashed, and holds on to False teachings ABOVE the Word of God.

He quotes "God can do all things" ~ without consideration of knowledge there ARE things God Cannot do BECAUSE they are things AGAINST His own Word.

God can not "reproduce".
God can not "lie".
God can not "change".
God can not "tire".
God can not "break a promise".
God can not "stand against Himself".

Glory to God,
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Secrets ~NETWORK of the LIKEMINDED
Secrets ~MARK YOUR PREY

Priests giving gold crosses for their boy toys to wear, informing their network of other priests which boys are prime targets.

Disgusting!

Parents who Care ~ Beware!

Nothing is Secret from God.

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Are you still arguing !!!!
Personally ANY sexual abuse is wrong, why does it have to be a Protestant verse catholic thing - it doesn't matter who has committed more wrong, surely it's not about numbers, but about the issue itself.
It seems that the issue here is everyone trying to out do someone else so that they can stand on a platform and claim the prize of being right !
Think Jesus would bash your heads together for going on and on and on and on ...........
Rita
 
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Are you still arguing !!!!
Personally ANY sexual abuse is wrong, why does it have to be a Protestant verse catholic thing - it doesn't matter who has committed more wrong, surely it's not about numbers, but about the issue itself.
It seems that the issue here is everyone trying to out do someone else so that they can stand on a platform and claim the prize of being right !
Think Jesus would bash your heads together for going on and on and on and on ...........
Rita

I don't see anyone claiming sexual abuse is okay, nor is that being argued.

I dispute having another make false claims, by speaking for me, things I did not claim, and will contest them, whether that appeals to you or not.

And no I do not agree with you, that bashing heads together is anything Jesus Himself said He would do.

Glory to God,
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Are you still arguing !!!!
Personally ANY sexual abuse is wrong, why does it have to be a Protestant verse catholic thing - it doesn't matter who has committed more wrong, surely it's not about numbers, but about the issue itself.
It seems that the issue here is everyone trying to out do someone else so that they can stand on a platform and claim the prize of being right !
Think Jesus would bash your heads together for going on and on and on and on ...........
Rita

I think they just can’t find anything better to do, Rita...:D,
 

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Wow, I had no idea about all this, I have heard people talk about purgatory but never had any teaching on the subject and often wondered why or how it came to be part of the belief system within some churches.
Sounds like an interesting book Willie - I have often wondered about how things developed, heard a sermon once on ' going back to the first moment ' , how if you trace a theme or subject back to the original it helps you to understand why things were applied or changed and how it can give you an understanding of why you do something now. It also laid the foundations for challenging why you do something now and if it is just routine or relevant anymore. I believe that was the moment when I started to question why we did certain things in church ........
Rita
The point is that if we are trusting in the intercession of the Lord Jesus (Hebrews 7; Romans 8) because of His finished work at the Cross (Hebrews 9 and 10), then purgatory for sins has already happened to perfection on the Cross. :)
 
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I don't see anyone claiming sexual abuse is okay, nor is that being argued.

I dispute having another make false claims, by speaking for me, things I did not claim, and will contest them, whether that appeals to you or not.

And no I do not agree with you, that bashing heads together is anything Jesus Himself said He would do.

Glory to God,
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The bit about Jesus bashing heads was tongue in cheek !!!
However I do wonder whether he rolls his eyes at some of us sometimes x