Islam: where is the crusade?

[Peltast]

I am impressed at the way in which the Belgian political party Vlaams Belang is leading the campaign against Islam in that country. As they point out, women are the first to suffer when Islam takes over. Well .. along with gays, adulterers, and non-Muslims.

Christians are persecuted in a lot of Muslim countries. Non-Muslims are often murdered or raped by Muslims in the United Kingdom where I live. Gay people and adulterers are put to death in at least some Muslim countries. Women are forced to accept a subservient status in a lot of Muslim communities. For example, women suffer more than men from honour killings.

I wish political parties in every country could campaign on this important issue. Britain will be a Muslim country in roughly forty years from now, and after that it will be too late to campaign for change.

 

[kiwimac]

Rot.

 

[Comm.Arnold]

How bad is this on a daily basis in England ? I have studied this issue for a while and at the risk of being labeled something negative I have only been able to conclude. If you read a left wing paper it is nothing but a few understandable incidents. If you read a right wing paper it is a almost a jihad war against all non-muslims in the streets. I have yet to find a straight answer, although is it any of the North American christians business.

 

[veteran]

It's happenning in the U.S. also. Reports have come out about beatings by Islamic extremists of non-Muslims unknowingly wandering into Islamic neighborhoods in Washington, D.C. (see Worldnetdaily news website, which is keeping up with Islam's pushing of Sharia law being the law of the land for their Islamic communities in the U.S.).

A U.S. Army Special Forces general (Boykin?) was to give a speech at West Point recently. He was an anchor in counter-terrorism in the middleast. The Islamic political group CAIR complained to the head of West Point to not allow Boykin to give his speak, and he was prevented.

Just as in England, Islamic mosks in the U.S. have harboured Islamic extremists that have been arrested.

 

[aspen]

 

[veteran]

So where is the crusade against Islam's living in the west trying to usurp Christian tradition, and more importantly, the laws of the land?

Western leaders have caved in, because of the plan for a "one world government". The world leaders, globalists all of them, intend to deal with all... radical religous extremists, regardless of their type of religion.

But it's quite obvious many of today's leaders in the U.S. along with the globalists have every intention of removing as much Christian influences as necessary so as to form up their one world government system. Just as in Communist China and Russia to be a Christian one is required to attend only the state operated and controlled Christian Church, they are manipulating religion as a tool to aid their plan for a one-world government system over all nations. This is why the Inter-Faith movement is happenning, trying to join all the main religions of the world together into one big pot.

Per the U.S. Constitution, religious freedom is not to be violated, as long as one's religious practices do not violate said Constitution which still is to be the law of the land in the United States of America. The U.S. includes peoples of many different religions, but we all are to be American citizens respecting each other's rights per the law. Per that Constitution, the government is to make no law 'establishing' religion, nor prevent the free expression thereof (1st Amendment).

Yet at the behest of minority Islamic organizations like CAIR, free expression of Christian traditions are under direct attack, revealing such organizations as actually radical, extremist, and un-American. But before CAIR, orthodox Jewish organizations were and still are, doing the same things against Christianity in the U.S. And that's not to mention atheist, communist type organizations with the same propensities.

As long as minority groups in the U.S. are allowed to have sway over the Constitutional rights of Christians, or of other peoples in America, we are going to be under attack. Our crusade is to write our U.S. Congressmen and Representatives and speak up. The sqweeky wheel is getting the grease, and it's not in our support.

 

[marksman]

Rot.

Recent research by legal academics Ann Black and Kerrie Sadiq, published in the University of NSW Law Journal, found sharia law had already become a shadow legal system in Australia, endorsing polygamous and under-age marriages that are outlawed under the Marriage Act. Mr Essof points to the fact that special sentencing courts for Aborigines, known as circle sentencing courts, are in place. He says they are "a contemporary example of the application of legal pluralism".

CHRISTIANS KILLED AND CHURCHES BOMBED IN NIGERIA
Two worshippers were killed and at least 12 injured in an armed raid on a church, and at least six other churches were bombed during a spate of widespread attacks by Islamist militants in Northern Nigeria that has left around 150 people dead. A church in Tabak village, Kaduna State, was targeted during a prayer meeting on 3 November. As the meeting was drawing to a close, gunmen burst into the building and fired at the congregation, which consisted mainly of women and children. Two women died at the scene, while at least twelve other people were wounded; some were said to be in a critical condition.

EGYPTIAN CHRISTIANS CONTINUE TO BE PERSECUTED

The fall of President Mubarak's regime post the Egyptian Revolution can hardly be said to have "liberated" the estimated 15 million Coptic and evangelical Christians of Egypt. Yet again, peaceful and unarmed Coptic protestors have been met with a force of unprecedented brutality. A march by Coptic Christians in Cairo to demand an end to ongoing persecution and discrimination has ended with the deaths of up to 40 protestors who were beaten, gunned down, and run over by army tanks in a rampage directed by Egyptian Army personnel, with the assistance of local Islamic extremists. Hundreds more are believed to have been injured.

At least 285 Christians in 35 cities were arrested in Iran during the second half of 2010. Many have spent weeks, and even months in prison, often serving long stretches in solitary confinement. They also have endured interrogations and psychological abuse. Iranian Pastor Hormoz Shariat of Iran Alive Ministries, hosts a satellite television show that is broadcast into Iran. Shariat said most often the Iranian Revolutionary Guards arrest and don't even tell their family. "They can't have a lawyer, not even a formal charge," Shariat said. "Sometimes they get killed without even a formal charge."

Nigeria - Christians flee from North as deadly attacks continue
Hundreds of Christians are leaving their homes in the mainly Muslim North of Nigeria following a New Year ultimatum from militant Islamist group Boko Haram for Christians to quit the North and subsequent attacks against them.
Entire lorry-loads of Christians are said to be leaving Yobe, where twelve Christian men and one woman were reportedly shot dead in Potiskum town between 10 and 11 January. Christians are also leaving Maiduguri, Boko Haram’s spiritual homeland in Borno State, following attacks against them there.
Following the discovery of a burnt copy of the Qur’an in a Christian cemetery, 500 extremists attacked a Christian neighborhood in Gujranwala, a city in Punjab province in northeastern Pakistan. Fearing for their lives, numerous Christians fled their homes.

PERSECUTION IS TOLERABLE UNTIL IT AFFECTS THE CHILDREN

Nuria and her family, whose names must be with held for their safety, are Iraqi Arabs who converted from Islam to Christianity. Whereas Assyrian Iraqis are accepted as Christians by ethnic identity, Iraqi Muslims believe Arabs have no business becoming Christians; it is not possible, according to society and the constitution. If the children say they believe in Jesus, they face beatings and scorn from their teachers. Nuria's parents became Christians seven years ago. Her dad used to speak openly about his faith these days he is not so brave; he has had to change jobs one too many times because his employers discovered his faith.

 

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Those who concern themselves with Islam vs. Christianity, Islam vs. Judaism, Islam vs. Hinduism and Islam vs. everybody else ought to be aware of one major precept of the religion.

Islam is the only religion on the planet with a doctrine to sanction lying and deception.

Don't just accept or reject my opinion, read the words of Muslim clerics and read the words from their own book.
(notes: The Muslim phrase "People of the Book" refers to Christians.)
(* "except under compulsion" <--- notice the exception here)

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"Believers when in a weakened stage in a non-Muslim country should forgive and be patient with People of the Book when they insult Allah and his prophet by any means. Believers should lie to People of the Book to protect their lives and their religion.
- Ibn Taymiyah "THE SWORD ON THE NECK OF THE ACCUSER OF MUHAMMAD"

Anyone who, after accepting faith in Allah, utters unbelief, except under compulsion*, his heart remaining firm in faith - but such as open their breast to unbelief, on them is wrath from Allah, and theirs will be a dreadful penalty.
- Qur'an Surah 16:106

"Know this that lying is not sin by itself, but if it brings harm to you it could be ugly. However, you can lie if that will keep you from evil or if it will result in prosperity."
- Imam Al-Ghazali (Muslim theologian and philosopher)

"The principle of sanctioning lying for the cause of Islam bears grave implications in matters relating to the spread of the religion of Islam in the West. Muslim activists employ deceptive tactics in their attempts to polish Islam's image and make it more attractive to prospective converts."
- Abdullan Al-Araby (Muslim theologian, philosopher and leader)

 

[aspen]

I disagree. Joseph Smith sanction lying too, if it promotes their gospel. Also, many fundamentalists - even some who post on this board support the flawed ethical stance that the ends justify the means, believing that the Bible teaches this moral code. Many point to Jacob stealing Esau's blessing by lying to their father as an example of holy deception.

 

[lawrance]

With the simple narrow minded political correct mob running a nation, the door is wide open for Islam to walk straight in and then just set up in gov and take over in time.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

I disagree. Joseph Smith sanction lying too, if it promotes their gospel. Also, many fundamentalists - even some who post on this board support the flawed ethical stance that the ends justify the means, believing that the Bible teaches this moral code. Many point to Jacob stealing Esau's blessing by lying to their father as an example of holy deception.

That's a good and valid point.

Even though he lied to his father, I would like to come to Jacob's defense by saying that he didn't steal anything from Esau. He legally owned the birthright because Esau sold it to him. Isaac was determined to give the birthright blessing to an ungodly man, but God honored Jacob's legal right to the blessing and prevented him from doing so. It is unfortunate that this accusation against Jacob is repeated ad nauseum by the Christian world, since it was Esau's deluded mind that conceived that lie, not God's.

 

[marksman]

[sub]I disagree[/sub]

[sub]What's new????????[/sub]

 

[veteran]

He's right; God gave His Birthright to Jacob from the start, even before Jacob and Esau were born. And Esau sold his birthright to Jacob for a pot and red pottage. Read Genesis.

 

[Peltast]

It is important to reflect that for a long time now crime involving Muslims has gone largely unreported in this country. Try googling Charlene Downes for example.

Also, sometimes Islam is left out of press reports. There have been items in the national press in the UK recently about "Asian" pack attacks. They are almost certainly Muslim pack attacks. Hindus and Sikhs and Buddhists tend not to be violent.