Is it time for Christians to become more accepting towards muslims in politics?

[pastor marty]

Pastor Marty gave you a like.
The problem is that there ARE liberal Christians.
Who are they?
Those that believe abortion is OK in many cases.
Those that believe SS marriage is OK.

It's the same as in the secular world.
Honestly, I don't really know how anyone could be a liberal AND be a Christian.

In the old days, maybe in the 50's and before, it meant a type of govt that believed in equality for all. It's different today. There are lines drawn...important beliefs one has to agree with. ****Abortion/Euthanasia****I'm on crack/got aids/ultrasound shows the fetus's got no appendages/ & life expectancy is 5 yrs. tops after multiple agonizing surjuries ? YES (I make exceptions)(GOD forgives)Now then;;same sex legal partners ? why not/they are gonna do it anyway/so OK/marriage inna Church/ Biblical sense/NO ! NO! NO! I don't bash fags/don't puke on my faith !! <m>

I'll bet you just never thought of this or have been exposed to it.
It was pretty shocking to me when I learned of it...

 

[pastor marty]

U hit the bullseye ! 2 easy 2 say anything/B everybodys pal/and do nothing but smile & collect yer paycheck

 

[Stranger]

Well, they can say that but when liberals agree with same sex marriages, abortion, etc they will have a hard time convincing people that they are holding onto biblical Christianity.......

I agree. And that is the key...a Biblical Christianity. They, the liberal christianity, will center on the goodness of man and the love of Jesus. And at times it goes to the degree that the Jesus they depict is foreign to the Christ of the Bible.

Stranger

 

[Stranger]

Jesus was certainly not part of right wing or left wing Christianity. Men brought it upon themselves in secular politics and also in Christendom. It ought not to so, but it is. Being like Jesus is where we need to be heading. Walking down the middle of His road is where we need to be; Those who move to much to the right side or the left side of the road are perhaps in danger of falling off into a bottomless pit.

But, we may meet people on this forum and elsewhere that are deeply entrenched in a more political spirit while speaking strongly of themselves as Christians. God knows!

Of course we want to be more like Christ. I'm not sure the middle of the road is the place I want to be. (Rev. 3:14-16)

Stranger

 

[GodsGrace]

Well, they can say that but when liberals agree with same sex marriages, abortion, etc they will have a hard time convincing people that they are holding onto biblical Christianity.......

Yes Triumph,
But you'll be told that Jesus is Love.
God is a God of love. He loves everyone.
He forgives everyone. And although this is true, it becomes misused.

 

[bbyrd009]

Yes Triumph,
But you'll be told that Jesus is Love.
God is a God of love. He loves everyone.
He forgives everyone. And although this is true, it becomes misused.

yes, but God will not be mocked, right. Misuse it all you like; it is that one that will pay i guess

but of course if one is still using dividing words like "conservative" etc then that lesson is way down the road anyway

 

[pastor marty]

I agree. And that is the key...a Biblical Christianity. They, the liberal christianity, will center on the goodness of man and the love of Jesus. And at times it goes to the degree that the Jesus they depict is foreign to the Christ of the Bible.

Stranger

YUP !!!

 

[pastor marty]

yes, but God will not be mocked, right. Misuse it all you like; it is that one that will pay i guess

but of course if one is still using dividing words like "conservative" etc then that lesson is way down the road anyway

Good 1;Groupy !!

 

[pastor marty]

Yes Triumph,
But you'll be told that Jesus is Love.
God is a God of love. He loves everyone.
He forgives everyone. And although this is true, it becomes misused.

*****& don't ferget;"I'll B/Back w/my crew;A flame-spittin sword and in no mood fer excuses !!(JESUS)

 

[bbyrd009]

oh He's back i guess lol

 

[Triumph1300]

He forgives everyone.

Yes, but there's no forgiveness without repentance.

 

[lforrest]

Metaphors aside, Liberal Christians believe they have moral superiority due to their support of social programs. They assume that the government will give more to the needy than those who give of their free will. Such assumptions reveal their low opinion for their fellow man, and gullibility to trust the government.

I also have a low opinion of people in general, when it comes to money you can't trust anyone. But I also have a low opinion of Government, recognizing its corruption and inefficiency.

I like to believe I'm cognizant of when I'm being manipulated, and resisting it is an automatic response. Perhaps this is why I'm more conservative, because more are on the left telling me what to think.

 

[bbyrd009]

Of course we want to be more like Christ. I'm not sure the middle of the road is the place I want to be.

yes, Christ surely meant "leave the world, except politics, get all the way up in that" lol. That would be a vast improvement over the ditch you were in, imo, even if i see you changing here

Shame on you, for twisting analogies to your purpose, too, that's pretty sketchy, Stranger.
You want to accuse brothers of being lukewarm, i got some recent "Who cares?" quotes you could try to look at dispassionately, lol.
You would condemn Paul for being all things to all people here in a hurry, i guess

 

[bbyrd009]

Yes, but there's no forgiveness without repentance.

not true, imo. try and quote it, if you can.

There is no salvation without repentance, but we are forgiven already, i'm pretty sure.

 

[GodsGrace]

yes, but God will not be mocked, right. Misuse it all you like; it is that one that will pay i guess

but of course if one is still using dividing words like "conservative" etc then that lesson is way down the road anyway

Conservative is a dividing word?
How would I describe myself to you in 5 minutes.
With words.

 

[bbyrd009]

Conservative is a dividing word?

i would argue that it is, yes. How would someone who IDs as a Connie countenance someone who IDs as a Liberal? voila

 

[amadeus]

Of course we want to be more like Christ. I'm not sure the middle of the road is the place I want to be. (Rev. 3:14-16)

Stranger

Of course I said the "middle of His road" while your reference in Revelation speaks of the whole spectrum of works that people do. Those who are cold or lukewarm would not I believe be on His road at all although the lukewarm ones might think that they were...

 

[bbyrd009]

"ahem" lol

How would I describe myself to you in 5 minutes.
With words.

probably by employing the Hegelian Dialectic without realizing it, like pretty much everyone, i guess. But i am guessing, too, dunno iow

see, "Italian" has no opposing counterpart, neither does "female," etc.
they do not divide, iow.

 

[junobet]

@junobet
hmmm it is quacks like a ____ , talks like a liberal... saying that it isn't a liberal .....fools no one!!!

Really? Well, funnily enough it seems to me that here are topics in which I’m far more ‘conservative’ than you are. For example I have rather strong views on divorce and unrepentant adulterers. Wanna open a thread on that?

 

[GodsGrace]

i would argue that it is, yes. How would someone who IDs as a Connie countenance someone who IDs as a Liberal? voila

All words are dividing then.
I'm Christian-.
You're not.
I'm white.
You're not.
I'm old.
You're not.
I'm American.
You're not.

should I continue?