Imagine if we Christians would send off our fallen brethren

[biggandyy]

As awesomely as the Kiwi Infantry does:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xI6TRTBZUMM

Sometimes I don't think there are that many serious Christians in the world today, and I include myself in that sorry list.

 

[Angelina]

The Haka is a deeply spiritual outward expression of emotions and thought combined with action. Only men lead perform Haka and If you have ever had the privilege of seeing one live, you will never forget the experience... :huh:

kia kaha, kia toa, kia manawanui,"
Be strong, Be brave, Be patient and Take Heart.


Blessings!!!

 

[biggandyy]

Imagine if a Christian felt as deeply about a fallen fellow believer...

I would love to experience a Haka... I shed tears when I am present for a 21 gun salute to an American serviceman being honored at their burial and as the honor guard fold the flag for their fallen comrade to present to the family.

 

[Angelina]

Indeed Andy, I agree...it would be awesome to send our brethren home in a manner that is fitting as a soldier of Christ. I hope one day you will experience a Haka as well...I always cry when one is performed, specially for funerals. :unsure:

Bless ya!

 

[Arnie Manitoba]

I just dont get the video , or the shouting ritual , or the language , or the purpose .... can someone please explain it for me ... is this a military thing , or a spiritual thing or what ..... thanks

 

[Angelina]

Andy was just pointing out the various ways that our countries honor comrades who have fallen during military action or when on duty and wished that we had some kind of similar thing to honor our brother's and sisters in Christ.

It is very difficult to explain a culture in a post unless you have spent time in this country. The Haka is a cultural thing [just as the American servicemen saluting their comrades with the 21 gun salute is a cultural thing]

There are various kinds of Haka performed according to the occasion. You may have watched the NZ AllBlacks play international Rugby. They will always begin with a Haka.The purpose is to challenge and psyche out their opponent. [It is a war challenge]

The NZ army and other military forces also perform the Haka to farewell their comrades. It is a deep outward expression of their loss put to action. The language is indigenous to NZ [Maori].

Shalom!!!

 

[Rex]

Here are the words of the black Haka
http://rugby-worlds.blogspot.com/2007/09/new-zealand-all-blacks-explain-meaning.html

All Black Haka words:
Ka mate! Ka mate! Ka ora! Ka ora!
Ka mate! Ka mate! Ka ora! Ka ora!
Tenei te tangata puhuru huru
Nana nei i tiki mai
Whakawhiti te ra
A upa … ne! ka upa … ne!
A upane kaupane whiti te ra!
Hii…

All Black Haka Translation
I die! I die! I live! I live!
I die! I die! I live! I live!
This is the hairy man
Who fetched the Sun
And caused it to shine again
One upward step! Another upward step!
An upward step, another.. the Sun shines!!

KAPA O PANGO
Kia Whakawhenua Au I Ahau
Hi Aue, Hi!!
Ko Aotearoa E Ngunguru Nei!
Au, Au, Aue Ha!
Ka Kapa O Pango E Ngunguru Nei!
Au, Au, Aue Ha!
I Ahaha!
Ka Tu Te Ihihi
Ka Tu Te Wanawana
Ki Runga Ki Te Rangi E Tu Iho Nei, Tu Iho Nei, Hi!
Ponga Ra!
Kapa O Pango, Aue Hi!
Ponga Ra!
Kapa O Pango, Aue Hi, Ha!

English Translation
Let me become one with the land
This is our land that rumbles
And it’s my time! It’s my moment!
This defines us as the All Blacks
It’s my time! It’s my moment!
Our dominance
Our supremacy will triumph
And we will be placed on high
Silver fern!
All Blacks!
Silver fern!
All Blacks!

Haka was practiced by the Maori
Maori
1. A member of a people of New Zealand, of Polynesian-Melanesian descent.

It is said to be the Maori war dance but I'm sure their are different opinions.


It would seem the infantry Haka is very similar
Translation for the OP video is printed here.
http://sofrep.com/11078/new-zealand-troops-maori-haka/


Leader:

Ringa pakia!



Slap the hands against the thighs!



Uma tiraha!



Puff out the chest.



Turi whatia!



Bend the knees!



Hope whai ake!



Let the hip follow!



Waewae takahia kia kino!



Stomp the feet as hard as you can!









Leader:

Ka mate, ka mate



I die, I die,

Team:

Ka ora’ Ka ora’



I live, I live

Leader:

Ka mate, ka mate



I die, I die,

Team:

Ka ora Ka ora “



I live, I live,

All:

Tēnei te tangata pūhuruhuru



This is the hairy man



Nāna i tiki mai whakawhiti te rā



…Who caused the sun to shine again for me



A Upane! Ka Upane!



Up the ladder, Up the ladder



Upane Kaupane”



Up to the top



Whiti te rā,!



The sun shines!



Hī!



Rise

Read more: http://sofrep.com/11078/new-zealand-troops-maori-haka/#ixzz2GZvfzmyr

 

[Arnie Manitoba]

Thanks for the explainations .... it confirms my original impression that it was some kind of pagan ritual that has an angry tone to it..... thus my confusion how it could relate to a christian send-off

Most of the Christian funerals I have attended are much more positive and uplifting than 21-gun salutes , or pagan native dances.

Best wishes

 

[biggandyy]

Then you have never been to a veteran's funeral, otherwise you would have keep your ill informed and rude post to yourself.