Is Jesus the only Way?
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Ephesians 1 is a truly wondrous chapter. It can take years truly to let its implications sink in prayerfully...
I taught Ephesians 1 to a group in a retirement home once, and as I was leaving, some of the ladies had already moved out to the courtyard. As I walked between them, one stopped me, and pointed me to another, and said, I think she's upset! And there was a woman in her 90's crying. I knelt down close to her, and asked, What's wrong? All those things you said in there, all those things we have in Christ, I don't have them! I'm so afraid! I suggested she speak with her Father, Talk to Him, tell Him you want Him, that you're sorry for your sins. And I held her and she cried and cried (like me now!), and then she became quite, and she looked up, smiling, and said, "I think I'm OK now!" And that was how I met Yula, who went to Jesus a few years ago, in her one hundredth. So precious!
And there you have my "gift of evangelism"! That one's not mine. I have to be shoved in the right direction.
Much love!
I can understand that, but then again when one talks to some ? do we truly just rest in that like it's a done deal ? did Paul ?
The reason why I point this out is that I have come across some that claim that they are saved and say they believe in a Jesus, but they are happy to abide in sin, happy to promote Sodomy totally and use malice as a tool and promote greed and all works in Satan.
Many Priest do this as well not to mention nowadays even more so now, not to mention that they hid all the child molesters from the public not to mention were happy to promote such a deception as to their own flock and nowadays still have not truly repented at all, you will now them by their works Jesus said. so ones works will condemn you.
They claim that all are saved because of Jesus finished work on the cross ? it's a done deal ? even Satan must be saved then ? one need be very carful as to the detail of he true issue of the word, because Satan is a master of deception.
One only need say that they believe who Jesus is ? well Satan believed who Jesus was ? But believing who Jesus is just does not cut it.
One must follow in him or he will not know you, as he pointed this out.
Many believe in God but do they know God ? only the truly born again in Christ Jesus know God, as such is the only way, it's through Christ Jesus only.
No other religion can come to the Father, one can only come through Jesus Christ.
But Pope Frances claims that Islam worship the same God ? now that's blasphemy in fact ! Islam is a mans works religion, just as Judaism always was and still is, for they do not know Jesus Christ or the Father, for it they knew Jesus is the Christ, they would be Christians.
All other religions are rubbish for they know not God ! and a true Christian knows this for a fact.
No follower of Judaism knows God, for if they did they would become Christian on the spot like Saul when became Paul and Paul never sat on his arse, because Paul was a Servant of God.
Yes, they do... but not all Catholics all of the time. I was Catholic and I remember walking out in a field behind my grandmother's house when I was 10 years old [1953] and sincerely talking to God for a long time one afternoon. I knew really effectively nothing of the Bible except the little bit the priest read in those days. But, I did already know something about God although my words to express it may have missing. God did not answer me for a very long time, but eventually He did answer me. Eventually He did draw me closer to Him... but it was about 22 years later. Was this not still fellowship?
True...although not very common. I had no idea that walking with God was possible growing up Catholic.
of course never say never! :)
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so what was the deal with all that teaching He did when all we are supposed to do is believe He died?
i have always been a bit uncomfortable rooting my belief in human sacrifice, that was the way of the Canaanites and Aztecs and they were pretty dark, evil and disturbing. you would think they way of Jesus would be different than that.
'Greater love hath no man than this,
that a man lay down his life for his friends.'
(Joh 15:13)
Hello @jaybird,
The Lord Jesus Christ took upon Himself the form of a man and came to lay down His life, taking the penalty of our sin upon Himself, that we by simple faith in His atoning blood, may have life in Him.
'But God commendeth His love toward us,
in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
Much more then, being now justified by His blood,
we shall be saved from wrath through him.
For if, when we were enemies,
we were reconciled to God by the death of His Son,
much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by His life.
And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ,
by whom we have now received the atonement.'
(Romans 5:8-11)
* We can know the at-one-ment with God the Father now, through that one all-sufficient sacrifice on our behalf.
* If you were drowning, and someone dived in and saved your life, but in doing so lost His own, would you feel the same towards that person, as you have expressed towards the sacrificial death of our Lord Jesus Christ? Would you not be eternally grateful to that person, who gave His life that you may live?
In Christ Jesus
Chris
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Hello @Episkopos
You asked me a question in #539, which I answered in #540. but you have not acknowledged it. Why?
In Christ Jesus
Chris
You asked me a question in #539, which I answered in #540. but you have not acknowledged it. Why?
In Christ Jesus
Chris
Amen! Usually the teachings of Jesus are relegated to the Jews or anyone else rather than they who claim to be followers of Jesus.
People are looking for a quick fix religion. Jesus is just there to die for us. Not to be listened to. And if one misunderstands Paul...it is possible to whip up a quick sounding fix based on a very modern definition of grace.
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Constantine wanted a quick fix which is why he championed this idea. here are some hard truths on the "belief only" idea-
Constantine was the same murdering slime ball before and after.
the roman empire was no different after it picked this up.
it has been taught in mainstream Christianity for more than a thousand years and the faith is more divided and fallen away than ever before. i would call that a failure.
more on the roman empire, before they "became Christian"- they were always at war expanding the empire, lead by emperors that were murderers, homosexuals, pedophiles, and completely corrupt, gave us terms like "roman candle" which meant wrapping a rabbi in a Torah scroll and lighting them on fire, entertained the people by having them watch men fight to the death or get torn apart by wild animals.
and here is the roman empire after they "became Christian" - they were always at war expanding the empire, lead by emperors that were murderers, homosexuals, pedophiles, and completely corrupt, gave us terms like "roman candle" which meant wrapping a rabbi in a Torah scroll and lighting them on fire, entertained the people by having them watch men fight to the death or get torn apart by wild animals.
and thats kinda the problem with this idea, it does not improve anyone.
We rest in Christ yes, but His work is not yet finished. We rest in the promise that He will finish His work.
He will finish His work...in us. He overcame, and He invites us to also overcome just as He did.
And that means He didn't overcome instead of us....but in order to empower us to do a He did.
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"It is finished" (John 19.30).
"Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many" (Hebrews 9.28).
What if the priest in the OT sanctuary service had walked away from the altar of sacrifice and said, I'm done here, and gone home? What would have happened to Israel. Would the atonement have been "finished"?
Now remember, the OT services were a type... Jesus fulfilled them in every particular. Was everything truly "finished" at the cross?
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