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Discussion in 'Eschatology & Prophecy Forum' started by Behold, Jul 10, 2020.

  1. Waiting on him

    Waiting on him Well-Known Member

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    Ecclesiastes 3:18 KJV
    I said in mine heart concerning the estate of the sons of men, that God might manifest them, and that they might see that they themselves are beasts.
     
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    Waiting on him Well-Known Member

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    If you'll take some time to read through the post that are all over this forum you may possibly see that the religious have been calling out to a false god in hopes he will carry them away in some form of an alleged rapture. This in my opinion is a pseudo christ.

    Look at the similarities, same as when Jesus climbed the mountains of Judea. The egotistical religious stating Jesus will place me in authority,he's gonna come pick me up on the space pod, wisp me away and I'll reign for evermore?
     
  3. Davy

    Davy Well-Known Member

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    Yep. That's the general scenario, except you didn't really mention war as another tool.

    They know the virus was manufactured in a lab.

    The great tribulation is just around the corner, really.
     
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    Guestman Active Member

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    There have been much effort of trying to identify "the antichrists" with certain individuals, such as Pompey, Nero, or Muhammad (this latter person being named by Pope Innocent III in 1213 C.E.) or with a specific organization, as the in the Protestant view of "the antichrist" as applying to the papacy.

    But how many have read carefully what the apostle John wrote in about 98 C.E., that gives us a glimpse of what the antichrist is ? How many grasp what the word "antichrist" really means ? To start off, apparently almost none, but have the same misguided view that it is still coming, or applies to a specific individual.

    The apostle John wrote: "Young children, it is the last hour (last hour of what ? The moments before the "weeds" or imitation Christians ["tares", King James Bible] overtake genuine Christians or the "wheat", effectively strangling them until the "harvest season" or our time frame since 1914 C.E., see Matt 13:24-30), and just as you have heard that the antichrists is coming (in the first century C.E., not waiting until now), even now many antichrists have appeared, from which fact we know that it is the last hour (before full blown apostasy of the Christian congregation occurs and imitation Christians almost completely snuff out true Christianity). They went out from us, but they were not of our sort; for if they had been of our sort, they would have remained with us. But they went out so that it might be shown that not all are of our sort".(1 John 2:18, 19)

    So, what can be learned from John's words ? First off, John establishes that the antichrists came from within the Christian congregation, "but they went out from us", pushing religious teachings and practices that are not Christian, such as starting to promote a "clergy-laity class" in about 110 C.E.(see Jesus words at Matt 23:8-10), the Trinity that became an established teaching of imitation Christianity by the end of the 4th century C.E. (see Jesus words at John 14:1, 28, whereby he distinguishes himself from God, as well as being called "the only-begotten Son of God", not "God the Son", whereby "begotten" means to have a father, see John 3:16, as well as Gal 4:14 whereby Jesus is shown as an angel), that Jesus died on a cross rather than recognizing he died on a torture stake.(see Deut 21:22, 23 that explains that Jesus had to die on a stake to fulfill his role as an "accursed one" for the Jews, see Gal 3:13), "hellfire" or "hell" that is an inaccurate translation of three Greek words (Hades [Rev 20:13], Gehenna (Matt 5:30] and Tartarus [2 Pet 2:4]) and one Hebrew word of Sheol.(see Ps 16:10 in the King James Bible, which says that Jesus went to "hell" when he died; see Peter quoting from Ps 16:10 at Acts 2:27, 31)

    It further needs to be understood what the word "antichrist" means, that of "against (or instead of) Christ", so that the antichrists are anyone who supplants true Christianity with fake Christianity (see the apostle Paul's words at Galatians 1:6-9), slipping themselves in place of Jesus Christ as speaking for him, telling falsehoods so that they are "against" him, and (2) that the antichrists were already beginning to grow within the Christian congregation when John penned his first letter in about 98 C.E.

    John's inspired words shows the term of antichrist to be broad in its application, embracing all those who deny that "Jesus is the Christ", and who deny that he is the Son of God who came "in the flesh", which the Trinity doctrine denies, saying that Jesus is God instead of the Son of God.(Note: this is where the meaning "instead" comes into play)

    John’s statement at 1 John 2:18, 19 shows that there are many individual antichrists, though all together they may form a composite person designated “the antichrist.” (see 2 John 7 in which John writes: "For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those not acknowledging Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh [such as ones who say that Jesus is "fully God and fully man", for Jesus said to the Samaritan woman at the well that "God is a Spirit", not a man of flesh and blood, John 4:24]. This is the deceiver and the antichrist")

    But now lets consider 2 Thessalonians 2 in conjunction "the antichrists", which describes that before "the day of Jehovah", that "the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness gets revealed, the son of destruction".(2 Thess 2:2, 3)

    This "man of lawlessness" is that which "stands in opposition and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he sits down in the temple of God, publicly showing himself to be a god".(2 Thess 2:4) So, who is this "man of lawlessness" that places himself above every one else, wanting others to believe that he is "a god" ? Who has honorific titles that makes him be looked on as "a god" ? The religious leaders of Christendom who have such titles as Pope (meaning "papa"), Reverend, Right Reverend, Most Right Reverend, the Very Reverend, Most Reverend Bishop (or Archbishop), Father, Reverend Father, Monsignor (that means "my lord"), Bishop (that comes from the Greek word episkopos that means "overseer"), Archbishop (or one who is really high on the ladder of the Vatican) and Cardinal, etc.

    These are the ones who want glory for themselves, putting on display of piousness. These are the ones who are as Isaiah 66:5 says: "They say, ' Keep to yourself; do not approach me, for I am holier than you" and of which Jehovah God says: "These are a smoke in my nostrils, a fire burning all day long", showing how angry he is with such ones and that he will deal with them by means of the political "ten horns", all the member nations of the United Nations.(Rev 17:12, 16, 17)

    Jesus said that these are the ones, as the religious leaders of Christendom, who feel that they will be "first" to receive a blessing from God, but are in fact, "last" (Matt 20:16), telling his disciples an illustration of "the master of the house who went out early in the morning to hire workers for his vineyard.....for a denarius a day".(Matt 20:1, 2)

    The first workers (or 12 hour workers) were hired (which represented the Jewish religious leaders serving at first the tabernacle and then the temple [that was completed in 1027 B.C.E.] and continued to do so until the arrival of the Messiah in 29 C.E.).

    Then all during the day, this "master of the house" (the "master of the house" or owner of the "vineyard" is Jehovah God) kept hiring workers to work in his vineyard (the "vineyard" represented the nation of Israel that was to be "cultivated" by the Jewish religious leaders, see Isa 5:1, 2, 7) till at the 11th hour, some more workers were hired.(Matt 20:6, 7)

    These 11th hour workers were those that came to be Jesus disciples from 29 C.E onward, and of which Jesus told the Jewish religious leaders this illustration about 2 children, in which the "first" declined their father's command to "go work today in the vineyard", replying "I will not, but afterward.....felt regret and went out", while the second child said "I will" but did not go out.(Matt 21:28-30)

    So, Jesus now asks "the chief priests and elders of the people" (Matt 21:23): "Which of the two did the will of the father ?" to which they had to respond "the first", and to which Jesus now tells the Jewish religious leaders: "Truly I say to you that the tax collectors and the prostitutes (both of which were considered as "sinners", ones to avoid) are going ahead of you (making the Jewish religious leaders "last" or not at all, being rejected by Jehovah God) into the Kingdom of God. For John came to you in a way of righteousness, but you did not believe him. However, the tax collectors and the prostitutes believed him, and even when you saw this, you did not feel regret afterward so as to believe him".(Matt 21:31, 32)

    Hence, the religious leaders of Christendom are "the man of lawlessness" who will be "last", being "revealed" as the one "whom the Lord Jesus will do away by the spirit of his mouth and bring to nothing by the manifestation of his presence".(2 Thess 2:8)

    On the other hand, those who who honor Jehovah (1 Sam 2:30) are the ones who will be "first", receiving everlasting life, either in heaven as "king and priests" (Rev 5:9, 10) or the paradise earth as "meek" ones (Ps 37:11, 29; Matt 5:5) as their "reward" for doing his will.(Matt 7:21) So the "antichrists" are all those who have accepted Christendom's false teachings and practices, with its religious leaders, "the man of lawlessness" promoting such falsehoods from their pulpit.
     
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  5. 2 Chr. 34:19

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    Deeds of the nicolatians
     
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    Which is why I chose NKJV-choose life :)
     
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    Are you a JW? Ps. This post was very long
     
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    Keep your eye on Israel.
    "War" that is related to WW III will be found related to Israel.
     
  9. Davy

    Davy Well-Known Member

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    Any kind of war between nations that happens in our near future will not be the battle of Armageddon. The battle of Armageddon really isn't about war; it is about the final battle of this present earth age by Jesus and His army on the day of His 2nd coming. That won't really be a war, but a battle, and one that His enemies won't have a chance of winning.

    So the kind of war idea for the end I'm talking about is a fake war that will precede the 'end' which will be a time of world peace. The tribulation is not about war, it will be a time of peace (though a false peace), as I have shown from Scripture like 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3, Mark 13:7, and Daniel 8:23-25.
     
  10. Bobby Jo

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    You present this as though we can't know ANYTHING regarding Jesus' return. So are you intentionally adding to Scripture, or have you been duped into a FALSE DOCTRINE, and now wish to repent for believing that DECEPTION?

    Scripture appears to be CLEAR regarding the YEAR; and the FEASTS apparently indicate the WEEK. So now we can obey our Scriptural anticipation:

    1 Thess. 5:2 For you yourselves know well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. 3 When people say, “There is peace and security,” then sudden destruction will come upon them as travail comes upon a woman with child, and there will be no escape. 4 But you are not in darkness, brethren, for that day to surprise you like a thief.


    ... or be SURPRISED.
    Bobby Jo
     
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    Certainly we seek information to better comprehend our world, but it's difficult for me to fathom that mature Christians are as ignorant as they are. Do these individuals simply listen to a HIRELING? Don't they search the Scriptures so that GOD can speak to them DIRECTLY? And if so, then why is the identity of the a/c a mystery? Why are SO MANY Scriptural aspects STILL MYSTERIES?

    And who, in their right mind, would accuse the "Pope" as a candidate for the a/c. -- What kind of idiots do they listen to?!?
    Bobby Jo
     
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    If you can find the nose on your face, you should be able to identify the a/c.

    ... Or not ...
    Bobby Jo
     
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    I didnt say that what is going to be happening soon is the BOA..
    I said to watch Israel.
    Isreal is always key regarding the end times..
    Keep your eye on the USA economy and Israel.
     
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    Do you understand fractional reserve lending which drives the world economy. It works by trust, but too big a shock it all falls apart. It is a human way to convey value.

    Spiritualisizing this too much is not wise. If and when the anti Christ arises, it will be obvious. God bless you
     
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    The main thing to keep in mind, for the last generation, is that if a supernatural Messiah shows up working great signs and wonders, raining fire down on the earth from heaven in the sight of men, and we haven't been 'changed' to the "spiritual body" at the "twinkling of an eye" like Apostle Paul taught, then know that supernatural one is a fake-Christ.
     
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    Why don't you know? It's so simple a fifth grader could understand, but the "church" is deaf, dumb (as in "stupid"), and blind.

    Bobby Jo
     
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    No, im just presenting an idea of How to understand the REASON the Devil is going to show up.
    You've never been taught this before, by "end time" preachers, as they are too caught up in teaching about signs and so forth.
    I don't teach it that way, because if you teach it that way, you get lost inside a rabbit hole of symbolism.
    This is why "end time" teachers can't agree.
    I bypass all that and show you what to look for as the REASON the "son of perdition" would need = so that He HAS to show up.

    I dont need you to think about the signs and symbols, so i teach how to think of it logically and with wisdom.

    1.) The Devil is coming to run the world.

    2.) WHY ????

    See that?
    Thats a much more logical way to realize the coming of the Devil, that is also to understand it spiritually.
    God does not mind at all if we use Logic, common sense, and wisdom.
     
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    Or you could just look for a worldwide Global economic collapse that is brought in by a virus and a world war or maybe just a world war or just a virus, and as people are starving and have no money that has even the value to buy a bottle of water, ... Someone is going to come in and "save them".
    Look for that Guy... But look for him from the Sky, as we, the born again, wont be here when that "devil" shows up.
     
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    We aren't going anywhere until Jesus comes and that change at the twinkling of an eye happens. That change of 1 Cor.15 is required in order for us to be "caught up" to Jesus. The coming pseudo-Christ can't do that. Jesus showed His coming to gather His Church is after the tribulation (Matthew 24:29-31; Mark 13:24-27). So the idiotic pre-trib rapture junk isn't from God's Word, it is from Satan's host.
     
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    You deny Revelation 6? How many times is the Lamb going to appear? Which time will it be a surprise?
     
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