Is the Second Death the End? - (nope)

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I quoted Jesus. That's a lie? He warned you of Hell Fire several times. Was Jesus a liar?
No Jack, you quoted no one. What you said was:
No it isn't. Parables don't use literal Biblical people, Moses, Abraham, Lazarus!!!


BILLIONS in Hell will wish it was a parable!
If that is quoting Jesus then you might want to get a new Bible.
 

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No Jack, you quoted no one. What you said was:
Quoting Jesus:

Luke 16:19-28 (YLT)

19 the rich man died, and was buried;
23 and in the hades having lifted up his eyes, being in torments, he doth see Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom,
24 and having cried, he said, Father Abraham, deal kindly with me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and may cool my tongue, because I am distressed in this flame.
25 `And Abraham said, Child, remember that thou did receive--thou--thy good things in thy life, and Lazarus in like manner the evil things, and now he is comforted, and thou art distressed;
26 and besides all these things, between us and you a great chasm is fixed, so that they who are willing to go over from hence unto you are not able, nor do they from thence to us pass through.
27 `And he said, I pray thee, then, father, that thou mayest send him to the house of my father,
28 for I have five brothers, so that he may thoroughly testify to them, that they also may not come to this place of torment.
If that is quoting Jesus then you might want to get a new Bible.
Nah. I'll stick with all the English Bibles that warn you of EVERLASTING Hell Fire!
 
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Quoting Jesus:

Luke 16:19-28 (YLT)
19 the rich man died, and was buried;
23 and in the hades having lifted up his eyes, being in torments, he doth see Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom,
24 and having cried, he said, Father Abraham, deal kindly with me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and may cool my tongue, because I am distressed in this flame.
25 `And Abraham said, Child, remember that thou did receive--thou--thy good things in thy life, and Lazarus in like manner the evil things, and now he is comforted, and thou art distressed;
26 and besides all these things, between us and you a great chasm is fixed, so that they who are willing to go over from hence unto you are not able, nor do they from thence to us pass through.
27 `And he said, I pray thee, then, father, that thou mayest send him to the house of my father,
28 for I have five brothers, so that he may thoroughly testify to them, that they also may not come to this place of torment.

Nah. I'll stick with all the English Bibles that warn you of EVERLASTING Hell Fire!
Where exactly is Abraham when Jesus made this "literal" statement?
 

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Geez, Jack if you believe an age is forever I'm sure you could be convinced that an hour, day, month or year is also forever.

Contemptuous comments aside . . .

The ages of the ages . . . how long a time is that? It doesn't matter how many years or seconds or whatever you ascribe as being an "age", that particular period of time, simply look at the clause.

The "periods of time" that encompass the "periods of time", this is short of "forever" to you?

Not to me.

Much love!
 

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Contemptuous comments aside . . .

The ages of the ages . . . how long a time is that? It doesn't matter how many years or seconds or whatever you ascribe as being an "age", that particular period of time, simply look at the clause.

The "periods of time" that encompass the "periods of time", this is short of "forever" to you?

Not to me.

Much love!
Yes, way short?

Peace.
 

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So, when Jesus said "everlasting life" that's "way short" too?
Exo 40:15 And thou shalt anoint them, as thou didst anoint their father, that they may minister unto me in the priest's office: for their anointing shall surely be an everlasting priesthood throughout their generations.

So Jack, was the Aaronic priesthood everlasting?

Lev 16:34 And this shall be an everlasting statute unto you, to make an atonement for the children of Israel for all their sins once a year. And he did as the LORD commanded Moses.


What about that Jack, should we make atonement every year?

Psa 103:17 But the mercy of the LORD is from everlasting to everlasting upon them that fear him, and his righteousness unto children's children;

What in the world does that mean? And if it's true how can BILLIONS of people burn in hell forever?

You've been duped Jack.
 
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Exo 40:15 And thou shalt anoint them, as thou didst anoint their father, that they may minister unto me in the priest's office: for their anointing shall surely be an everlasting priesthood throughout their generations.

So Jack, was the Aaronic priesthood everlasting?
Time will tell won't it!
Lev 16:34 And this shall be an everlasting statute unto you, to make an atonement for the children of Israel for all their sins once a year. And he did as the LORD commanded Moses.

What about that Jack, should we make atonement every year?
The Law of Moses was ONLY for Israel. Jesus is my atonement! How about you?
Psa 103:17 But the mercy of the LORD is from everlasting to everlasting upon them that fear him, and his righteousness unto children's children;

What in the world does that mean? And if it's true how can BILLIONS of people burn in hell forever?

You've been duped Jack.
It means you're totally evading my comment! Everlasting Life, everlasting punishment!

Exact same Greek Word! You should read what Jesus some time, before it's too late.
 

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Time will tell won't it!
It already did.
The Law of Moses was ONLY for Israel. Jesus is my atonement! How about you?
Now you're getting it Jack.
It means you're totally evading my comment! Everlasting Life, everlasting punishment!

Exact same Greek Word! You should read what Jesus some time, before it's too late.
No Jack, Psalms was written in Hebrew not Greek.
You'll get get there, God willing.
 

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It already did.

Now you're getting it Jack.

No Jack, Psalms was written in Hebrew not Greek.
You'll get get there, God willing.
Why are you TOTALLY evading what Jesus said about the EVERLASTING Hell Fire!

Stick to the New Covenant. It can save you from Hell Fire!
 
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He said nothing about it because it doesn't exist.
Jesus mentioned it several times. Why do you want to LIE to yourself???

Jesus speaking to BILLIONS of humans:

Matthew 25:41
41 Then He will also say to those on the left hand, 'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:
 

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Jesus mentioned it several times. Why do you want to LIE to yourself???

Jesus speaking to BILLIONS of humans:

Matthew 25:41
41 Then He will also say to those on the left hand, 'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:
Fortunately, Jesus didn't say that Jack.
 

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Fortunately, Jesus didn't say that Jack.
It's your word against Jesus!

Jesus said:
Matthew 25:46
46 And these will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into everlasting life.

EXACT same Greek Word!
 

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It's your word against Jesus!

Jesus said:
Matthew 25:46
46 And these will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into everlasting life.

EXACT same Greek Word!
Looks like an English word to me Jack.