Is the messiah the father himself in flesh?

[Jane_Doe22]

neither am I, I only asked you to acknowledge the TRUTH, not 101G. as said don't argue with 101G, argue for the truth. if what I presented on unity is truth your only response is to acknowledge, or else disprove what I said, not by attack 101G, but presenting truth. for truth will stand.

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

^That is arguing with you.
I'm not interested and will not be responding to any more of your posts trying to goad me into this behavior I find unbecoming of a Christian.

 

[April_Rose]

No Christ is separate yet still the same God. God the Father is God, He is not the Son. God the Son is God, yet He is not the Father. God the Holy Spirit is God, yet He is not the Father nor the Son. All three are the Same God.

Huh??

 

[101G]

I was taught as a child that Jesus and God the Father were different,.. but now I think it's more like God has three separate beings. Creator, spirit, and flesh all being the same entity though. I could be wrong,.. I'm still a bit confused.

first thanks for the reply, second, don't feel like the Lone Ranger, we all been taught in error. when I say all, yes, me included. but I refused to stay in ignorance when the truth is available.

we all should seek truth and cast out darkness. on one person have all the answers, this is why the Lord said "seek" him. for he have the answers. well I did, I went after God, and thank God he is a God of his word.

I asked and he answered, in his word he said, "ye have not because ye ask not".

this is so true,

you be blesed.

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[101G]

^That is arguing with you.
I'm not interested and will not be responding to any more of your posts trying to goad me into this behavior I find unbecoming of a Christian.

fine that's you option

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[historyb]

I was taught as a child that Jesus and God the Father were different

You were taught well. God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit are all separate and yet one God. One God in three persons

 

[Jane_Doe22]

I was taught as a child that Jesus and God the Father were different,.. but now I think it's more like God has three separate beings. Creator, spirit, and flesh all being the same entity though. I could be wrong,.. I'm still a bit confused.

Where are you getting confused?

(trying to use what I know to help you out, but i"m not sure where the confusion is to help out with)

 

[101G]

No Christ is separate yet still the same God.

I been asking, if separate, how much of God come down to dwell in flesh?

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[justbyfaith]

No trinity, but just one God who became flesh?

It is still a Trinity.

 

[dev553344]

You were taught well. God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit are all separate and yet one God. One God in three persons

That's what I was taught also. I still get a little confused about the Holy Spirit as he seems to me to be Jesus sometimes.

 

[April_Rose]

Where are you getting confused?

Cause people keep telling me different things. :/

 

[101G]

It is still a Trinity.

so how much of Jesus, (your second person), was in that body dwelling on EARTH?

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[justbyfaith]

(to all I say: ) see the following:

True Trinity.

(especially posts #1-#6).

 

[historyb]

That's what I was taught also. I still get a little confused about the Holy Spirit as he seems to me to be Jesus sometimes.

I can understand. However, the Holy Spirit couldn't be Jesus because at this moment Jesus is sitting at the right hand of the Father.

 

[justbyfaith]

You were taught well. God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit are all separate and yet one God. One God in three persons

They are distinct, not separate; even according to the creeds.

 

[justbyfaith]

I can understand. However, the Holy Spirit couldn't be Jesus because at this moment Jesus is sitting at the right hand of the Father.

The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Jesus, made distinct from Him in Luke 23:46.

 

[Jane_Doe22]

Cause people keep telling me different things. :/

People do indeed have different views, as you can see in this thread

Ultimately, you got to look to God Himself to light the way and illuminate Truth for you. Other people can be helpful in explaining their views, but God is the ultimate source for you to check in with.

 

[dev553344]

They are distinct, not separate; even according to the creeds.

I read the creeds and it appears they are separate and one God. How did you discern them as not three in one?

 

[101G]

well here is the elephant in the room that no one is willing to see. if there is a trinity of Person in the Godhead, how much of the second person came down to dwell in that body of flesh.

remember you said it was three persons. so how much of the second person came down... 1/3 of the Spirit?

let hear the truth.

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[dev553344]

The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Jesus, made distinct from Him in Luke 23:46.

Also there is a spirit descending on Jesus in the baptism. Luke 3:22. But I swear I've felt Jesus' holy spirit at times.

 

[historyb]

I read the creeds and it appears they are separate and one God. How did you discern them as not three in one?

From the Apostles it has always been taught that there are three separate beings who are one God. It's a mystery and sometimes there are no answers just faith.