In this you rejoice,
though now for a little while, if necessary, you have been grieved by various trials, so that the tested genuineness of your faith—more precious than gold that perishes though it is tested by fire—may be found to result in praise and glory and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ. Though you have not seen him, you love him. Though you do not now see him, you believe in him and rejoice with joy that is inexpressible and filled with glory, obtaining the outcome of your faith, the salvation of your souls. -
1 Peter 1:3–9
various trials ...tested by fire to try the
genuineness of Faith. Considered your post for several days and hate to keep coming back but it remains on my mind. My brother is in ICU. For one) my head is not functioning right but I still do not understand how this does not connect to the passage of the day of the Lord will try the work ...whether it be genuine or as in the parable where it withers, is scorched and burned up by the heat, consumed, has no root and once ‘persecution’ comes
for the sake of the word ...to try whether the Faith be genuine it becomes offended and falls or goes away. Offended when ‘travail’ cometh instead of the word sent to John ‘blessed is he who is not offended in Me.’
Wadr how does one address ‘with persecutions’ in Mark 10:30 But he shall
receive an hundredfold now in this time, houses, and brethren, and sisters, and mothers, and children, and lands,
with persecutions; and in the world to come eternal life.
he shall receive an hundredfold now in this time ...
with persecutions. With contractions ‘pangs’. You are a mother yes? Consider those contractions which are hell but necessary...not just necessary in ‘time draws near’ but also what part do those contractions ‘pangs’ have in deliverance (giving birth)? If I’m not mistaken, without the pangs how would there be a delivery?
‘Though you have not seen him, you love him. Though you do not now see him, you believe in him and rejoice with joy that is inexpressible and filled with glory, obtaining the outcome...the outcome of deliverance with unspeakable joy which Christ said ‘no man taketh it from you’ whom you haven’t seen, but you love with hope and expectation of delivery of a child.
Like you I also struggle to make a point clear though I try. Is the travail, tribulation, pains, contractions not the same? Yet in one case it is the persecutions and tribulation that come ...and then upon those not his it is said to be a different kind of fire to try burning them up and consuming. Does that line up with the word though which says it comes upon all, for God is not a respecter of persons. (Imo)His word shows a travail where what is conceived is wasted and consumed and produces nothing. Same trial it appears, ‘to test the quality’ whether it be of God or men...not being different in the testing but different in ‘endures and is born’ a joy, a hope, with contractions ...a persecution for His Namesake. The travail and ‘pangs’ necessary in deliverance ‘though it be tried’ whether there is death or Life.
(imo) in the following hear ‘contractions’ upon all Romans 8:18-26 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time
are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us. [19] For the earnest
expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God. [20] For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope, [21] Because the creature itself
also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. [22] For
we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now. [23] And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit,
even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body. [24] For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for? [25] But if we hope for that we see not,
then do we with patience wait for it. (for our joy Christ to be made full) [26] Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh
intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.