Post #2.
see that conjunction "AND" there between Father, Lord, Saviour? it's the same person, who is God. let's prove it out. question How many saviours are there? answer ONE, let the record speak. Isaiah 43:11 "I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour". ok GodsGrace, now you have a problem. in your trinity it states that the Father is not the son and vice versa, right. ok, if the LORD, all caps, says he is the ONLY saviour, then this MUST be the Lord Jesus Speaking, because the Lord Jesus is the ONLY Saviour of men. and if this is the Lord Jesus speaking here, then it's the Lord Jesus speaking through out the OT as the Spirit, or the Holy ONE, or the LORD all caps. now to prove this, his, (the Lord Jesus title is the Father, OT as well as the son NT). listen to the record, Isaiah 9:6 "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace". there he is, "the EVERLASTING who? FATHER. GodsGrace, now you have another problem, but much bigger. that Child that was born, that son that was given is the "EVERLASTING FATHER", and he's the MIGHTY GOD. and if separate as your doctrine states, then you have TWO GODS, as well as TWO FATHERS. and you know what that is?, answer, polytheism, and you do know what that means right, it's a heresy. now GodsGrace, how many Father is there? ONLY ONE. scripture, Malachi 2:10 "Have we not all one father? hath not one God created us? why do we deal treacherously every man against his brother, by profaning the covenant of our fathers?". scripture don't lie. now let's eliminate this notion of God as the Father misunderstanding in the New testament. listen to the scriptures, James 1:27 "Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world". did you see how the apostle James stated his wording. listen, "God and the Father". how come our brother Jame didn't say "God the Father?". no he said, "God AND the Father". now GodsGrace, is this one person or two. is this God one person, and Father another separate person as your trinity states?, of course not, it's the SAME ONE PERSON. just like this scripture that so many ignorantly miss, listen. John 17:3 "And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent". so GodsGrace is this one or two person..... (smile). see your mistake. if you're going to used the conjunction "and" in one place then one will have to use it in every place when it come to identifying the PERSON in the Godhead. now with that information, this should take care of the rest of your church fathers statements.
now my conclusion. DIVERSITY was taught in the very beginning (Genesis 1:1), and it was taught by the Lord Jesus, (GOD), who created and made everything, (meaning him the ONLY Spirit). the whole bible is about God coming in his own image, "MAN" flesh and bone with blood and saving his creation. this was taught of God, in Spirit to the prophets. proof, 1 Peter 1:10 "Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you: 11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow". GG, I hope you don't mind me calling you that, short for GodGrace. that's where Christ was, he was IN, IN, IN, IN, the prophets of Old. that's where our Lord was at, Spirit, without flesh, without bone, and without blood. just read some of the OT prophets, many states something like this, 1 Samuel 15:10 "Then came the word of the LORD unto Samuel, saying", or 1 Kings 6:11 "And the word of the LORD came to Solomon, saying". or 1 Kings 16:1 "Then the word of the LORD came to Jehu the son of Hanani against Baasha, saying". or Isaiah 38:4 "Then came the word of the LORD to Isaiah, saying". or Jeremiah 1:11 "Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, Jeremiah, what seest thou? And I said, I see a rod of an almond tree". just one more, and there are many more prophets whom the "WORD" came to, Ezekiel 1:3 "The word of the LORD came expressly unto Ezekiel the priest, the son of Buzi, in the land of the Chaldeans by the river Chebar; and the hand of the LORD was there upon him". now GG, who is the "WORD" of the LORD? answer GOD HIMSELF. understand the prepositions "OF". of translates the genitive case of nouns, of these the subjective and objective are mentioned. I know you understand the the subjective and objective right. as the subjective "of" is the Spirit, the Same one Person. then when he came, or shared himself in flesh, he is now the "objective" of himself here on earth. simply meaning he manifested himself in flesh. that's what the genitive case of nouns do. I suggest you study that. yes, (JESUS), GOD, he taught it to the REAL early church Fathers, who we have their letters, meaning the Genesis letters to the Revelation letters.
GG, I'm not about arguing or judging ok, but about TRUTH. now if you want to compare your doctrine against HIS which is now mine, for he gave it to me to teach. I'll be glad to discuss both our doctrine, and see if your or his line up with his word. understand, if you believe that your doctrine is true, then let's put it to the test. for the word of God is fire, and the fire will burn up false doctrine. I'll be looking to hear from you.
peace in Christ Jesus.
