Lake of fire

[Patrick1966]

If we are not found IN CHRIST we shall not be saved!

That's true, but from what are we saved? We are saved from the Lake of Fire but EVERYBODY is saved from eternal death.

 

[Behold]

@rwb.

Why couldnt people die to themselves in the after life?

Its because of this..

"conformed into the Image of Christ"..

See that..... That is what every born again person is "pre-destined" to become.

Paul says that we will "all be changed" and that is that "conforming into the Image of Christ"
This literally means that all the born again will be exactly like Him.

So, the answer to your question is....>Does Jesus need to die to Himself? And as the born again will be conformed to be just like him.......then neither will they.

 

[MatthewG]

if Jesus baptised with holy spirit and fire, snd the fire burns out and away the old person, why cant the lake of fire be the same thing?



You just entirely skip and miss the part where people are outside of the Kingdom, again, its not like they are going to perish if God so wills them to live…

 

[rwb]

@rwb.

As a christian you are suppose to die while you are living to yourself - and sin and become alive unto God


If you die to yourself in this life to live for God,



Why couldnt people die to themselves in the after life?



I leave open the room for the possibility of God getting his will.


“Which is to have no perish”


But many people dont care about that will





Just wanna die or see jesus be with them, and fook everyone else thet deserve hellfire and burning alive (psudeo theolo”) in my opinion.

People physically dead cannot die to themselves in this age or the lake of fire.

 

[MatthewG]

I guess if you don’t believe the soul goes on.

From the Bible, I read everyone’s gonna get a resurrected, spiritual body, so I don’t know, they’re gonna have to have some kind of mind, will, emotion. In my opinion.

 

[MatthewG]

I imagine a guy who could be paralyzed from the neck down never took move again, but inside can still talk even though he cant talk, could have a lot of hatred toward God, the care taker comes by speaks about God, that man in his situation could die to himself, and live more to God, all while being a paralized man.

Dying to the anger, hatred, greed,

 

[MatthewG]

Pushed up

Op

Lake of fire

The lake of fire is commonly known as hell, which is a wrong conception altogether. See hell, the place that held disembodied souls is dumped out. Revelation 20:13 The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged...

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[VictoryinJesus]

I always wondered what Jesus meant by "born from above". I noticed that when we had a recent thread about it, it turned into such a goat rodeo the mods had to shut it down.

Just sharing my thoughts on what “born from above” means to me. I’ve always thought of it as a place like born down from out of the sky. But now to me it means to come down from above, out from the high seat and to take the lower seat. To me this makes sense in you must come down before lifted up in Christ. New birth? “Born from above” consider humbleness and lowly of heart and how Christ although He possessed everything became poor that we may be rich. His “I am from above” and Him who came down from above born of God so that others may be lifted up in Him. The only way to be lifted up. His lowering himself even unto the death of the cross. Consider that which is high (above God)will be brought down. And that which is brought down (below God)will be raised up in Christ. if you consider the heart of say Paul for example “born from above” in the Fruits of God “Grace given to the lowly” for “God resist the proud” Saul …Grace was given to Paul after his birth of coming down from above. To be made low as Paul said I’ve learned how to be both abased and to abound, to be both hungry and have need and to be full. So now I think “born from above” is the condition of the heart and mind which doesn’t fall out of the sky but bears the fruit of Christ “taking off the old man” and “putting on the new man” which is “born” of a humble spirit and with the lowly of heart.