It's Getting Real Folks

[Brakelite]

The European Commission and WHO launch landmark digital health initiative to strengthen global health security

For those who are confident in their God, this news ought not to be an issue. Interesting yes, because it informs us that Christ's coming is even nearer than we think. That's exciting. Can't wait. In the meantime however, we are going to witness and experience some intensely harrowing challenging times,
KJV Daniel 12:1
...: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

 

[ButterflyJones]

Keep in mind Satan and his faithful in the shadow gov. world wide know the eschatology of Christianity too.

And now, there is technology to make visions appear, as well as governments making policy that is in accord with the end times prophecies.

Our weather is already in the power of China and the U. S.

Imagine how people will fall in line if the end they've looked for starts to appear.

 

[Brakelite]

Keep in mind Satan and his faithful in the shadow gov. world wide know the eschatology of Christianity too.

And now, there is technology to make visions appear, as well as governments making policy that is in accord with the end times prophecies.

Our weather is already in the power of China and the U. S.

Imagine how people will fall in line if the end they've looked for starts to appear.

Mmm. Add to that the Hollywood perspective with aliens and the supernatural, with the now almost global acceptance and all religions agreeing with the concept of the immortality of the human soul: Satan now has carte blanche in deceiving the world into anything he wants with dead folk appearing and speaking 'authoritatively' of the after life, and the 'unnecessary' aspects of certain salient points of Christian belief and practise. He now has the power to convince people of almost anything... And he has. These forums testify of that. One of the most dangerous being that Christians don't have to concern themselves over the Antichrist, because they won't be here. They have been received 2 ways: that the Antichrist is yet to come, and the church will be scooped up before he does come.
The true Antichrist is behind every major global initiative and is being quite upfront and open about his ambitious plans... Hidden in plain sight... But very few see and recognise him.

 

[Brakelite]

Keep in mind Satan and his faithful in the shadow gov. world wide know the eschatology of Christianity too.

And now, there is technology to make visions appear, as well as governments making policy that is in accord with the end times prophecies.

Our weather is already in the power of China and the U. S.

Imagine how people will fall in line if the end they've looked for starts to appear.

It is true that Satan knows the scriptures better than anyone. Which is why his ultimate purpose of destroying God's people can only come about through deception... Counterfeiting truth. He has a counterfeit church, a counterfeit Christ, and a counterfeit eschatology, but each one having concepts and ideas based on scripture, but incorporating enough poison to kill. One can detect mixtures of the above counterfeits throughout Christianity.

 

[MatthewG]

From my standpoint, I am all about people having the ability to obtain health care.

Doesn't have to do with submitting anyone as their Lord?

And why does Paul even suggest subjecting oneself to governing authorities, such as Nero who came around the same time the Letter of Rome was written by him? As long as one was not subjecting someone as their LORD, or as a false Son of God - Paul suggested doing good under the governing authorities in order to stay out of trouble, or even worse dying.

Submission to Governing Authorities​

Romans 1:13 Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. 4 For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience.

6 This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God’s servants, who give their full time to governing. 7 Give to everyone what you owe them: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.

(My opinion in no way may reflect the view or opinions of others)

Love to you, Brake, may you carry on and stay strong,
Matthew

 

[Tommy Cool]

And why does Paul even suggest subjecting oneself to governing authorities, such as Nero who came around the same time the Letter of Rome was written by him? As long as one was not subjecting someone as their LORD, or as a false Son of God - Paul suggested doing good under the governing authorities in order to stay out of trouble, or even worse dying.

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Hi Matt

It is interesting how a couple words and/or bible headlines can direct our thoughts.

I used to read this section in light of how you posted…. but then one day I actually read it…

This section is not talking about government ….

Think in terms if first century leadership in the Church and the gift ministries that people like Timbo (Timothy) Paul and others had. Most of the translations are not great and lean towards government, but reading what is written …you will see this is not about government authorities…. it about ordaned leadership in the body of Christ.

Don’t let the words tribute or render send your thoughts to the “render under Caesar” that is not the tribute it is referring to.

 

[David in NJ]

Mmm. Add to that the Hollywood perspective with aliens and the supernatural, with the now almost global acceptance and all religions agreeing with the concept of the immortality of the human soul: Satan now has carte blanche in deceiving the world into anything he wants with dead folk appearing and speaking 'authoritatively' of the after life, and the 'unnecessary' aspects of certain salient points of Christian belief and practise. He now has the power to convince people of almost anything... And he has. These forums testify of that. One of the most dangerous being that Christians don't have to concern themselves over the Antichrist, because they won't be here. They have been received 2 ways: that the Antichrist is yet to come, and the church will be scooped up before he does come.
The true Antichrist is behind every major global initiative and is being quite upfront and open about his ambitious plans... Hidden in plain sight... But very few see and recognise him.

Please keep in mind that the 'Aliens' are real but are not what we are being told.

FYI = the Big Lie/Delusion is nothing new but has already been

FYI = Go to the TV Series 'Ancient Aliens' and listen to the 'Opening Dialogue' of the show.

 

[dev553344]

From my standpoint, I am all about people having the ability to obtain health care.

Doesn't have to do with submitting anyone as their Lord?

And why does Paul even suggest subjecting oneself to governing authorities, such as Nero who came around the same time the Letter of Rome was written by him? As long as one was not subjecting someone as their LORD, or as a false Son of God - Paul suggested doing good under the governing authorities in order to stay out of trouble, or even worse dying.

Submission to Governing Authorities​

Romans 1:13 Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. 4 For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience.

6 This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God’s servants, who give their full time to governing. 7 Give to everyone what you owe them: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.

(My opinion in no way may reflect the view or opinions of others)

Love to you, Brake, may you carry on and stay strong,
Matthew

This is probably not about health care as it is enforcing vaccination status.

 

[David in NJ]

More dictatoring and attempts to force vaccines on people is what I see. Probably would deny people health care that haven't been vaccinated.

In fact when I went to my CF specialist last year I had to either have a current COVID test shown to be negative or be fully vaccinated just to get in. It was alarming. But then CF is a dangerous condition which COVID can kill it's patients. So what do I know?

Do not fear covid.

Definitely fear and avoid their vaxx

 

[dev553344]

Do not fear covid.

Definitely fear and avoid their vaxx

I already got vaccinated. I felt impressed to get the vaccine but avoid boosters. They really force feed you the boosters though. I've had to flat out tell them "no I don't want any booster shots" and get chewed out by doctors for it.

My father and I both got vaccinated, I did it for my health since I have CF and could die if I got COVID. But both of us are refusing boosters. I mean how many have they had now, boosters. My sister gets the boosters automatically cause she lives in a home care place. She now has an enlarged heart valve. I'm skeptic that the boosters did that to her.

 

[dev553344]

Here's the info that makes sense, and it basically says that booster shots really don't offer better protection against COVID:

"When the researchers compared the immune responses of people who got a booster dose of the original shot to people who got the updated bivalent boosters, they looked about the same." https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/26/health/updated-boosters-omicron-imprint/index.html

 

[MatthewG]

Hi Matt

It is interesting how a couple words and/or bible headlines can direct our thoughts.

I used to read this section in light of how you posted…. but then one day I actually read it…

This section is not talking about government ….

Think in terms if first century leadership in the Church and the gift ministries that people like Timbo (Timothy) Paul and others had. Most of the translations are not great and lean towards government, but reading what is written …you will see this is not about government authorities…. it about ordaned leadership in the body of Christ.

Don’t let the words tribute or render send your thoughts to the “render under Caesar” that is not the tribute it is referring to.

Should i hate my american government and cause trouble for the police?

Anarchy is good?

Love to you Tommy, and carry on brother,
Matthew

 

[MatthewG]

This is probably not about health care as it is enforcing vaccination status.

It seems people will grip about the smallest of issues.

It would be different if we had a dictator.

Some places do, and its unfortuante but Christ is still found, or atleast God by the nature of creation.

Praise be to him,

Love to you, and hope you brother doing well, carry on,

Matthew

 

[MatthewG]

My docter told me who could perscribe me something from withdrawls of meth.

He told me his philosphy was why take anything?

Human beings choose how the interact in this world and sometimes i believe it can bring froth an overactive imagination for some

But not everyone is the same

Im okay with that

In the Bible it talks about respectinf government

And none of them yet to claim to be the Son of God

I dont seem killing christians for not submitting to someone as the Son of God.

Not so sure i ever will

So take it for what its worth Devin

 

[MatthewG]

Alot people are just unhappy with there lives so they look at the world and complain instead of looking at Yahava and being thankful

Honestly that is what i really think

They chase after worldly things and wordly wisdom… numbing the existence of the afterlife and the spiritual blessing that come when yoh do finally leave this life

Even being thankful of having ability to talk with Yahava and having the spirit now today


Its a sad mentality out there

 

[ButterflyJones]

Please keep in mind that the 'Aliens' are real but are not what we are being told.

FYI = the Big Lie/Delusion is nothing new but has already been

FYI = Go to the TV Series 'Ancient Aliens' and listen to the 'Opening Dialogue' of the show.

I love AA.

 

[Nancy]

This is a really good thread for these end days. Perhaps we all should use it as a place to put updates about these things. We'll get our daily news on here hahaha!

Even though Satan knows the bible well, does he "understand it"? The scriptures are "spiritually discerned" so that makes me question how much he actually understands, as he obviously does not have the Spirit of God living in him.
Just some thoughts.

 

[David in NJ]

I love AA.

ditto

 

[David in NJ]

This is a really good thread for these end days. Perhaps we all should use it as a place to put updates about these things. We'll get our daily news on here hahaha!

Even though Satan knows the bible well, does he "understand it"? The scriptures are "spiritually discerned" so that makes me question how much he actually understands, as he obviously does not have the Spirit of God living in him.
Just some thoughts.

Hello Nancy

As i read your post here, this jumped out in front of me = Revelation 12:12

"Therefore rejoice, O heavens, and you who dwell in them! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and the sea!
For the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has a short time.”

Peace and Good Night my Sister

 

[quietthinker]

Hello Nancy

As i read your post here, this jumped out in front of me = Revelation 12:12

"Therefore rejoice, O heavens, and you who dwell in them! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and the sea!
For the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has a short time.”

Peace and Good Night my Sister

Of course he understands it. It give him the advantage of inventing 501 ways of distortion. The question is, how does one discern a distortion from the real deal?....ie, what is the factor (s)?