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[JellyJam]

At judgement day, the Lord of hosts will decide who is in the book of life, and who is not. Those who are not found in the book of life will be tossed into the fiery pit's of hell.

Hell will be a place seperated from the coming new creation, but as the Bible points out, there is a chasm inbetween both places.

The new creation must be infinitely large, either the place itself or the place outside itself. Because how can you distinguish a place as a place if it has boundaries but no outside.

Hell must also meet these same conditions.

So therefore we have

+1 infinite universe (The new creation)

And

+2 infinite universe (Hell)

And a 0 (Chasm inbetween)

Think of two houses on opposite sides of the street. The people in house +1 can't go over to the people in house +2. The people in house +2 can't go over to the people in house +1.

If this is the case then the new creation and hell must be in the same location, with another infinite universe outside there boundary lines.

Such as the earth and the sun, being the only two place's in eternity.

Taking this further, both heaven & hell must be a ball. (With a surface) Both being planets, one for the saved and one for the dammed.

The Lord of hosts lives with the saved.

Satan and his fallen angels lives with the dammed.

But if the 0 (Chasm) is all that's inbetween, existing for the sole purpose of distinguishing only two place's. Then those place's are both prison's, and the Lord of hosts will become a prisoner of his own creation.

 

[Helen]

So, are you sober tonight?

I don't go with the accepted traditions myself.

I believe we all came out of God, every tree and flower too.

...and we all will go back into Him.

To some it will be heaven, to some it will be hell.

There is nothing outside of God.

But that is just what I believe!

 

[JellyJam]

So, are you sober tonight?

I don't go with the accepted traditions myself.

I believe we all came out of God, every tree and flower too.

...and we all will go back into Him.

To some it will be heaven, to some it will be hell.

There is nothing outside of God.

But that is just what I believe!

The Bible does say there is a hell Grace, even Jesus pointed that out.


11. Matthew 13:42-43 And the angels will throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Then the righteous will shine like the sun in their Father’s Kingdom. Anyone with ears to hear should listen and understand!

This is just one verse here. But If you look honestly, you will find numerous verses where Jesus spoke about hell.

I think in your case Grace that you have rejected that teaching, because of your own sense of fairness. But you're also rejecting a core doctrine that Jesus spoke himself, which means you don't agree with Jesus on that point.

 

[JellyJam]

So, are you sober tonight?

I don't go with the accepted traditions myself.

I believe we all came out of God, every tree and flower too.

...and we all will go back into Him.

To some it will be heaven, to some it will be hell.

There is nothing outside of God.

But that is just what I believe!

As for the drinking question, do you want me to lie to you Grace so you will feel at ease?

Because, as one schizophrenic said to me a while ago.

"What other people do has nothing to do with you, and what you do has nothing to do with other people"

Right?

 

[stunnedbygrace]

That's a ridiculous statement. Another case of speaking before you think.

My robbing a bank and waving a gun around, then shooting 3 people in the bank, has nothing to do with other people?

I abuse my child and it only effects me?

 

[JellyJam]

That's a ridiculous statement. Another case of speaking before you think.

My robbing a bank and waving a gun around, then shooting 3 people in the bank, has nothing to do with other people?

I abuse my child and it only effects me?

So me drinking & smoking effects you how?

 

[stunnedbygrace]

It doesn't. But to make the statement that what you do never affects anyone else is what is ridiculous.

But people have every right to not want talk with you when you are blotto, but rather when you are somewhat sober.
You make more sense when you aren't wasted.

 

[JellyJam]

It doesn't. But to make the statement that what you do never affects anyone else is what is ridiculous.

But people have every right to not want talk with you when you are blotto, but rather when you are somewhat sober.
You make more sense when you aren't wasted.

Did I say that, really? Maybe you should re-read what I quoted.

As for this alcohol stuff.

James 5:9
Do not complain, brethren, against one another, so that you yourselves may not be judged; behold, the Judge is standing right at the door.

 

[Helen]

@JellyJam Sorry I brought up the booze. But it was you the night before that mentioned that your posts didn't make sense because you were drunk.
If you didn't want us the know...why bother to tell us ?

Have a good day..or night...I forget which now LOL

 

[stunnedbygrace]

Did I say that, really? Maybe you should re-read what I quoted.

As for this alcohol stuff.

James 5:9
Do not complain, brethren, against one another, so that you yourselves may not be judged; behold, the Judge is standing right at the door.

No one is complaining that you drink. It is not complaining to prefer that someone you are conversing with be somewhat sober.

 

[JellyJam]

@JellyJam Sorry I brought up the booze. But it was you the night before that mentioned that your posts didn't make sense because you were drunk.
If you didn't want us the know...why bother to tell us ?

Have a good day..or night...I forget which now LOL

I say lot's of thing's about myself & my life, do I not?

 

[JellyJam]

No one is complaining that you drink. It is not complaining to prefer that someone you are conversing with be somewhat sober.

You're right, you seem to be the only one.

Why?

 

[stunnedbygrace]

You think I am the only one who would prefer to converse with a sober person...?

 

[JellyJam]

You think I am the only one who would prefer to converse with a sober person...?

And do you think I am the only one who would prefer to converse with a rational person...!

 

[bbyrd009]

And do you think I am the only one who would prefer to converse with a rational person...!

Not sure how fair that is, religion is not ezackly rational? For that matter neither is hate your life, hate your family

 

[JellyJam]

Not sure how fair that is, religion is not ezackly rational? For that matter neither is hate your life, hate your family

Maybe, what?

 

[bbyrd009]

Maybe, what?

Um. Speaking in tongues maybe infers that...greater concepts be reduced to the language that the learner speaks, and not the learned? Not that I have figured out how to do this yet, don't get me wrong; im still only better than I was. Vince was a um humbling experience, as you have often been

 

[bbyrd009]

At judgement day, the Lord of hosts will decide who is in the book of life, and who is not. Those who are not found in the book of life will be tossed into the fiery pit's of hell.

Hell will be a place seperated from the coming new creation, but as the Bible points out, there is a chasm inbetween both places.

The new creation must be infinitely large, either the place itself or the place outside itself. Because how can you distinguish a place as a place if it has boundaries but no outside.

Hell must also meet these same conditions.

So therefore we have

+1 infinite universe (The new creation)

And

+2 infinite universe (Hell)

And a 0 (Chasm inbetween)

Think of two houses on opposite sides of the street. The people in house +1 can't go over to the people in house +2. The people in house +2 can't go over to the people in house +1.

If this is the case then the new creation and hell must be in the same location, with another infinite universe outside there boundary lines.

Such as the earth and the sun, being the only two place's in eternity.

Taking this further, both heaven & hell must be a ball. (With a surface) Both being planets, one for the saved and one for the dammed.

The Lord of hosts lives with the saved.

Satan and his fallen angels lives with the dammed.

But if the 0 (Chasm) is all that's inbetween, existing for the sole purpose of distinguishing only two place's. Then those place's are both prison's, and the Lord of hosts will become a prisoner of his own creation.

nice, needs interp to believers imo, but ya. maybe BG did that already?
anyway, "tomorrow comes today"