John 6 and the bread from heaven

[amigo de christo]

Bodies as in many members of the one.
So when he says bodies, is Paul speaking of "churches" ?
To the church that is at..... and to the church that is at.....
Even though there be "many bodies" or "many churches" ...
To the church which is at... that they all speak the same thing as one body.

digging

THUS DOCTRINE DOES MATTER . they all speak THE SAME Thing .
take note paul didnt say , HEY lets overlook our differences of doctrine and just BE ONE .
OOPS that ol all inclusive liar sure is sneaky AINT HE .
He has come , that be the DEVIL , within christendom to seduce all to a lie that wont save .
and he calls his lie , LOVE and his love has made the way SO VERY VERY BROAD TO GOD
that even the one true gospel has become its enemy . BINGO ZIGGY . that is what THIS LOVEY DO CRAP
was all about . TO CONVINCE the world , its religoins and christendom to merge as one
And that there is NO NEED TO BELIEVE ON JESUS , just believe on my love IT SAYS . OOPS that love aint saving DUNG doo the doo either .
IT wont save . IN fact that broad inclusive gather all as one love has and is making their hearts VERY HARD against
THE ONE TRUE GOSPEL THAT DO SAVE . cause that gospel IS EXCLUSIVE , IT DIVIDES , ITS NOT LOVE , so they say and so they beleive .
ITS GETTING worse ziggy . worse . but this lamb gonna preach and remind , tell and continue to tell of
the one , the only , the ONE AND ONLY , GOSPEL and NAME THAT ONE MUST BELEIVE ON TO BE SAVED . JESUS CHRIST .
BUDDA aint saving squat , MUHAMMED aint saving squat . TRODDING THE DIRE NECESSITY OF JESUS CHRIST UNDER FOOT
saves one only TO BE APPOINTED TO THE WRATH OF GOD . and now that kind of saving dont end well , NOW DO IT .

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I wish I could remember what they were talking about on the radio the other day about someone teaching you how to send a text. How to be careful if the one teaching you as an expert on how to send a text…sends you a text by email. It’s like…you’re going to be the one teaching me about texting and yet you text me an email? Big red flag…probably doesn’t make sense but it made sense at the time.

Thats why we should never listen to men but to God himself

Again, Jesus said whoever eats this bread will live forever.

We need to listen to him

If people tell you you can eat that bread and still die.. then it would be like telling you 2 + 2 = 5. Or it owuld be like sending you a text via email.

run from them. Because they do not have truth

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I have no delight in the food of corruption or in the delights of this life .
Sounds wonderful indeed .
SO allow me a question dear phillip . HOW come so many within the realm of what is commonly called
christainity feeding from the words of men , accepting and honoring CERTAIN sins , even calling certain sins LOVE .
CAUSE that sure seems to contradict the TRUE BREAD , the true words of CHRIST and of the apostels .
SEEMS to me like many can quoate things verbatum , and yet the direction they take one
seemth to contradict GOD . Cause the one i know who first did that and even tried it on CHRIST
was THE DEVIL . DO remember that the DEVIL can quaote , VERBATUM , the scrips .
AND YET he will use this word for word quoate in a way that WILL CONTRADICT GOD , CHRIST .
example . The devil will and can surely say GOD IS LOVE
but then will use that perfectly TRUE QUOATE to imply ONE DOES NOT HAVE TO BELIEVE ON JESUS CHRIST
He will even call certain sins as love . THE DEVIL IS and has MADE a very , and philip do i ever mean , VERY BROAD WAY TO GOD .
SO allow this flea a few words to remind us of exactly what HE did in the garden . And how he got EVE to TRUST HIM
to BELEIVE HIM rather than GOD .
Eve told him , WE shall not eat of the tree in the midst of the garden of GOD , for in that day we eat of it
we shall surely die . PROOF that eve DID indeed believe what GOD had said .
BUT , the serpent is very wise and he will allure to the flesh of mankind .
FOR he said , NAY , NAY ye shall not surely die , and then said a truth , YE shall become as gods knowing good and evil .
WHICH in fact DID happen , but THEY ALSO DIED .
NOW the serpent made it seem like GOD was indeed wrong about their death , and that eating of the tree was in reality
GOOD FOR THEM . Now GOD even says they have become as us to know good and evil . SO THAT DID HAPPEN .
BUT THEY DIED . You see HE got eve to BELEIVE HIM and NOT TO BELIEVE what GOD had said .
NOW lets look at this all inclusive love spell of his .
Now visualize this please .
HAS GOD said YE must believe in JESUS CHRIST to be saved . And the church , the wife of CHRIST
says , YES , GOD did say WE must believe and that if one hears and believes not that will be damned .
NAY NAY sayeth the serpent , they will not be damned if they hear and believe not
FOR GOD IS LOVE . All they need to do is just have love . YA SEE HOW THE DEVIL LIES . HE uses GOD IS LOVE
as a means TO OMIT what GOD SAID , what JESUS SAID . HE IS DOING IT AGAIN . and christendom IS BUYING IT UP
and calling it love , believing all religoins are fine as long as they love their neighbor . THEY BEING GATHERED AS ONE
to SATAN , NOT GOD , as one to ANTI CHRIST and not CHRIST .
And under no circumstances IS JESUS THE MINSTIR OF SIN , SO I ALSO SUGGEST folks quit heeding the love of money prosperity
gospel and quit PUTTING UP RAINBOWS in them churches . WE are in DIRE TROUBLE PHILLIP .
a very strong delusoin that calls itself love has entered in and tis NO LOVE OF GOD , it cometh of the world and through
the flesh will allure the world, its religoins and even christendom to rise as one UNDER A lie of a love that will SAVE NONE
and DAMN all who bought and taught it .

The pharisees could quote the OT verbatim.

Yet the still crucified christ.

its one thing to know the word. Its a far different thing to KNOW the word.

to know it you just have to read it.

To KNOW it you have to gnaw and chew on it. And once its power has come in you. You have to trust it.

If you do, you will find the thing that you ate that in eating you will never die.

 

[amigo de christo]

God chose the Levites instead of the first borns, male.. God is the Levites inheritance. Nu 18:20

I told the Lord if I could choose a tribe and strangers and sojourners could do that... I would choose being a Levite. We are told in revelations we are kings and priests the priests were the Levites. Plus I wanted Him God as my inheritance

I chose He who came of the TRIBE OF JUDA , the TRUE GREAT HIGH PREIST , the TRUE KING of kings .
THAT BE JESUS CHRIST . be encouraged . And yes HE did make us kings and priests .
HOWEVER i do FEEL the DIRE NEED to REMIND US ALL OF SOMETHING . TAKE NOTE I SAID ALL OF US ME TOO .
HEY KINGS , ya aint got the golden crowns yet , HEY KINGS KIDS , try walking like JESUS WHO THOUGH HE WAS AND IS
THE KING OF KINGS , the GREAT HIGH PREIST , WORE A CROWN of THORNS .
JUST a friendly and ever HUMBLE reminder that we AINT THE BIG THANG . BUT THAT GOD , HIS CHRIST GETTETH ALL THE GLORY

 

[rwb]

The pharisees could quote the OT verbatim.

Yet the still crucified christ.

its one thing to know the word. Its a far different thing to KNOW the word.

to know it you just have to read it.

To KNOW it you have to gnaw and chew on it. And once its power has come in you. You have to trust it.

If you do, you will find the thing that you ate that in eating you will never die.

I like this! I would add not only must we KNOW the Word, it is also imperative that the WORD (Christ) also knows us.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

Thats why we should never listen to men but to God himself

Again, Jesus said whoever eats this bread will live forever.

We need to listen to him

If people tell you you can eat that bread and still die.. then it would be like telling you 2 + 2 = 5. Or it owuld be like sending you a text via email.

run from them. Because they do not have truth

Paul I think gives a good example of the bread when he is with one too afraid to eat and one who is weak …I always wondered why Paul didn’t try to prove a point or tell the brother how wrong he was. That blows my mind. Why wasn’t Paul disgusted or saying I have to fix this weak or without knowledge mindset of this one. Instead Paul said if he harmed a weak brother then he sinned against Christ. Instead he shows the weaker brother strength (Imo) of “My love is made perfect in weakness” by not using His meat or His bread or His knowledge to destroy one without those things or one who lacked those things: bread, meat, drink for thirst, one without any clothing. So i wonder if we say we eat of the bread of Christ and then do the opposite of what that bread we claim to have tasted of, I wonder if we are even aware what Christ meant when He said “I am that bread.” Just thinking out loud…it’s like drinking the cool-aide remark … just because someone says they are the cool-aide and have drank the cool-aide and to live you must drink the Same cool-aide ..that doesn’t mean I necessarily want to drink it too. Maybe that is a horrible example but I’m trying to say when Christ said “I am the bread” that feeds the hungry then if by nature than bread doesn’t resemble the one who said “I am the bread” …I’m not sure I want to eat that bread.

 

[Mr E]

The pharisees could quote the OT verbatim.

Yet the still crucified christ.

its one thing to know the word. Its a far different thing to KNOW the word.

to know it you just have to read it.

To KNOW it you have to gnaw and chew on it. And once its power has come in you. You have to trust it.

If you do, you will find the thing that you ate that in eating you will never die.

ahhh.... so close. People approach the truth, then when they catch a good look at it, they turn and run away in fearfulness because it challenges everything they've ever believed. It challenges their core concepts.

Once folks recognize that this bread is knowledge, and understanding, and wisdom-- the logos (Word) of the Father sent from heaven, only then do they have a hope of understanding what Jesus was even talking about. This "bread" that he "ate" that was inside of him. This 'bread' that he 'broke' and shared with others.

It isn't something he lived on. It's what he lived for.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I like this! I would add not only must we KNOW the Word, it is also imperative that the WORD (Christ) also knows us.

Yes, we do not want to be of those he says depart for I NEVER KNEW YOU

 

[amigo de christo]

Yes, we do not want to be of those he says depart for I NEVER KNEW YOU

Its what the all incluisive love lie and those who bought into it are GONNA get TOLD .
IF that which ye have HEARD from the beginning SHALL REMAIN IN YOU THEN YOU shall CONTINUE in THE SON and IN THE FATHER .
so much for broad road all inclusive many path go spell . Cause that aint what IT SAYS . It says other religoins and etc are fine
as long as they have this so called love your neighbor as yourself . I got real bad and scary news
for those who did abandon the one and only true gospel of JESUS CHRIST which IS ADMANT abou SAYING ye MUST BELIEVE IN HIM
and have went hog wild into this inclusive pile of what i will best describe as rotted dung many path fake love to GOD LIE .

 

[VictoryinJesus]

Yes, we do not want to be of those he says depart for I NEVER KNEW YOU

I do. I want Him to say He never knew no sin. I want Him to remove it so far that He says “I never knew you who works iniquity.” Instead of “you who works iniquity” if any be in Christ “you are a New Creature” old things have passed away are forgotten.all things become New. Yes, I want Him to say “I never knew you who works iniquity!” That is how far I pray He removes -cast off—the one who works iniquity! So far it becomes “I never knew you! Depart from Me!”

Please God, I want to hear “I never knew you sinner” what a great and hopeful thing to hear from God…it’s “dead” what is happening with the sword that enters the heart!

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Paul I think gives a good example of the bread when he is with one too afraid to eat and one who is weak …I always wondered why Paul didn’t try to prove a point or tell the brother how wrong he was. That blows my mind. Why wasn’t Paul disgusted or saying I have to fix this weak or without knowledge mindset of this one. Instead Paul said if he harmed a weak brother then he sinned against Christ. Instead he shows the weaker brother strength (Imo) of “My love is made perfect in weakness” by not using His meat or His bread or His knowledge to destroy one without those things or one who lacked those things: bread, meat, drink for thirst, one without any clothing. So i wonder if we say we eat of the bread of Christ and then do the opposite of what that bread we claim to have tasted of, I wonder if we are even aware what Christ meant when He said “I am that bread.” Just thinking out loud…it’s like drinking the cool-aide remark … just because someone says they are the cool-aide and have drank the cool-aide and to live you must drink the Same cool-aide ..that doesn’t mean I necessarily want to drink it too. Maybe that is a horrible example but I’m trying to say when Christ said “I am the bread” that feeds the hungry then if by nature than bread doesn’t resemble the one who said “I am the bread” …I’m not sure I want to eat that bread.

Again, I am not sure what your trying to say.

I am not sure what it is but it seems everytime we talk. You say these things that make no sense as to what I am saying

of course Paul is not going to berate a younger brother with bread.

The point is, if they are a true brother. They have already consumed the bread and been born again, and have eternal life.

In the same token. When false teachers come in. Paul calls them and he is not shy about doing that..even calling those who follow the false teachers fools (gal 3)

 

[VictoryinJesus]

Again, I am not sure what your trying to say.

I am not sure what it is but it seems everytime we talk. You say these things that make no sense as to what I am saying

of course Paul is not going to berate a younger brother with bread.

The point is, if they are a true brother. They have already consumed the bread and been born again, and have eternal life.

In the same token. When false teachers come in. Paul calls them and he is not shy about doing that..even calling those who follow the false teachers fools (gal 3)

I don’t a clause where Paul said “if he is real brother” or “a true brother” instead “for one Christ died for”

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I do.

You want God to say depart for he never Knew you who practice unrighteousness to outer darkness?

Oh my!

I want Him to say He never knew no sin. I want Him to remove it so far that He says “I never knew you who works iniquity.” Instead of “you who works iniquity” if any be in Christ “you are a New Creature” old things have passed away are forgotten.all things become New. Yes, I want Him to say “I never knew you who works iniquity!” That is how far I pray He removes -cast off—the one who works iniquity! So far it becomes “I never knew you! Depart from Me!”

Please God, I want to hear “I never knew you sinner” what a great and hopeful thing to hear from God…it’s “dead” what is happening with the sword that enters the heart!

Those are the worse words you can hear. Because if he says this to you. You will never see him, or life again.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I don’t a clause where Paul said “if he is real brother” or “a true brother” instead “for one Christ died for”

Christ died for all

But not all will recieve him, hence not all will be a true brother or sister.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

You want God to say depart for he never Knew you who practice unrighteousness to outer darkness?

Oh my!

Those are the worse words you can hear. Because if he says this to you. You will never see him, or life again.

for Him to say depart from Me you goat, I never knew you…I will keep the Lamb. No I don’t think it would be so horrible to hear “I never knew you who works iniquity” …that is basically what Christianity has been saying for years how God doesn’t see our sins but instead sees Christ. Yet…we use those verses of hearing that dreaded “depart you who work iniquity I never knew you” as some weapon of a curse…what if it’s a blessing?

 

[Ziggy]

Again, I am not sure what your trying to say.

I am not sure what it is but it seems everytime we talk. You say these things that make no sense as to what I am saying

of course Paul is not going to berate a younger brother with bread.

The point is, if they are a true brother. They have already consumed the bread and been born again, and have eternal life.

In the same token. When false teachers come in. Paul calls them and he is not shy about doing that..even calling those who follow the false teachers fools (gal 3)

I think what VJ is saying, is the bread is to be harmless.
The bread is the lessons we learn how to relate with people.
The bread IS the teaching.

I think that's what VJ is saying..
Hugs

 

[Eternally Grateful]

for Him to say depart from Me you goat, I never knew you…I will keep the Lamb. No I don’t think it would be so horrible to hear “I never knew you who works iniquity” …that is basically what Christianity has been saying for years how God doesn’t see our sins but instead sees Christ. Yet…we use those verses of hearing that dreaded “depart you who work iniquity I never knew you” as some weapon of a curse…what if it’s a blessing?

Where do you come up with this stuff?

He says this to people who stand in front of him boasting aff all the world they did not Jesus name as if that is why they deserve heaven.

He says he never knew THESE INDUVIDUALS.

Matt 7: 21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he whodoes the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have wenot prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

Luke 13:
23 Then one said to Him, “Lord, are there few who are saved?”

And He said to them, 24 “Strive to enter through the narrow gate, for many, I say to you, will seek to enter and will not be able. 25 When once the Master of the house has risen up andshut the door, and you begin to stand outside and knock at the door, saying, ‘Lord, Lord, open for us,’ and He will answer and say to you, ‘I do not know you, where you are from,’ 26 then you will begin to say, ‘We ate and drank in Your presence, and You taught in our streets.’ 27 But He will say, ‘I tell you I do not know you, where you are from. Depart from Me, all you workers of iniquity.’ 28 There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when you see Abraham and Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets in the kingdom of God, and yourselves thrust out.


If jesus says to you. You are thrust out of heaven, never to return.

It’s not that he says he never knew the sin part of you. It is that he never KNEW YOU

 

[Marymog]

you deny the power of Jesus words. You deny everything that he said we must do to reach an eternity with God

Lol....No, I do not "deny everything that he said we must do to reach an eternity with God".

I tried to quote EVERYTHING He said that we must do to reach eternity. When I did quote EVERYTHING you told me I couldn't.

YOU put restrictions on that.

So please stop that NONSENSE.....

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I think what VJ is saying, is the bread is to be harmless.
The bread is the lessons we learn how to relate with people.
The bread IS the teaching.

I think that's what VJ is saying..
Hugs

Listen to his words

He is saying the bread is not important..

The bread is harmless when someone tells you the bread is not what it really is..

but it is the most important doctrine you will ever Receive because without the bread of life. Yu have no hope

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Lol....No, I do not "deny everything that he said we must do to reach an eternity with God".

I tried to quote EVERYTHING He said that we must do to reach eternity. When I did quote EVERYTHING you told me I couldn't.

YOU put restrictions on that.

So please stop that NONSENSE.....

No

You ADD things to that

I do not put restrictions on it, THAT is nonsense.

What is nonsense is you can do one work that will cause God to forgive one sin to let you into heaven

That is restrictive, because it restricts you from seeing the truth