Is There Different Beliefs Among Catholics? Chrislam Movement?

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Then you might want to consider believing what Scripture teaches instead of man made
doctrines that teach the opposite of Scripture.



Simple:
Forgiveness for not having Believed.
...Christ Accomplished.

Restoration of my soul...
...Christ Accomplished.

Quickening of my spirit...
...Christ Accomplished.

Justification for my body's Glorified Resurrection
...Christ Accomplished.

Christ's Aid in Precepts among men
...On going.

Waiting with patience for BODILY Resurrection in Glory.
...On going.

The Lord has already provided me with what I wanted...and everyday I am Thankful for His Mercy, Grace, Gifts and Blessings.

Maybe one day you will stop wanting and instead receive and be Thankful.

Glory to God,
Taken

And ALL of that adds up to being completely, perfectly and enduringly endowed with grace - just like Mary (Kecharitomene).

 

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There are many people who are free of personal sin. Children before a certain age, folks with certain disabilities and some people of advanced age

So which of your Reasons apply to Mary for you to say, She was Free from personal sin?

Glory to God,
Taken

 

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And ALL of that adds up to being completely, perfectly and enduringly endowed with grace - just like Mary (Kecharitomene).

Rom 3:23
[23] For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
(just like Mary.)

 

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Yes, more of your Docetist heresy

Noted . . .

You say Mary was naturally born SINLESS.

You claim you Teach Catholic doctrine.

Scripture claims:

Romans 3:
[23] For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

LOL per the Usual, I'll stick with Gods Word And continue to Reject your doctrine!

Don't worry, I don't find rejecting your doctrine any big deal, risky or having some gloomy scary consequence...like little Catholic children are taught.

 

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Rom 3:23
[23] For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
(just like Mary.)

Once again – you make it so easy to expose your ignorance.

As I educated you before – this verse is a reference to Psalm 14, where it is talking about the “FOOL”.

In verse 5 of that same Psalm, it says that God is in the company of the “RIGHTEOUS”.
Stop embarrassing yourself . . .

 

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God is in the company of the “RIGHTEOUS”.

WOW...no one said otherwise.

BIG of you to Think yourself the teacher of that Gem! LOL

 

[aspen]

So which of your Reasons apply to Mary for you to say, She was Free from personal sin?

Glory to God,
Taken

None of the reasons have to apply - Mary is blessed among women

 

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WOW...no one said otherwise.
BIG of you to Think yourself the teacher of that Gem! LOL

Ummmm, Rom. 3:10 says there is NONE righteous.
You just don't understand the context.

 

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Never seeing so many words written and so little said, Goats butting heads.

 

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None of the reasons have to apply - Mary is blessed among women

No one said otherwise.

The Question is: have you determined Mary was SINLESS?

 

[aspen]

No one said otherwise.

The Question is: have you determined Mary was SINLESS?

she was forgiven from original sin before birth and free of personal sin during her life. I am not in charge of determining this truth

 

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Ummmm, Rom. 3:10 says there is NONE righteous.
You just don't understand the context.

Jesus taught There is none Righteous.
You simply fail to comprehend He also taught How a person could receive the Righteousness of God.

No Human was naturally born SINLESS...
Including your FALSE teaching about Mary.

Humans have not become SINLESS...Yet.

However SOME humans have received ...
Forgiveness; a new Heart, Mercy, fullness of Grace, Righteousness of God, Favor, Other Gifts and Blessings,
Salvation of their soul, a Quickened spirit, Gods Spirit
and ..
JUSTIFICATION to be raised in a BODY VOID if corruption...IOW, without SIN.

None of those thing means a SINLESS body.

Mary's BODY is still rotting or perhaps already returned to dust...doesn't matter...she is justified just like every other Born Again person to be RAISED up in a BODY without Sin.

ONLY Jesus was excepted and without Sin.
Teaching that applied to Mary is False.

 

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she was forgiven from original sin before birth and free of personal sin during her life. I am not in charge of determining this truth

You are in charge of what you believe.
You stated your belief.

Now I ask you to reveal in Scripture where it says what you stated.

she was forgiven from original sin before birth and free of personal sin during her life.

Thanks,
Glory to God,
Taken

 

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Jesus taught There is none Righteous.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/B]
You simply fail to comprehend He also taught How a person could receive the Righteousness of God.

No Human was naturally born SINLESS...
Including your FALSE teaching about Mary.

Humans have not become SINLESS...Yet.

However SOME humans have received ...
Forgiveness; a new Heart, Mercy, fullness of Grace, Righteousness of God, Favor, Other Gifts and Blessings,
Salvation of their soul, a Quickened spirit, Gods Spirit
and ..
JUSTIFICATION to be raised in a BODY VOID if corruption...IOW, without SIN.

None of those thing means a SINLESS body.

Mary's BODY is still rotting or perhaps already returned to dust...doesn't matter...she is justified just like every other Born Again person to be RAISED up in a BODY without Sin.

ONLY Jesus was excepted and without Sin.
Teaching that applied to Mary is False.

Ummmm, can you show me the Verse where Jesus taught what YOU are claiming above on RED??

While you're at it, show me the Verse that says nobody but Jesus never sinned.

I eagerly await your reply . . .

 

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Ummmm, can you show me the Verse where Jesus taught what YOU are claiming above on RED??

While you're at it, show me the Verse that says nobody but Jesus never sinned.

" Jesus taught there is none righteous".

WHO taught None..(children of men)..are Righteous (morally good)?
...The WORD OF GOD.

WHO IS the WORD of God?
Jesus
WHO TAUGHT?
...The LORD.
TO WHOM? Was it Taught?
...TO David.
WHO is David?
...A servant of God.
HOW DID the LORD Teach David?
...Spoken By Gods WORD.
WHO is Gods WORD?
...Jesus
WHERE is it Written?
....Ps 14: 1-3
... Ps 53: 1:3

WHO repeated as it was Written?
...Paul
WHO is Paul?
...A servant of God.
WHERE is it Written?
...Rom 3: 10

While you're at it, show me the Verse that says nobody but Jesus never sinned.

^ Those are YOUR WORDS, not mine.
Why ask me TO show in a verse What YOU said?

 

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Never seeing so many words written and so little said, Goats butting heads.

It's a Debate Thread.
If you see Goats butting heads, you are blind.

Pay attention to who is using scripture as a source and who denies scripture is an adequate source.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

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And ALL of that adds up to being completely, perfectly and enduringly endowed with grace - just like Mary (Kecharitomene).

One little problem...
All of those things are Gifts bestowed forward from God To a person WHO Believes.

Where is the Scripture that reveals "Mary Believed" from the moment of her natural birth?

 

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" Jesus taught there is none righteous".

WHO taught None..(children of men)..are Righteous (morally good)?
...The WORD OF GOD.

WHO IS the WORD of God?
Jesus
WHO TAUGHT?
...The LORD.
TO WHOM? Was it Taught?
...TO David.
WHO is David?
...A servant of God.
HOW DID the LORD Teach David?
...Spoken By Gods WORD.
WHO is Gods WORD?
...Jesus
WHERE is it Written?
....Ps 14: 1-3
... Ps 53: 1:3

WHO repeated as it was Written?
...Paul
WHO is Paul?
...A servant of God.
WHERE is it Written?
...Rom 3: 10
^ Those are YOUR WORDS, not mine.
Why ask me TO show in a verse What YOU said?

WOW.
A whopping 109 words - and not a SINGLE verse of Scripture that makes your false claim.

Next time - THINK before you type . . .

 

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One little problem...
All of those things are Gifts bestowed forward from God To a person WHO Believes.

Where is the Scripture that reveals "Mary Believed" from the moment of her natural birth?

I'll show it to you when YOU show me a verse that says God cannot choose whom HE wants to bestow grace upon.
MY Bible says He has that prerogative (Exod, 33:19, Rom. 9:15).

Ummmmmmm, what does YOURS say??

 

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WOW.
A whopping 109 words - and not a SINGLE verse of Scripture that makes your false claim.

Next time - THINK before you type . . .

Wow- you can count. LOL.