Lake of fire
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Where do bad folks go when they die?
They don't go to heaven where the angels fly
They go down to the lake of fire and fry
Won't see 'em again till the fourth of July
I knew a lady who came from Duluth
She got bit by a dog with a rabid tooth
She went to her grave just a little too soon
Flew away howling on the yellow moon
Where do bad folks go when they die?
They don't go to heaven where the angels fly
They go down to the lake of fire and fry
Won't see 'em again till the fourth of July
The people cry and the people moan
Look for a dry place to call their home
Try to find some place to rest their bones
While the angels and the devils try to make their own
Where do bad folks go when they die?
They don't go to heaven where the angels fly
They go down to the lake of fire and fry
Won't see 'em again till the fourth of July
Did you know the Wrath of God fell upon the nation of Israel, @Behold?
To just quote like that is for a person today. There is the lake of fire, but I believe that is the Wrath of God which was poured out upon the nation of Israel in Ad70.
So even the Wrath of God, doesn't abide upon a person whom wasn't apart of Israel, because "in the Old Testament, it proclaimed the wrath would be poured out among those who disobey concerning the law, even putting Jesus to death."
I don't see the Lake of fire and Gods Wrath relating to same thing though some incorp them.
But alas, people want to just quote random verses and not explain them. The Wrath of God has already been poured out... never do be done so again, as Jesus proclaimed, concerning with his return.
To just quote like that is for a person today. There is the lake of fire, but I believe that is the Wrath of God which was poured out upon the nation of Israel in Ad70.
So even the Wrath of God, doesn't abide upon a person whom wasn't apart of Israel, because "in the Old Testament, it proclaimed the wrath would be poured out among those who disobey concerning the law, even putting Jesus to death."
I don't see the Lake of fire and Gods Wrath relating to same thing though some incorp them.
But alas, people want to just quote random verses and not explain them. The Wrath of God has already been poured out... never do be done so again, as Jesus proclaimed, concerning with his return.
Yes, true, but unfortunately the KJV muddied the waters when they mistranslated multiple words into hell, causing much confusion.
Behold
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You are a deceived Preterist, who believes the Devil is not around.
You dont believe in a literal Hell, even tho Jesus spoke more about Hell then He talked about Heaven.... and during Paul's entire minstry...He wrote about an active SATAN.... who has blindined the minds of people like you, as well as all unbelievers.
Listen,
Unbelievers, who die never born again will not have their day in court in eternity before God, , as their day in court was The Cross of Christ and they had all their life to show up for their eternal acquittal before their Heavenly Judge.
So, they are already Judged... and they will meet John 3:36, "the wrath" as their 2nd death, that is their damnation, which is their eternal life.
= Hell, then the Lake of fire.
Also The "day of Wrath" is not here yet., and the "body of Christ" is "not appointed to it".
Let me show you what is coming.........its coming...
2 Thess 1 -8,9.
JESUS is coming back to take VENGEANCE ........"flaming fire".... on all those who are down here on this Planet.....who "do not obey the Gospel".
Who are those?
Its everyone who never BELIEVED.......and they are going to face not the Lamb.....but the KING.......and He is not please and they are going to find out what that means.
Behold
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"Preterism" is "stupid".
So, find something else to believe, that isn't....... @MatthewG
Now.......This verse below is written by PAUL.......after Jesus is back in Heaven., and Paul is talking about every single unbeliever, who was alive in Paul's day, and until this very day, and tomorrow also.
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SATAN, who is the god of this world, has BLINDED THE MIINDS of those who don’t believe. They are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News. They don’t understand this message about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God.
English Standard Version
In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.
King James Bible
In whom the god of this world hath BLINDED THE MINDS of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
Amplified Bible
among them the god of this world [SATAN] has blinded the minds of the unbelieving to prevent them from seeing the illuminating light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.
Behold
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Im not your 'bud".....
also, Heresies, like "Preterism", or "there is no Hell" or "The Devil is defeated, and has no power to harm anyone""" are not to be promoted, by Chrisitans, anywhere, including on a "Christian" forum.
So, Stop selling all this NT denying "teaching".... anytime you find you are able. @MatthewG
And thank you for not posting any more "Preterism" Videos on the Forum.
Is the problem that having faith in Jesus already have came, makes it to were he isn't coming back today anymore? @Behold.
He techinally shows up for people who comes to faith now today... in a second way. In their heart by the spirit of Christ.
Just curious, why you have such a fussy attitude with a view.
He techinally shows up for people who comes to faith now today... in a second way. In their heart by the spirit of Christ.
Just curious, why you have such a fussy attitude with a view.
Behold
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Should you be allowed to sell heresy on a Christian forum? @MatthewG ?
So, because i dont agree that this is what God wants as a "christian" forum..., i always resist it with an accurate reply, when i read yours.
If you dont find this comfortable, then stop trying to sell it to me, or anyone else here...
=Think.
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""""""Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don’t believe. They are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News. They don’t understand this message about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God.""""
Amplified Bible
among them the god of this world [Satan] has blinded the minds of the unbelieving to prevent them from seeing the illuminating light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.
It's a different opinion, should we just go ahead and hitler anyone that doesn't believe the way we do @Behold? Cause that is the road you are traveling down. Hitlering out people.
if people wanna beliefe jesus coming back today
if people wanna believe devil around
whatever believe whatver you gonna.
if people wanna beliefe jesus coming back today
if people wanna believe devil around
whatever believe whatver you gonna.
Behold
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Paul had a different tactic when dealing with people who were trying to deceive Christians in a Church.
He said....>>"get them out".
Titus 3:10
Now, @MatthewG ..... this is Christian Forum, and this particular one is extremely liberal regarding allowing people to preach, what Mainline Denominations, reject as False Theology.
So, in that case, its in the interest of the non-deceived Members here, that the deceived ones are spotlighted, as this hopefully will prevent any of them from being deceived by a Preterist who does not believe in a literal hell,............ and who openly and LOUDLY denies Paul's Teaching.....that a Literal Satan is still the "god of this world"......
"""""Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don’t believe. They are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News. They don’t understand this message about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God.""
English Standard Version
In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.
King James Bible
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
New King James Version
whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them.
Amplified Bible
among them the god of this world [Satan] has blinded the minds of the unbelieving to prevent them from seeing the illuminating light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.
Now, ..... this is Christian Forum, and this particular one is extremely liberal regarding allowing people to preach, what Mainline Denominations, reject as False Theology.
So, in that case, its in the interest of the non-deceived Members here, that the deceived ones are spotlighted, as this hopefully will prevent any of them from being deceived by a Preterist who does not believe in a literal hell, and who denies that a Literal Satan is still the "god of this world"........According to Paul The Apostle.
@Behold, the view of things happening in the past is a viable thing. You can try to get me banned from this website if you want, I really don't' care. You can tell me that I am going against the rules but Im afraid I am not.
I am not gonna stop just cause @Behold thinks Im out here deceiving people.
So, in that case, its in the interest of the non-deceived Members here, that the deceived ones are spotlighted, as this hopefully will prevent any of them from being deceived by a Preterist who does not believe in a literal hell, and who denies that a Literal Satan is still the "god of this world"........According to Paul The Apostle.
@Behold, the view of things happening in the past is a viable thing. You can try to get me banned from this website if you want, I really don't' care. You can tell me that I am going against the rules but Im afraid I am not.
I am not gonna stop just cause @Behold thinks Im out here deceiving people.
Behold
Well-Known Member
I accept that you want to be a Preterist, and deny Hell, and deny that the Devil exists.
However, when you want to try to deceive other members here, with this deception, then that is something that has to be revealed.
@MatthewG ........, dont let it keep you up at night..
Of course you can't stop.
That is the nature of Deception.......Its a compulsive situaiton.
This is why you feel so internally driven to shout it out loud on the Forum.
Behold
Well-Known Member
Im glad you wanted to confirm the heresy..........and you have now stated your theology.
This way, others can see that what i have been pointing out that you teach.......you have now confirmed, again.
And you'll confirm it again and again., as that is the compulsion i was describing that drives you.
And as i told you....thank you for not posting any more PRETERISM videos. @MatthewG
It's because I believe that Jesus had the total victory.
Hell is done away with in Revelation.
Satan is done away with in Revelation.
Therefore how is those things bad in believing them true because of Yeshua?
Oh because now you can not use Hell as a pressure point, or that Satan is right around the corner, either. That makes sense now @Behold, why you would have a problem with someone who believes in the Fulfilment view of Yeshua.
the lake of fire is still a point in view, it never went away.
Hell is done away with in Revelation.
Satan is done away with in Revelation.
Therefore how is those things bad in believing them true because of Yeshua?
Oh because now you can not use Hell as a pressure point, or that Satan is right around the corner, either. That makes sense now @Behold, why you would have a problem with someone who believes in the Fulfilment view of Yeshua.
the lake of fire is still a point in view, it never went away.
Behold
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Trying to justify teaching heresy, doesn't justify it.
Didnt you know?
The people who died never born again, in this last 10 mins while im posting to you.........now believe that Hell exists, because they are in it.
The all believe Hell exists now, and they all beleive in Jesus now....and it wont help them.
"god of this world..""
Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don’t believe. They are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News. They don’t understand this message about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God.
King James Bible
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
New King James Version
whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them.
Amplified Bible
among them the god of this world [Satan] has blinded the minds of the unbelieving to prevent them from seeing the illuminating light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.
See...........its Because when you believe a lie, you are deceived and when you teach them, you are a deceiver.
That's not a good situation.
JUDE teaches that some people are of a different mindset...... sin hardened, ... advanced case sinner.....and in their Case, if you try to reach them with The LOVE of God........they will not be interested. Whereas, if you meet them with their eternal damnation, then the Holy Spirit can proceed in drawing them to Jesus...
JUDE refers to this, and these types.....as literally plucking them out of Hell, while they are almost on fire.
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