Is Jesus the "third temple"?

[Patrick1966]

It says he does this in the temple of God, not just any old place.

2Th_2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

The Dome of the Rock?

 

[Ronald D Milam]

John 2:19 ESV
Jesus answered them, “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.”

No, we can't take places where Jesus juxtaposes himself (or anything) in parable fashion vs. something like a temple, and then say now this means that, etc. etc.

The AoD can not stand "IN Jesus" as Matt. 24 states. And we can see this is at the time of the end also.

Matt. 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, {whoso readeth, let him understand} 16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: 17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:

18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. 19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! 20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

2Thess. 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

Both point to Daniel's prophecy, which came from the Man in Linen (Jesus pre incarnate) and Gabriel.

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Daniel 12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. 2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

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Dan. 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.

13 But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.

In essence, the temple, IN THE END TIMES, as shown above via "scriptures" is defiled by the Anti-Christ ORDERING the False Prophet (1290 AoD happens before the A.C. conquers Israel at the 1260) to stop or halt Jesus Worship (TAKES AWAY, THE REAL Sacrifice by forbidding the Jews from worshiping Jesus AFTER they repent at the 1335/Two-witnesses).

Jesus can NOT BE DEFILED, catch my drift, it can only be the Temple that is defiled, the AoD is an IMAGE of the Beast as placed by the False Prophet (See Rev. 13 the 2nd Beast creates AN IMAGE of the 1st Beast.)


Rev. 13:14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

So, the False Prophet (2nd Beast) places the AoD which is an Image of the Anti-Christ or First Beast. That is why Jesus says it stands in the Holy Place (Temple). This "IMAGE" can not stand "IN Jesus", thus it can only be the holy place or temple which is defiled.

 

[APAK]

Is there a third temple or will there be?

I don't quite understand your question. If you are saying there is a 3rd brick-and-mortar 'Jewish' temple standing today then you know that answer already. No there is not.

And will there be one? If there will be another 'Jewish' Temple it is an abomination to God and of the spirit of the anti-Son of God and anti-Christ. It denies the Son and his Father and who they represent and for what the Father has done for us through his Son, for all of us. It is a mockery. The Father's Son is the new Temple as I said before.

You could say he, (Christ) is the 3rd temple although I would not compare or classify it as the same as the previous two. This would lead you to a seriously wrong conclusion about this temple that is perfect as the others before were not. As a Christian you should know not to mix the corrupted previous Temples with the one made by God for his Son AND for US, as we are part of it today.

 

[Earburner]

No, we can't take places where Jesus juxtaposes himself (or anything) in parable fashion vs. something like a temple, and then say now this means that, etc. etc.

The AoD can not stand "IN Jesus" as Matt. 24 states. And we can see this is at the time of the end also.

Matt. 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, {whoso readeth, let him understand} 16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: 17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:

18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. 19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! 20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

2Thess. 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

Both point to Daniel's prophecy, which came from the Man in Linen (Jesus pre incarnate) and Gabriel.

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Daniel 12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. 2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

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Dan. 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.

13 But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.

In essence, the temple, IN THE END TIMES, as shown above via "scriptures" is defiled by the Anti-Christ ORDERING the False Prophet (1290 AoD happens before the A.C. conquers Israel at the 1260) to stop or halt Jesus Worship (TAKES AWAY, THE REAL Sacrifice by forbidding the Jews from worshiping Jesus AFTER they repent at the 1335/Two-witnesses).

Jesus can NOT BE DEFILED, catch my drift, it can only be the Temple that is defiled, the AoD is an IMAGE of the Beast as placed by the False Prophet (See Rev. 13 the 2nd Beast creates AN IMAGE of the 1st Beast.)


Rev. 13:14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

So, the False Prophet (2nd Beast) places the AoD which is an Image of the Anti-Christ or First Beast. That is why Jesus says it stands in the Holy Place (Temple). This "IMAGE" can not stand "IN Jesus", thus it can only be the holy place or temple which is defiled.

In regards to God's prophetic words, you don't understand the concept of God with His use of type and antitype.

You are heavily burdened by "the wisdom of men", being their thoughts and ways of "church-ianity". 1 Cor. 2:5
Edit: please see my post #19 for a thorough and truthful understanding

 

[Ronald D Milam]

In regards to God's prophetic words, you don't understand the concept of God with His use of type and antitype.

You are heavily burdened by "the wisdom of men", being their thoughts and ways of "church-ianity". 1 Cor. 2:5

Too funny, should I place you on IGNORE now or wait a bit. If everyone ignored these types I think they would go away.

 

[Randy Kluth]

Yea, maybe the antichrist declares his deity in just a typical place of worship.

One would think Paul is referring to Herod's temple, and yet, that seems to me to be very unlikely. In the entire Bible, the "temple" is largely the Temple of Law, prescribed and described by God's Law.

However, in Paul's time, though the temple is still standing, he knows full well that the temple is to be destroyed, and he himself, though tolerant of cultural recognition of the Law, strongly opposes justification by the Law. So Paul is likely to be using "temple" in a more general sense to apply to "any" temple in which Antichrist may proclaim himself a god. I, in other words, tend to agree with your sentiment.

The principle Paul seems to be applying is the same principle by which the Prophet Daniel foretold that Antiochus committed sacrilege in the temple, boasting before God. And it is the same principle by which Daniel portrays the Roman "abomination of desolation," who destroyed the "city and the sanctuary" in the time when Messiah was "cut off."

In the same way, Paul shows Antichrist to be resistant to God's "temple," boasting he is a god and does not have to live by the laws of God. This is not a temple of Law, such as Antiochus or the Roman Army assaulted, but rather, this is a temple in *support of* Antichrist's claim to be god. It is a heavenly sacrilege, but not an earthly desolation, since it is not called that by Paul.

In other words, this temple, according to Paul, is a place for Antichrist to sustain his claim to be deity. By contrast, the "abomination of desolations" in the past were defilements of the temple of God's Law, committing sacrilege against it. Antichrist's temple is thus undefined, and certainly is not in any sense a New Testament temple.

Who legitimately used the temple of Law to proclaim himself God? Nobody except one who wished to defile the Law. But Antichrist finds an actual "seat" in the temple, indicating the purpose of this temple is not opposed to him, but rather supports his claim to be God.

Always in the past, the "temple" was associated with the Law, and religious imposters utilized idols or pagan temples. But Paul seems to be referring to a substitute of a pagan temple for God's true temple in heaven. He is "boasting" before God that he has a legitimate temple for God, much as Islam does.

Bottom line: I don't really know. But I'm exploring.

 

[Earburner]

I'm doing good just to properly spell my own name.

Please see my post #19 again. I just edited it for more specific truth, of how and when the AoD was fulfilled.

 

[Earburner]

Too funny, should I place you on IGNORE now or wait a bit. If everyone ignored these types I think they would go away.

Your reply is to my post #19.

And you do love "the wisdom of men"!
Go ahead and ignore, it's your loss for understanding, by "the mind of Christ within us", or at least it is in those who ARE born again".
You really should study ALL of 1 Cor. Ch. 2.

Becareful that you are not being blasphemous yourself, by laughing it up against the Lord's truth.
Edit:
Now here is the factual and truthful clincher, that is 100% diametrically opossed to your belief system by "church-ianity":
John 2
[19] Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy [desolate] this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
[20] Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
[21] But he spake of the temple of his body.
[22] When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said.

Are you still in denial and argumentative??
If so, I'm not surprised, for you are steeped in "the doctrines of men", "by the wisdom of men", through church-ianity.

 

[Earburner]

Bottom line: I don't really know. But I'm exploring.

If you are sincerely exploring/seeking to "worship Him in Spirit, and in truth", then I urge you to take a few minutes and "hear" my posts #19 and #28.
Thanks, Earburner

 

[07-07-07]

John 2:19 ESV
Jesus answered them, “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.”

Simply answered, no. There will be a literal 3rd Temple built for the anti-christ to defile.

2 Thessalonians 2
[3] Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin [anti-christ] be revealed, the son of perdition;
[4] Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

 

[07-07-07]

The Dome of the Rock?

Here is some information:

"But this conclusion overlooks the fact that the temple can be literally resurrected overnight! That’s because the Jews plan to erect a tent temple like the Tabernacle of Moses, and they are ready to do so at any moment. Everything has been prepared. Once this temporary temple is put up, they will resume the sacrifices and then start building a more permanent structure around and above the temporary one." - The Third Temple

 

[Earburner]

Here is some information:

"But this conclusion overlooks the fact that the temple can be literally resurrected overnight! That’s because the Jews plan to erect a tent temple like the Tabernacle of Moses, and they are ready to do so at any moment. Everything has been prepared. Once this temporary temple is put up, they will resume the sacrifices and then start building a more permanent structure around and above the temporary one." - The Third Temple

Everyone who is a disbeliever in Christ is Godless.
When the Jews get the fire lit for animal sacrifices, "the image of the beast", the UN, will come and shut them down for animal cruelty.
You are living in a "religionist" dream world.
The AoD is past. See post #19 and#28.

 

[Earburner]

Simply answered, no. There will be a literal 3rd Temple built for the anti-christ to defile.

2 Thessalonians 2
[3] Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin [anti-christ] be revealed, the son of perdition;
[4] Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

Which "son of perdition" are you talking about??

 

[Earburner]

Simply answered, no. There will be a literal 3rd Temple built for the anti-christ to defile.

The quote of this point of the third temple, was quoted John 2:19, but you are on the wrong side of the tracks with it, because you refuse to follow through to verse 22.

The truth of the matter is, you and many others don't understand what Jesus said, in anything of John 2:19-21, BUT in verse 22 the disciples did.

Why are you lacking?
Ans. You prefer to believe the teachings of men,... and THAT is where you have put your faith. 1 Cor. 2:5

 

[07-07-07]

Everyone who is a disbeliever in Christ is Godless.
When the Jews get the fire lit for animal sacrifices, "the image of the beast", the UN will come and shut them down for animal cruelty.
You are living in a "religionist" dream world.
The AoD is past. See post #19 and#28.

The AoD is not past, as it's part of the end-of-days signs that Jesus gave. "Then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be." - v21

Matthew 24
[14] And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
[15] When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand: )
[16] Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
[17] Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
[18] Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
[19] And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
[20] But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
[21] For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

 

[Earburner]

The AoD is not past, as it's part of the end-of-days signs that Jesus gave. "Then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be." - v21

Matthew 24
[14] And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
[15] When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand: )
[16] Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
[17] Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
[18] Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
[19] And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
[20] But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
[21] For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

Verse 14 is from since Pentecost, which is still going on, and then shall the end come [suddenly].

Verse 15 is in the time zone of Jesus' mortal life: "WHEN YE [disciples] therefore SEE the abomination of desolation....

16-20 great tribulation BEGAN soon AFTER the AoD, beginning with the destruction of Jerusalem. And so, "great tribulation" in the world, has not ended since then.
21 for then, [after the AoD] shall there be great tribulation.

What was "the abomination THAT MAKETH, desolate", that is now long past?

Please see my post #19 and #28.
Understand thoroughly Proverbs 6:16-19 in conjunction with John 2:19-22 by "the mind of Christ within you", and NOT by "the wisdom of men" . 1 Cor. 2:5.

Edit: the abomination [key word] THAT MAKETH DESOLATE".
What was  THE abomination , not unto the Jews, but rather unto God the Father Himself, that grievously offended Him?
Ans. The torment and death of His only begotten Son, who was of innocent blood, the very "Temple" in which God Himself dwelled in, that was "made without hands".

 

[ewq1938]

You should now KNOW, that the "AoD" IS PAST!!

Most Christians can't handle the truth of it!!
Not that they wouldn't, but because of the grievious errors of interpretation in Daniel, by church-ianity, they have been deceived by "the wisdom of men", and led astray. 1 Cor. 2:5

The teaching that the AOD is past is one of many lies deceiving church-ianity. That one is taught by the RCC because they don't want any Pope to be associated with it, or the title of AC etc. You just peddle this one while other's have other ones. I think all denominations have these false doctrines as part of their beliefs. They all lead to deception.

The AOD is coming. The AC is coming. Jesus warned us to watch and not be deceived.

 

[ewq1938]

The Dome of the Rock?

No, because that is not the temple of God.

 

[Tomorrow]

John 2:19 ESV
Jesus answered them, “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.”

That's a unique theory. Jesus is the third temple. Possibly so.

God is not found in temples built by mortal hands.

 

[face2face]

Is there a third temple or will there be?

Good question, I believe Ezekiel's Temple could well be constructed as we have the plans!



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