Post #2. “THE SON”
II. The 4th century Nicene Creed (325). “And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, begotten of the Father [the only-begotten; that is, of the essence of the Father, God of God,] Light of Light, very God of very God, begotten, not made, being of one substance with the Father”.
The 4th century Nicene Creed of Constantinople (381). “And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, begotten of the Father before all worlds (æons), Light of Light, very God of very God, begotten, not made, being of one substance with the Father”
The Nicene Creed (325), states God of God? This was the first trinitarian lie that was caught. Because if the Son is God of God, and separate and distinct, That’s two separate Gods. But did one notice the correction in the (381) statement? They dropped the “God from God” that was in the (325) creed. The God of God and separate and distinct created a problem, so it was dropped. Now think for a monument, why would you have to drop something that God suppose to have given you. Notice these are the so-called church fathers here.
Next LIE. It states the Son was “begotten” BEFORE all the worlds. If the Son was begotten before the worlds, #1. how can he be Co-equal? 2. if begotten before the world, please how, and what method was used in this begetting before the worlds? So how was the son begotten.
The third LIE, if the Son is ETERNAL, (which he is), how can a ETERNAL being be “begotten?”. because “Eternal means no beginning… STOP ….. do one see the lie now? Especially when they say before the worlds. Eternity has no beginning. Let’s continue on to the next Creed LIE.
III. “begotten, not made, of one Being with the Father”
Both say “begotten” …. before the worlds, which we know is untrue, but what about “MADE?”.
The Creed states, “NOT “Made”, let’s see what the bible say, John 1:14 "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth”. well that contradict John 1:14. let’s look at this LIE closely.
“eternally begotten”
When did this take place? They say Before creation, and reading their commentary as why before creation. since, as John notes, the world was made by the Word [the Son]. Such an "action" on the part of God takes place outside of his Creation, outside of time itself. It is not an "event" closed by time, but a way of being within God himself. That is why we say that the Son is "eternally begotten" of the Father”. THIS IS THEIR COMMENTARY.
If it’s outside of time then that’s an error because to be outside of time which is eternity, there is no beginning and no end, THERE IS ONLY A BEGINING AND A END “WITHIN” CREATION. So to say begotten outside of time is an ERROR. For time is a creation itself. As said, eternity, there is NO TIME. Another “LIE” of the creed.
Now let’s examine this “begotten” vs “Made”
MADE: G1096 γίνομαι ginomai (ǰiy'-no-mai) v.
1. to cause to be (“gen”-erate).
2. (reflexively) to become (come into being).
3. (of events) to happen.
{used with great latitude (literal, figurative, intensive, etc.):}
[a prolongation and middle voice form of a primary verb]
KJV: arise, be assembled, be(-come, -fall, -have self), be brought (to pass), (be) come (to pass), continue, be divided, draw, be ended, fall, be finished, follow, be found, be fulfilled, + God forbid, grow, happen, have, be kept, be made, be married, be ordained to be, partake, pass, be performed, be published, require, seem, be showed, X soon as it was, sound, be taken, be turned, use, wax, will, would, be wrought
BEGOTTEN: G3439 μονογενής monogenes (mo-no-ǰe-nees') adj.
only-born (i.e. sole).
[from G3441 and G1084]
KJV: only (begotten, child)
Root(s): G3441, G1084
Question, “What was GENERATED in Mary’s womb?” flesh, what was BORN of Mary? Flesh. Now, was there any flesh before the WORLD? Or TIME? No. So what was begotten and made was in time after the worlds was made. That’s according to John 1:14 the word of God. So who are you going to believe? The creed of men or God?. your choice.
PICJAG.