amigo de christo
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that is what i b een warning about . THE RCC and the league of religoins
THEY are the ones behind this centering IN JERSUALEM .
OH yeah we all being decieved .
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THEY are the ones behind this centering IN JERSUALEM .
OH yeah we all being decieved .
The RCC can only be a 'victim' itself along with other deceived Christian organizations. That because it is not going to be in control of the 'beast' who's headquarters will manifest in Jerusalem at the end.
I agree with what you are saying with the RCC pushing ecumenical joining of religions. The U.N. is doing that too and they aren't a religious organization.
I once believed that and I don't any longer. Everything Jesus said has been fulfilled in AD70, including His return in the sky (thus not His bodily return) and save many from the Great Tribulation (in the sky) Israel ever faced, the murdering by the Romans of the 600.000 to 1.000.000 people after 3.5 years living in agony in Jerusalem, this according to the historians Josephus and Tacticus, including the destruction of the Temple ripping the heart of the theocracy Israel, ending the theocracy Israel. No longer the Lord wanted to dwell in a Temple but in the heart of man by the Holy Spirit now that Jesus reconciled His fallen creation with the Father.
Mark 9:1 And he said to them, “Truly, I say to you, there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see the kingdom of God after it has come with power.”
Matt 16:27 For the Son of Man is going to come with his angels in the glory of his Father, and then he will repay each person according to what he has done.
Matt 16:28 Truly, I say to you, there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.”
Luke 9:26 For whoever is ashamed of me and of my words, of him will the Son of Man be ashamed when he comes in his glory and the glory of the Father and of the holy angels.
Luke 9:27 But I tell you truly, there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see the kingdom of God.”
Is 3 times enough to convince you Jesus said I will come back soon, in the life time of the people He was addressing?
There were signs in the sky recorded by the historian Josephus.
Also :
Matt 24:40 Then two men will be in the field; one will be taken and one left.
Matt 24:41 Two women will be grinding at the mill; one will be taken and one left.
Matt 24:42 Therefore, stay awake, for you do not know on what day your Lord is coming.
Happened.
For the bodily return of Jesus search for unfulfilled prophecies, such as Zach 12-14.
amigo de christo
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All who are in agreement with the Harlot are her children . As you know .
Thus on the day of the LORD , as you know , the victim card will not work .
For all who the SON sets free are free indeed . What was the cause of their love and devotion to such a harlot
who sits high over the nations and kings of this world , WHY they LOVED A LIE of course .
Just wanted to remind us of this as well .
The blame card of why one did as they did will not work With GOD .
For while it is true it was the serpent who did tempt eve
and while it was true the woman gave to adam and he did eat
NOTICE they all got punished . Because the one who seduces and the one who sits under such
ARE BOTH GUILTY .
A harlot can indeed sing a song of her love
and that which is of anti christ can sell its tune
But JESUS saves and can have kept one safe . CHOOSE YE THIS DAY
whom ye shall serve . Die daily clinging to Christ who is able to keep us from falling .
But never join hands , never find common ground with the har lot , with the darkness , with the co exist .
FOR darkness and light do not blend as one . And Christ has no communion with a harlot , nor shall his sheep .
Be encouraged davy . and beware those who speak of a unity , of finding common ground
and who holler often judge not to those who do correct the church .
For though they holler judge not , THEY HAVE set to themselves THAT the very words of GOD are on trial
in their churches , AND THOSE WORDS DO THEY JUDGE and condmen as hate speech .
And condmen and have zero tolerance for the sheep who do b ring such words . Something wicked and very dark
has c ome upon even much of christendom .
A lie is now loved and Truth is all the more hated .
Marvelloustime
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amigo de christo
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Marvelloustime
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That's basically men's doctrine called Preterism, which believes most Bible prophecy is past history, when it is not. I could never agree with that, even though I was raised in a Preterist teaching Church, I just didn't know what it was yet when I was young.
When I got older, as I wasn't baptized until I turned 40, it was then that God hit me with The Holy Spirit unction to get down to Bible study for myself, asking His help. That is when I began learning how many of the doctrines of men coming out of today's seminaries are actually deceptions, and do not align with God's written Word, like the ones you show above.
The 70 A.D. destruction of Jerusalem and the 2nd temple by the Romans did not complete Jesus' prophecy of not one stone standing atop another at the temple mount. And that is what He said, not one stone atop another. Even today, the Western Wall of the old 2nd temple complex is still standing there, huge stones too, and even the Muslim Dome of The Rock stands on the temple mount in Jerusalem today.
Furthermore, when Christ's disciples asked Jesus the question while on the Mount of Olives with Him, about what would be the Sign of His coming, and of the end of the world, they were referring to the very END of this world time period, NOT 70 A.D. And proof of that is contained in Jesus' answer to them about the Sign of His FUTURE COMING and gathering of His faithful Church per the Matthew 24:29-31 verses. THEREFORE, the doctrines of men you are trying to push haven't even provided even an inkling of Biblical proof of what you said above.
amigo de christo
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verily verily i say unto thee
never sell
never sail
and never sale .
Sell NOT the TRUTH .
SAIL not in the waters of an ecumenical whores influence .
And never buy the sale of a harlot who sells her lie upon many waters .
Just a friendly reminder .
I just read that last night about the SOME here Will not TASTE of DEATH
TILL they have SEEN THE KINGDOM . yet i thinks folks forget ITS THE HEAVENLY KINGDOM .
NOW WHEN ALL STAND BEFORE HIM , the sold out WILL THEN TASTE THE SECOND DEATH .
perhaps THIS is what JESUS MEANT . Because THE KINGDOM has never CAME TO EARTH AS OF YET .
The beleivers are CONNECTED TO IT . JUST LIKE JESUS has NOT YET COME , NOT YET HE AINT .
SO what IF this is what HE MEANT about SOME HERE WONT TASTE D EATH TILL THEY SEE .
CAUSE ON THAT DAY COMETH THE JUDGMENT AND WRATH OF GOD upon the sold out.
MANY will awaken to THE SECOND DEATH SENTENCE and many who also slept in the dust WHO BELEIVED ON JESUS
shall be forever present WITH HIM .
WHAT IF , and i say what IF because i am not one hundred percent sure its what he meant by that .
BUT what IF IT IS what he meant . My advice is i would not heed a preterist .
EVEN IF they got some thin gs right . But more so NEVER HEED ALSO the ecumeincal whore .
YE shall know her by her THIS IS THE WAY TO ATTAIN PEACE N SAFETY IN THE WORLD SPEECHES .
Better watch out and not heed any voice that is focused on THIS WORLD PEACE stuff . cause it be A DELUSION
and a prepartion of all hearts to merge as one
under what all religoins and a W HOLE TON of christen dom too , will beleive IS OF GOD , IS HIS PLAN
IS HIS PEACE . oh but it be the working of many antichrists that simply lead all religoins and much of christendom
and the world RIGHT TO THE BIG KAHUNA they THOUGHT and BELIEVE IS GOD , ONLY IT THE DARK ONE
IT The very son of perdtion . MY advice , FLEE THE UNITY FINDIN G COMMON GROUND CHURCHES and DO IT NOW .
DO IT TODAY , DO IT THIS MINUTE and dont look back . A VERY strong and unifying DELUSION
to merge the DEcIEVED with the DECIEVED is occuring .
amigo de christo
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notice JESUS said THEY WONT taste of DEATH UNTIL THEY SEE .
And he spoke about HIS DAY , HIS RETURN .
now as we both know the second death IS administired ON HIS DAY .
JESUS even warned the jews about WHEN YE SHALL SEE abraham , the prophets and etc
AND YE YOURSELVES cast out
NOTICE HE says THEY WONT TASTE death TILL that DAY .
what if JESUS is speaking about the second death
that all generations who rejected him shall awaken too ON THE DAY OF JUDGMENT .
NOTICE it talks about a ressurection OF THE JUST and THE UNJUST .
So my advice is , DO NOT heed a preterist . THOUGH I AM DARN SURE I AM preaching to THE CHOIR when i tell you that my friend .
As written in Revelation 20, the "second death" does not occur until after... Christ's future "thousand years" reign with His elect over the unsaved nations.
In that future Millennium, Jesus even told His elect Church of Philadelphia that He will make those Jews who only say.. they are Jews, but are not, but are the "synagogue of Satan", to come worship Him at the feet of His elect. That has never... happened during this present world. It will only happen in Christ's future "thousand years" reign, showing the wicked will still exist throughout that period. Zechariah 14:16-21 presents the same kind of idea about the wicked during Christ's future reign in Jerusalem, on earth.
amigo de christo
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i concur with that .
its true there are things i do not understand about the thousand years .
buT I DO clearly understand
JESUS DID NOT COME BACK IN SEVENTY AD . no way and NO HOW did that occur .
And if folks think he did and that we are somehow now in the thousand years ,
TELL ME WHO THE HECK IS DOING ALL THIS DECEIVING .
cause in the thousand years BOTH THE FP and BEAST are roasting alive IN THE LAKE OF FIRE
SATAN HIMSELF is in the pit and bound and CANNOT decieve the nations .
WHEN JESUS COMES again , ITS FOR HIS CHURCH and TO LAY DOWN wrath .
THAT AINT HAPPENED IN no seventy ad or yet . SO my advice is
LETS NOT PREACH IT as THOUGH IT DID . if we dont undersetand things , OKAY that is fine
BUT DONT BUY INTO preterism . n o false theology preaches ALL LIES , e ven they have some truths .
BUT STILL its false .
I know men's seminary doctrine called PRETERISM is false. I never have believed it. And it's the FULL PRETERIST doctrine that believes Jesus' 2nd coming already happen back in His Apostle's day, when it did not.
The 70 A.D. destruction of Jerusalem and the Jew's 2nd temple has been treated by the deceived Church to represent all prophecy for Jerusalem in this world is now dead history, when it is not. When Jesus told the unbelieving Jews their 'house' was left desolate, the deceived Church took that to mean nothing important would ever happen later in Jerusalem, which is not true. And thus the early Church began to proclaim Christ's literal Kingdom had officially come on earth because of that 70 A.D. destruction of Jerusalem. Yet Jesus showed in John 18:36 that His Kingdom is NOT of this present world time. And it is this point many brethren miss, when it is very, very, very important...
Think on it. The majority of today's Christian Church believes Christ's literal Kingdom is already established here on earth, since the cross. Yet Lord Jesus Himself is NOT YET PRESENT HERE ON EARTH. Do you not see a problem with that?
There exists many major Bible prophecies about Christ's Kingdom involving His DIRECT PRESENCE HERE BACK ON EARTH, His throne and reign even being directly here on earth. And it includes the restoration of the old kingdom of Israel like it was before, which is NOT happening yet in today's nation of Israel (that future restoration MUST include ALL 12 tribes of Israel, not just a remnant of Jews of the 3-tribe "house of Judah" that has been returning since after 70 A.D., and especially in 1948).
The Kingdom Lord Jesus brought to earth at His cross is His Kingdom of The Spirit. That is what today's Churches represent. And that is why in The New Testament He gave us to pray for His future Kingdom to come, meaning His future literal physical Kingdom here on earth WITH HIS DIRECT PRESENCE, physically here on earth with us.
amigo de christo
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Bingo . many as you said ARE ALL ABOUT BELIEVING HIS KINDOM IS HERE already .
Kinda odd as they follow men and their politics and etc .
HIS KINGDOM is above and WE are connected to it BY HIS SPIRIT .
we DO await this coming KINGDOM , this coming HEAVENLY CITY .
but many , AS DOES THE RCC , As do the nar as do many
BELEIVE ITS ALL ABOUT ESTABLISHING THE KINGDOM NOW ON EARTH .
AND boy has that always led to blood shed . IT will again and this time MASSIVE amounts of it too .
BUT MY KINGDOM IS NOT HERE on earth . MY KINGDOM IS ABOVE
and by HIS SPIRIT is within , that IS HOW i have come unto this mount zion , this heavenly jerusalem
AND i wait for its day ON and IN , THE NEW EARTH and NEW HEAVENS .
THEY ARE ALL being decieved . and its why THEY ALWAYS will pick up carnal weapons
TO DEFEND THEIR KINGDOM
CAUSE ITS EARTHLY as our their weapons . we about to see a HOT MESS explode my friend .
THE great hour wherein it all peaks . AND MANY who kill us willl BELIEVE they do the will of GOD and for His plan
to attian PEACE N SAFETY IN THE UNITED UOTPAIN KINGDOM ON EARTH , and they will BELIEVE is OF GOD .
Yep, except I don't believe there will be as much killing of us as you sort of are saying. I don't believe that even all of Christ's chosen sent "very elect" will be delivered up, but only some of His "very elect", and they indeed might be killed, to fulfill the 5th SEAL prophecy.
The Georgia Guidestones monument obviously created by the New Word Order, declared getting the world population down to 500 million total. So you might be right, if God allows them total sway, they may try that.
amigo de christo
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Oh not all of us will be killed . But blood is gonna flow against the sheep .
As it has throughout the ages . but i agree not all of us will be killed .
but let this be our words , I had sooner die than kneel to the harlot and her love and have sold Christ out for a lie .
Now to the trenches davy cause the hour is late and grows only later by the hour .
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Mark 9:1 And he said to them, “Truly, I say to you, there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see the kingdom of God after it has come with power.”
Matt 16:27 For the Son of Man is going to come with his angels in the glory of his Father, and then he will repay each person according to what he has done.
Matt 16:28 Truly, I say to you, there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.”
Luke 9:26 For whoever is ashamed of me and of my words, of him will the Son of Man be ashamed when he comes in his glory and the glory of the Father and of the holy angels.
Luke 9:27 But I tell you truly, there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see the kingdom of God.”
How do you explain?
Lord Jesus gave 2 perspectives in His Word about His Kingdom.
Lord Jesus contrasted the Kingdom in one sense as having come, but in another sense that it would come sometime in the future. We as believers are to know the difference in that. And it's easy to know, because His written Word makes it plain... one just has to 'think'.
Matt 12:28
28 But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you.
KJV
How did Jesus cast out those devils at His 1st coming? By the "Spirit of God". He was thus referring to the Kingdom manifested by The Holy Spirit.
Luke 10:9
9 And heal the sick that are therein, and say unto them, "The kingdom of God is come nigh unto you."
KJV
How are the sick healed by Christ's disciples? By The Holy Spirit.
Luke 17:20-21
20 And when He was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, He answered them and said, "The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
21 Neither shall they say, 'Lo here! or, lo there!' for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
KJV
How... is the "kingdom of God" within us believers on Jesus Christ? In what sense did He mean that? And that word in the Greek for "within" does mean 'inside', and not some other idea like near or within a certain time. No, Jesus meant a location with that "within". Per Hebrews 4:12 we learn God created us with 3 parts, a spirit, a soul, and flesh and bones. His Kingdom is of The Spirit. And especially at Jesus' 1st coming, 'within' believers, literally, is where the Kingdom is, by The Spirit.
But the time will come when Jesus returns, and the Kingdom will manifest literally, here on earth in the physical. And it means the Heavenly is going to be revealed right here, on earth, with God's Kingdom here, literally, on this earth, and The Father even returning back to this earth to live here with us.
Luke 21:29-33
29 And he spake to them a parable; Behold the fig tree, and all the trees;
30 When they now shoot forth, ye see and know of your own selves that summer is now nigh at hand.
31 So likewise ye, when ye see these things come to pass, know ye that the kingdom of God is nigh at hand.
32 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled.
33 Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.
KJV
Jesus refers above to the coming of the Kingdom in the final generation on earth that will 'see' those Signs He gave there in His Olivet discourse. The final Sign He gave there is that of His still future coming to gather His saints. That's how we know He was speaking of the future in the above. So WHICH Kingdom was He pointing to in the above, to the Kingdom by The Spirit, or to the Kingdom that will eventually manifest here on earth in the physical with His literal return to live with us? Jesus was pointing to the latter Kingdom idea.
Luke 22:18
18 For I say unto you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, until the kingdom of God shall come.
KJV
Which Kingdom idea is the above about? It is about the coming of His future Kingdom in the physical, with His literal return.
Matt 7:21-23
21 Not every one that saith unto Me, 'Lord, Lord', shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of My Father Which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Thy name? and in Thy name have cast out devils? and in Thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, 'I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.'"
KJV
Again, WHICH Kingdom was Jesus pointing to in the above? His later physical Kingdom on earth that comes at His future return.
Matt 8:11-12
11 And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven.
12 But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
KJV
That is a direct connection to many of the Old Testament prophets about God's future gathering of the tribes of Israel, including the Lost Ten Tribes. The majority of Israelites to this day are still scattered among the Gentiles, living as Gentiles, thinking they are Gentiles. That gathering is still future to us, and will be done by Lord Jesus Christ at His future 2nd coming. That's about the future physical Kingdom obviously.
Matt 13:40-43
40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
41 The Son of man shall send forth His angels, and they shall gather out of His kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.
KJV
Only at the very END of the world (to include Christ's "thousand years" reign), will those "tares" be cast into the future "lake of fire",
Luke 13:28-29
28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.
29 And they shall come from the east, and from the west, and from the north, and from the south, and shall sit down in the kingdom of God.
KJV
That's another example from the Old Testament prophets about the gathering by Christ of the Old Testament saints in the future physical Kingdom when Jesus comes.
Luke 14:15
15 And when one of them that sat at meat with Him heard these things, He said unto him, "Blessed is he that shall eat bread in the kingdom of God."
KJV
What time of eating bread was Lord Jesus referring to there? The great supper in His future Kingdom. Christ's elect who reign with Him will serve Him at His table, and sit down to eat with Him. Of course that could not happen at anytime after the cross, since Jesus is in Heaven with The Father, still expecting. That is another example of His future physical Kingdom still yet to come.
John 18:36
36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if My kingdom were of this world, then would My servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is My kingdom not from hence.
KJV
That seals it. Jesus made it plain that His Kingdom is not of this present world time, meaning His future literal physical Kingdom when He shall sit upon the throne of His flesh father David, which is an earthly throne.
So when Jesus showed the Powers of Heaven had come in full view to those Pharisees asking Him when the Kingdom should come, that was about His Kingdom by The Spirit, which IS... already here on earth today within the 'spirit' of His believers, through His many-membered body, His Church.
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