StanJ said:
It's been a while since I studied this but you can see a reference to a circle in Isaiah 40:22
So, your initial comments concerning a particular Hebrew word relating to "an ornament hanging in space" was apparently only an unsubstantiated vague recollection of something you learned a long time ago and was essentially pulled out of thin air?
Here is what the Amplified Bible states regarding Isaiah 40:22-23
Isa 40:22 It is God Who sits above the circle (the horizon) of the earth, and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers; it is He Who stretches out the heavens like [gauze] curtains and spreads them out like a tent to dwell in,
Isa 40:23 Who brings dignitaries to nothing, Who makes the judges and rulers of the earth as chaos (emptiness, falsity, and futility).
I might also add that besides “judges and rulers of this earth” the wild-eyed theories of white lab coat scientists might likewise be included to the list of vain earthly prognosticators. Are not these the same supposed intellects that gave us the “Big Bang “ universe creation nonsense and the theory of man’s evolution from apes?
StanJ said:
Genesis 1:6-8 refers to a canopy of water that surrounded the Earth in the beginning and this water was what God used to flood the Earth during Noah's time.
OK, I’m in full agreement with this declaration. However, was this vast water canopy completely emptied upon the earth during the deluge or were the floodgates merely divinely opened for 40 days and then closed after the last terrestrial creature (besides Noah & co.) expired?
StanJ said:
The word firmament that you refer to was used in the King James version but in Modern English is translated as sky. So basically if you read the account of day two, you will see that God is separating the waters with sky that had water above it as a canopy and water below it that remained on the Earth.
Are Modern English translations always superior to the KJV (or the original Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic for that matter) in how they define the scriptural text? Since you seem to prefer modern translations, here’s another; the NASB states:
Isa 40:22 It is He who sits above the circle of the earth, And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers, Who stretches out the heavens like a curtain And spreads them out like a tent to dwell in.
Might not “the sky” be contained and encapsulated under an invisible dome (or firmament) through which we may glimpse the heavens but never penetrate (until the Day of the LORD)?
StanJ said:
While in orbit, the space shuttle travels around Earth at a speed of about 17,500 miles (28,000 kilometers) per hour. At this speed, the crew can see a sunrise or sunset every 45 minutes. You can find all these facts at space.com.
You’ve yet to explain how the earth’s rotational, orbital and galaxy expanding motion cannot be perceived at all by our physical senses? In lieu of such explanations, you can only refer the reader to some government sanctioned website. We all know our government would never deliberately lie to us. Right, Stan?
It’s been over 50 YEARS since Sputnik and the Mercury, Gemini and Apollo projects yet in that time all that has been accomplished since then (besides successfully bilking the populace for billions of tax dollars for fanciful NASA space adventures) are repetitive high orbital Space Shuttle flights and supposed video footage from remotely-controlled robots on Mars. Oh, and I mustn’t forget all those spectacular CGI images of spectacular space walks and Hubbel telescope images (which with a budget of billions of dollars could easily be computer fabricated on a blue screen).
I would also appreciate it if you would answer my previous questions as to how a pilot manually maintains level flight on a globe without having to constantly downwardly adjusting the aircraft's flaps?
StanJ said:
Actually it says the face of the land, but regardless you seem to forget that we have laws such as gravity and adhesion. These are laws that God created so if you want an explanation as to how these laws work you can ask a scientist or ask our Creator. I don't really worry much about them, I just know they work.
How does water curve? Why… uh… it’s all explained by Gravity (which modern science still can’t accurately define or replicate) and complicated Adhesion principles. Here’s a few calculus derivatives and physics theorems for you to ponder while I practice my PhotoShop image manipulation techniques on these wonderful “space photos” . . . Sorry Stan, I ain’t buying it!
As previously stated, Experience has demonstrated that I cannot solely trust the word of scientists. Our Creator has instilled in our renewed minds an insatiable quest for absolute TRUTH. I’ve come to the conclusion that much of what we’ve been instructed and indoctrinated by the educational system does measure up to this elevated divine standard. Are we better off taking the word of scientists and their nebulous theories to thoroughly explain our environment or are we better served by believing the Word of God and our God-given senses and cognitive abilities to discern such matters?