Last day prophecies fulfilled

[Robert Gwin]

Our disagreement Robert comes because you want the verse to read Christ saying we should pray Thy Kingdom come to this earth. Christ does not say we should pray that His Kingdom come to this earth. He tells us to pray "Thy Kingdom come" then Christ tells us how our praying for "Thy Kingdom come" will come by praying God's will be done in earth, just as His will is done in heaven. Luke says this more clearly. Neither Matthew, nor Luke tell us to pray to God that His Kingdom come to this earth. That is reading your preconceived opinion into the text.

Thy will be done on earth, NOT Thy Kingdom come to this earth.

Matthew 6:10 (KJV) Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
Luke 11:2 (KJV) And he said unto them, When ye pray, say, Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth.

Both Matthew 5:5 and Rev 21:1-4 tell us believers shall inherit the new earth. Why would we want to inherit this sin cursed earth destined to by burned up? Believers will inherit the new earth after this first heaven and earth pass away. That's clear when we read Rev 21 in context.

Matthew 5:5 (KJV) Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.

Revelation 21:1-4 (KJV) And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

Our disagreement Robert comes because you want the verse to read Christ saying we should pray Thy Kingdom come to this earth. Christ does not say we should pray that His Kingdom come to this earth. He tells us to pray "Thy Kingdom come" then Christ tells us how our praying for "Thy Kingdom come" will come by praying God's will be done in earth, just as His will is done in heaven. Luke says this more clearly. Neither Matthew, nor Luke tell us to pray to God that His Kingdom come to this earth. That is reading your preconceived opinion into the text.

Thy will be done on earth, NOT Thy Kingdom come to this earth.

Matthew 6:10 (KJV) Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
Luke 11:2 (KJV) And he said unto them, When ye pray, say, Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth.

Both Matthew 5:5 and Rev 21:1-4 tell us believers shall inherit the new earth. Why would we want to inherit this sin cursed earth destined to by burned up? Believers will inherit the new earth after this first heaven and earth pass away. That's clear when we read Rev 21 in context.

Matthew 5:5 (KJV) Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.

Revelation 21:1-4 (KJV) And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

Our disagreement Robert comes because you want the verse to read Christ saying we should pray Thy Kingdom come to this earth. Christ does not say we should pray that His Kingdom come to this earth.

When you prayed for it to come, what die you understand you were asking God to do?

Both Matthew 5:5 and Rev 21:1-4 tell us believers shall inherit the new earth. Why would we want to inherit this sin cursed earth destined to by burned up? Believers will inherit the new earth after this first heaven and earth pass away. That's clear when we read Rev 21 in context.

The key to understanding is what is the new earth? God's earth He created is not defective RW. He tells us in His word that the earth abideth forever, it will never be destroyed. Ec 1:4: Ps 104:5. Remember God destroyed the earth in a flood before, and Jesus compares the next destruction to that flood. Mat 24:37-39, only the wicked will be removed from the earth Ps 37:9; 2 Thes 1:8,9 while the sheep will be preserved Ps 37:10; Rev 7:14

On a side note, although none of us seen it with our literal eyes, the heavens are new already, Jesus became King, satan and the demons were cast to the earth thus cleansing the heavens, hence the new heavens. Soon when the wicked is removed from the earth, we really have the new earth, however until satan and those who follow him are cast into the lake of fire, that is when all things are back to being the same when God took His rest.

 

[rwb]

PS
I also pray "thy kingdom come"even though I have received the holy spirit.I also understand the kingdom of this world becomes the kingdom of God.

Revelation 11
15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.


Alot of people want to believe This kingdom has come but they don't offer any dates to when they believe the seventh trump sounded.

Of course, we don't have to wait until the seventh trump begins to sound for the Kingdom of God to come. Because when the seventh angel begins to sound there will be no more time for this earth. When the seventh angel begins to sound, the Kingdom of God in heaven will be complete. When He ascended to heaven Christ was given a kingdom that shall never pass away nor be destroyed. We don't wait for His Kingdom to come to this sin-cursed earth, that is destined to be burned up. Because His Kingdom is NOW a spiritual Kingdom in heaven, and that is the Kingdom of God we know and enter when we are born again of His Spirit. Christ did not come to this earth, give His life, overcome Satan and the grave to have a physical Kingdom on this earth! That's why He says His Kingdom is not NOW of this earth, because it is within you.

Daniel 7:13-14 (KJV) I saw in the night visions, and, behold one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him. And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.

Revelation 10:5-7 (KJV) And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven, And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer: But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

Revelation 11:15 (KJV) And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

Matthew 13:37-43 (KJV) He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man; The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

The earth and all things were created by God to be His Kingdom. But when sin, and death through sin came into His glorious creation the whole world and everything living on it became destined to destruction and death. So, Christ came so that all things created in heaven and earth shall be made new again through His sacrificial blood, shed on the cross, and His victory over Satan and death. Christ is the propitiation (made atonement) for the sins of the whole world (all created). By His life, death, and resurrection Christ is the Savior not only for all who believe by grace through faith, but also the Savior of the world (Cosmos, orderly arrangement), because the world too, like all of humanity became cursed to die. That's why Paul writes that creation itself longs for the renewal that shall come when the seventh angel begins to sound.

1 John 2:2 (KJV) And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

Romans 3:25 (KJV) Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

Romans 8:18-22 (KJV) For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us. For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God. For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope, Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.

To pray the Kingdom of God will physically come to this earth destined to be burned up, is to pray for death. When we pray "thy Kingdom come" it does not mean come to this earth. Christ shows us that by obedience to His will on this earth, His Kingdom, that cannot be observed physically, because it is within you, comes as we obediently proclaim the Gospel unto all the earth. And whosoever hears and believes by grace through faith have entered into His spiritual Kingdom and shall never die.

So, when we pray "thy Kingdom come" we are praying for the Spiritual Kingdom of God that Christ has dominion and authority over will soon be complete by His Gospel being proclaimed in the power of His Spirit. We pray this in confidence and faith, knowing that when the last Gentile to be saved enters into the spiritual Kingdom of Christ that is within you, then His Kingdom in heaven will come down from heaven, not to this first earth that will be destroyed by fire, but to the new earth wherein dwells righteousness, no more curse, no more sin, Satan, or death.

Revelation 21:1-5 (KJV) And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

 

[rwb]

There's a whole... lot more Bible prophecy they'd have to prove than just that too.

Today is similar to the 1970's when few heard or understood the globalist terms "New World Order" and "one world government". Likewise, many Churches have been lied to about Christ's future Kingdom to come, told that it is already here, and that it's our job to create the physical reality of it, even WITHOUT JESUS HAVING RETURNED.

So the biggest prophecy that is required to make their theory true, is... where's Lord Jesus today on earth, because it is written that He will physically return to the Mount of Olives where He ascended to Heaven from?

No, they cannot produce him, but will believe on a fake that is coming to claim to be God. And that is what the New World Order hosts of Satan's servants are preparing them for.

Does the prophet say "He will physically return to the Mount of Olives where He ascended to heaven from" OR does the prophet say, "And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives"? (Zech 14:4)

And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

As you've rightly said Christ was physically seen ascending to heaven after His resurrection. This prophesy was fulfilled with the first advent of Christ, when His feet physically stood upon the Mount of Olives.

 

[shilohsfoal]

Of course, we don't have to wait until the seventh trump begins to sound for the Kingdom of God to come. Because when the seventh angel begins to sound there will be no more time for this earth. When the seventh angel begins to sound, the Kingdom of God in heaven will be complete. When He ascended to heaven Christ was given a kingdom that shall never pass away nor be destroyed. We don't wait for His Kingdom to come to this sin-cursed earth, that is destined to be burned up. Because His Kingdom is NOW a spiritual Kingdom in heaven, and that is the Kingdom of God we know and enter when we are born again of His Spirit. Christ did not come to this earth, give His life, overcome Satan and the grave to have a physical Kingdom on this earth! That's why He says His Kingdom is not NOW of this earth, because it is within you.

Daniel 7:13-14 (KJV) I saw in the night visions, and, behold one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him. And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.

Revelation 10:5-7 (KJV) And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven, And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer: But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

Revelation 11:15 (KJV) And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

Matthew 13:37-43 (KJV) He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man; The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

The earth and all things were created by God to be His Kingdom. But when sin, and death through sin came into His glorious creation the whole world and everything living on it became destined to destruction and death. So, Christ came so that all things created in heaven and earth shall be made new again through His sacrificial blood, shed on the cross, and His victory over Satan and death. Christ is the propitiation (made atonement) for the sins of the whole world (all created). By His life, death, and resurrection Christ is the Savior not only for all who believe by grace through faith, but also the Savior of the world (Cosmos, orderly arrangement), because the world too, like all of humanity became cursed to die. That's why Paul writes that creation itself longs for the renewal that shall come when the seventh angel begins to sound.

1 John 2:2 (KJV) And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

Romans 3:25 (KJV) Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

Romans 8:18-22 (KJV) For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us. For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God. For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope, Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.

To pray the Kingdom of God will physically come to this earth destined to be burned up, is to pray for death. When we pray "thy Kingdom come" it does not mean come to this earth. Christ shows us that by obedience to His will on this earth, His Kingdom, that cannot be observed physically, because it is within you, comes as we obediently proclaim the Gospel unto all the earth. And whosoever hears and believes by grace through faith have entered into His spiritual Kingdom and shall never die.

So, when we pray "thy Kingdom come" we are praying for the Spiritual Kingdom of God that Christ has dominion and authority over will soon be complete by His Gospel being proclaimed in the power of His Spirit. We pray this in confidence and faith, knowing that when the last Gentile to be saved enters into the spiritual Kingdom of Christ that is within you, then His Kingdom in heaven will come down from heaven, not to this first earth that will be destroyed by fire, but to the new earth wherein dwells righteousness, no more curse, no more sin, Satan, or death.

Revelation 21:1-5 (KJV) And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

Now keep in mind you quoted this.Now you've said Christs kingdom is up in the sky somewhere .So who are they that sin in the sky where you say his kingdom is?

The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.



According to your beliefs ,the sky is just full of iniquity.

 

[rwb]

If I'm not mistaken ,God promised a certain parcel of land to Abraham and his seed for an everlasting possession.
I know your not trying to say God will not keep his promise he made to Abraham and his seed are you?
Everlasting is a really long time and I'm sure Abraham and his seed are expecting the land that God showed Abraham.

Galatians 3:16
The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. Scripture does not say “and to seeds,” meaning many people, but “and to your seed,” meaning one person, who is Christ.

Genesis 17:8
And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.

I'm sure God will not break his word to Abraham and his seed.Everlasting is a long long time and Abraham hasn't even started to live everlasting yet.

Are you assuming that Abraham through his Seed (Christ) has not inherited the spiritual Kingdom of God that Christ came with? If Abraham is spiritually alive in heaven, a living soul, then he, with all the saints will inherit the whole earth which includes the promised land.

Speaking of the 'first resurrection' of the dead which is the resurrection of Christ, the Lord tells us that not only Abraham, but also Isaac and Jacob are spiritually alive in heaven after physical death because God is not the God of the dead, but of the living. To be spiritually alive in heaven is to be in the Kingdom of God in heaven that will come down from heaven after this first heaven and earth pass away.

Matthew 22:31-32 (KJV) But as touching the resurrection of the dead, have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying, I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.

As for Abrham's biological seeds (many) they too will inherit the whole earth IF they are of the faith of their father, Abraham. As for the land of Canaan, the promised physical land the seeds of Abraham inherited, all that God promised them of land on this earth, not one promise God made with Abraham's biological seeds has failed. All has been fulfilled. Had the biological seeds of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob remained faithful to the Covenant promise they would have continued to possess the promised land of Canaan forever. But, they broke the Covenant and were driven from the land.

Joshua 21:43-45 (KJV) And the LORD gave unto Israel all the land which he sware to give unto their fathers; and they possessed it, and dwelt therein. And the LORD gave them rest round about, according to all that he sware unto their fathers: and there stood not a man of all their enemies before them; the LORD delivered all their enemies into their hand. There failed not ought of any good thing which the LORD had spoken unto the house of Israel; all came to pass.

 

[shilohsfoal]

Are you assuming that Abraham through his Seed (Christ) has not inherited the spiritual Kingdom of God that Christ came with? If Abraham is spiritually alive in heaven, a living soul, then he, with all the saints will inherit the whole earth which includes the promised land.

Speaking of the 'first resurrection' of the dead which is the resurrection of Christ, the Lord tells us that not only Abraham, but also Isaac and Jacob are spiritually alive in heaven after physical death because God is not the God of the dead, but of the living. To be spiritually alive in heaven is to be in the Kingdom of God in heaven that will come down from heaven after this first heaven and earth pass away.

Matthew 22:31-32 (KJV) But as touching the resurrection of the dead, have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying, I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.

As for Abrham's biological seeds (many) they too will inherit the whole earth IF they are of the faith of their father, Abraham. As for the land of Canaan, the promised physical land the seeds of Abraham inherited, all that God promised them of land on this earth, not one promise God made with Abraham's biological seeds has failed. All has been fulfilled. Had the biological seeds of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob remained faithful to the Covenant promise they would have continued to possess the promised land of Canaan forever. But, they broke the Covenant and were driven from the land.

Joshua 21:43-45 (KJV) And the LORD gave unto Israel all the land which he sware to give unto their fathers; and they possessed it, and dwelt therein. And the LORD gave them rest round about, according to all that he sware unto their fathers: and there stood not a man of all their enemies before them; the LORD delivered all their enemies into their hand. There failed not ought of any good thing which the LORD had spoken unto the house of Israel; all came to pass.

I'm not assuming anything.God promised to give Abraham the land of canon for an everlasting possession.

Not a fairy tale land far away in the galaxy but the land that Abraham is now buried in .Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and Joseph all wanted to be buried in the land God promised them because they expected someday they would live again and inherit the land God promised them.

There is no assuming taking place on my part.This is all fact.

Luke 13:28
There will be weeping there, and gnashing of teeth, when you see Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets in the kingdom of God, but you yourselves thrown out.


Alot of Jews being thrown out of the kingdom of God on the day Abraham ,Issac and Jacob inherit the kingdom God promised him.

 

[rwb]

When you prayed for it to come, what die you understand you were asking God to do?

When praying "thy Kingdom come" is praying the Church (faithful saints) are obedient to the mandate Christ gave us before He left this earth.

Matthew 28:18-20 (KJV) And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

Mark 16:15-16 (KJV) And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Matthew 24:14 (KJV) And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

The key to understanding is what is the new earth? God's earth He created is not defective RW. He tells us in His word that the earth abideth forever, it will never be destroyed. Ec 1:4: Ps 104:5. Remember God destroyed the earth in a flood before, and Jesus compares the next destruction to that flood. Mat 24:37-39, only the wicked will be removed from the earth Ps 37:9; 2 Thes 1:8,9 while the sheep will be preserved Ps 37:10; Rev 7:14

On a side note, although none of us seen it with our literal eyes, the heavens are new already, Jesus became King, satan and the demons were cast to the earth thus cleansing the heavens, hence the new heavens. Soon when the wicked is removed from the earth, we really have the new earth, however until satan and those who follow him are cast into the lake of fire, that is when all things are back to being the same when God took His rest.

The problem for all of God's creation comes from sin, and death that is the consequence of sin Robert. This earth, and all God created is affected by sin, and all of creation is in decay and dying. Until the earth and all creation is made new again it will never be free of decay and death. The earth that shall remain forever will not be the same earth. By the flood that came in the days of Noah, God used water to destroy every living thing upon this earth, leaving this earth, but cleansed through water. When Christ comes the second time, this earth will be made new again through cleansing by fire.

The difference between the destruction of fire that shall come, and the flood waters in the days of Noah is that there will not be any faithful saints left upon this earth, as they were in the Ark of Noah's day. Every saint still alive upon this earth when Christ returns the second time will be caught up to meet the Lord in the air (raptured), and physically resurrected in immortal and incorruptible bodies of flesh. Then God will send down fire from heaven to utterly burn up everything still alive on this earth. Then a new heaven and new earth will come with the holy city, new Jerusalem, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. That is a picture of faithful living souls (spirit with physical bodies=complete living soul) inheriting the new heaven and new earth as we come with Christ from the air after all has been made new.

Revelation 21:1-4 (KJV) And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

Revelation 21:5 (KJV) And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

I agree! Satan was cast out of heaven with the birth of Christ. (Rev 12) Satan no longer has access to heaven as he had before the advent of Christ's birth. John writes of a battle he saw in heaven between Michael and his angels and the dragon and his angels, and "that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him".
Then John writes of hearing a great voice in heaven saying, "Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night."

Notice the highlighted part of the passage, "now is come salvation...and the kingdom of our God." Does this not prove to you that Christ came with the Kingdom of God with His first advent? The Kingdom of God came with the birth of Christ, but we can only know and enter into His Kingdom spiritually through faith.

Salvation, and the Kingdom of God came when Christ was born, but this is also when Satan was cast out of heaven to the earth where he began to persecute the woman (faithful Old Covenant Church). The woman (Old Covenant Church) fled into the wilderness (dispersed throughout the world) "where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent". The earth helped the woman, many of faith throughout the earth embrace Zionism, to prevent the utter destruction of the Jewish faithful Church of Old. So the dragon (Satan) "went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ". That is the Church (faithful saints) found throughout the world as the Gospel is preached unto all nations.

Through the birth of Christ Satan was cast out of heaven, then by His cross and resurrection Christ defeated Satan's power to hold people who would believe in bondage to fear of death. This is how Satan was bound, not with physical chains, that cannot hold a spiritual being, but by displaying Christ has all power over death and the Gospel sent in the power of the Spirit brings many to saving faith, and everlasting life. People knowing the life they have by grace through faith in Christ is forever have no more fear of bondage to death. Satan's power is broken, and this is how Christ binds him.

 

[rwb]

I'm not assuming anything.God promised to give Abraham the land of canon for an everlasting possession.

Who's denying the promise God gave to Abraham forever?

According to the author of Hebrews Abraham obtained the promise. By faith Abraham resided as a stranger in the land of promise with Isaac and Jacob, heirs of the same promise. Seeing himself as a stranger and pilgrim on the earth, Abraham looked for God's promise of a city whose builder and maker is God. Abraham died in faith without having received the promises of a country like that which he came out of, desiring instead a better country, a heavenly country where God has prepared for them a city. The heavenly city, new Jerusalem that shall come down from heaven with the new earth after the first heaven and earth have passed away.

Hebrews 6:13-15 (KJV) For when God made promise to Abraham, because he could swear by no greater, he sware by himself, Saying, Surely blessing I will bless thee, and multiplying I will multiply thee. And so, after he had patiently endured, he obtained the promise.

Hebrews 11:8-10 (KJV) By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went. By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise: For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God.

Hebrews 11:13-16 (KJV) These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth. For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country. And truly, if they had been mindful of that country from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned. But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.

You think Abraham desires the promised physical land of Canaan, but Hebrews shows us Abraham received the greater promise of heaven that he could not obtain until Christ first entered heaven to prepare a place for the faithful. Abraham, along with all the Old Covenant saints who died in faith, believing the Messiah would come to redeem them from death, ascended with Christ to heaven after His resurrection. Abraham has received the promises God gave through His Seed (Christ). And when Christ comes the second time Abraham with all the saints will inherit the new earth FOREVER.

Ephesians 4:8-10 (KJV) Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men. (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)

 

[Mantis]

but how does a person who is not a christian make them an antichrist??
I don't think that's always the case
what about them who literally do not know God and died
they die as an antichrist so they'll go straight to hell I don't think that's how righteousness works so it is up to God

Those who did not know God and died were not looking for God. Everyone who truly wants to find God, finds him. He is right there knocking on your door. Only God knows who is truly looking for him.

 

[shilohsfoal]

Who's denying the promise God gave to Abraham forever?

According to the author of Hebrews Abraham obtained the promise. By faith Abraham resided as a stranger in the land of promise with Isaac and Jacob, heirs of the same promise. Seeing himself as a stranger and pilgrim on the earth, Abraham looked for God's promise of a city whose builder and maker is God. Abraham died in faith without having received the promises of a country like that which he came out of, desiring instead a better country, a heavenly country where God has prepared for them a city. The heavenly city, new Jerusalem that shall come down from heaven with the new earth after the first heaven and earth have passed away.

Hebrews 6:13-15 (KJV) For when God made promise to Abraham, because he could swear by no greater, he sware by himself, Saying, Surely blessing I will bless thee, and multiplying I will multiply thee. And so, after he had patiently endured, he obtained the promise.

Hebrews 11:8-10 (KJV) By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went. By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise: For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God.

Hebrews 11:13-16 (KJV) These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth. For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country. And truly, if they had been mindful of that country from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned. But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.

You think Abraham desires the promised physical land of Canaan, but Hebrews shows us Abraham received the greater promise of heaven that he could not obtain until Christ first entered heaven to prepare a place for the faithful. Abraham, along with all the Old Covenant saints who died in faith, believing the Messiah would come to redeem them from death, ascended with Christ to heaven after His resurrection. Abraham has received the promises God gave through His Seed (Christ). And when Christ comes the second time Abraham with all the saints will inherit the new earth FOREVER.

Ephesians 4:8-10 (KJV) Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men. (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)

So your saying God broke his promise to Abraham to give him the land of Canaan for an everlasting possession?

Your trying to convince me that God lied and will not give Abraham the land he promised him.I don't believe you.I believe God will keep his word.


genesis 17:8
And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.

 

[rwb]

So your saying God broke his promise to Abraham to give him the land of Canaan for an everlasting possession?

Your trying to convince me that God lied and will not give Abraham the land he promised him.I don't believe you.I believe God will keep his word.


genesis 17:8
And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.

Where do you read me saying God will not keep His promises to Abraham? What part of my reply are you not understanding? Abraham, with all who are of the same SEED (Christ) as he, will inherit the whole new earth. God does not promise Abraham eternal possession of land on this earth that shall be utterly burned up. Abraham, along with all who are of like faith, shall inherit an eternal habitation on the new earth, not one that shall be desolate because of all of the abominations committed there.

Psalm 37:9-11 (KJV) For evildoers shall be cut off: but those that wait upon the LORD, they shall inherit the earth. For yet a little while, and the wicked shall not be: yea, thou shalt diligently consider his place, and it shall not be. But the meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace.

Matthew 5:5 (KJV) Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.

Ezekiel 33:24-29 (KJV) Son of man, they that inhabit those wastes of the land of Israel speak, saying, Abraham was one, and he inherited the land: but we are many; the land is given us for inheritance. Wherefore say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Ye eat with the blood, and lift up your eyes toward your idols, and shed blood: and shall ye possess the land? Ye stand upon your sword, ye work abomination, and ye defile every one his neighbour's wife: and shall ye possess the land? Say thou thus unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; As I live, surely they that are in the wastes shall fall by the sword, and him that is in the open field will I give to the beasts to be devoured, and they that be in the forts and in the caves shall die of the pestilence. For I will lay the land most desolate, and the pomp of her strength shall cease; and the mountains of Israel shall be desolate, that none shall pass through. Then shall they know that I am the LORD, when I have laid the land most desolate because of all their abominations which they have committed.

2 Peter 3:10-13 (KJV) But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

 

[shilohsfoal]

Where do you read me saying God will not keep His promises to Abraham? What part of my reply are you not understanding? Abraham, with all who are of the same SEED (Christ) as he, will inherit the whole new earth. God does not promise Abraham eternal possession of land on this earth that shall be utterly burned up. Abraham, along with all who are of like faith, shall inherit an eternal habitation on the new earth, not one that shall be desolate because of all of the abominations committed there.

Psalm 37:9-11 (KJV) For evildoers shall be cut off: but those that wait upon the LORD, they shall inherit the earth. For yet a little while, and the wicked shall not be: yea, thou shalt diligently consider his place, and it shall not be. But the meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace.

Matthew 5:5 (KJV) Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.

Ezekiel 33:24-29 (KJV) Son of man, they that inhabit those wastes of the land of Israel speak, saying, Abraham was one, and he inherited the land: but we are many; the land is given us for inheritance. Wherefore say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Ye eat with the blood, and lift up your eyes toward your idols, and shed blood: and shall ye possess the land? Ye stand upon your sword, ye work abomination, and ye defile every one his neighbour's wife: and shall ye possess the land? Say thou thus unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; As I live, surely they that are in the wastes shall fall by the sword, and him that is in the open field will I give to the beasts to be devoured, and they that be in the forts and in the caves shall die of the pestilence. For I will lay the land most desolate, and the pomp of her strength shall cease; and the mountains of Israel shall be desolate, that none shall pass through. Then shall they know that I am the LORD, when I have laid the land most desolate because of all their abominations which they have committed.

2 Peter 3:10-13 (KJV) But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

genesis 17:8
And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.

Then we agree,Abraham and his seed will be given the land of Canaan for an everlasting possession.

As I understand it.That land will be utterly cleaned before Abraham and his seed recieve it as an everlasting possession.Everyone who sins in it will be removed.Problem solved.

Mathew 13:41
The Son of Man will send out his angels, and they will weed out of his kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil.


The land of Canaan which is promised to Christ will not have sinners in it.It will be holy.

 

[rwb]

genesis 17:8
And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.

Then we agree,Abraham and his seed will be given the land of Canaan for an everlasting possession.

As I understand it.That land will be utterly cleaned before Abraham and his seed recieve it as an everlasting possession.Everyone who sins in it will be removed.Problem solved.

Mathew 13:41
The Son of Man will send out his angels, and they will weed out of his kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil.


The land of Canaan which is promised to Christ will not have sinners in it.It will be holy.

Yes, when the land of Canaan is part of the new earth that shall come it will be inhabited only by those redeemed by the blood of Christ. This is the eternal promise given to Abraham and all who are of his SEED (Christ). Not this physical earth destined to destruction, but the new earth where there will be no more sin, no more death. Because only the new heaven and new earth is ordained to last FOREVER. God would not promise to give Abraham and all who are of Christ, an EVERLASTING promise of land on this earth that will not last forever but will be utterly burned up.

 

[shilohsfoal]

Yes, when the land of Canaan is part of the new earth that shall come it will be inhabited only by those redeemed by the blood of Christ. This is the eternal promise given to Abraham and all who are of his SEED (Christ). Not this physical earth destined to destruction, but the new earth where there will be no more sin, no more death. Because only the new heaven and new earth is ordained to last FOREVER. God would not promise to give Abraham and all who are of Christ, an EVERLASTING promise of land on this earth that will not last forever but will be utterly burned up.

The land of Canaan is this physical earth.

It is given to Abraham's seed after the war of Armageddon in which the land is destroyed.Then land recovers.

Ezekiel 38:8
After many days you will be called to arms. In future years you will invade a land that has recovered from war, whose people were gathered from many nations to the mountains of Israel, which had long been desolate. They had been brought out from the nations, and now all of them live in safety.


1000 years after Abraham's seed has dwelt in the land promised to Abraham and his seed,Gog,Persia,Ethiopia and the bunch try to overthrow the kingdom and are all destroyed.

 

[rwb]

The land of Canaan is this physical earth.

It is given to Abraham's seed after the war of Armageddon in which the land is destroyed.Then land recovers.

Ezekiel 38:8
After many days you will be called to arms. In future years you will invade a land that has recovered from war, whose people were gathered from many nations to the mountains of Israel, which had long been desolate. They had been brought out from the nations, and now all of them live in safety.


1000 years after Abraham's seed has dwelt in the land promised to Abraham and his seed,Gog,Persia,Ethiopia and the bunch try to overthrow the kingdom and are all destroyed.

There is a physical land of Canaan, but if it is this physical earth, it cannot be inherited forever! For all this earth will be utterly destroyed. I agree Abraham, along with all who are of his SEED (Christ) shall physically inherit the whole new earth after this first earth has been utterly destroyed by fire. It will be after this final conflict, which will be during Satan's "little season" after the seventh angel begins to sound that time shall be no longer.

Revelation 10:5-7 (KJV) And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven, And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer: But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

Revelation 16:15-16 (KJV) Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame. And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

Revelation 17:14 (KJV) These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

We read of Satan's last attempt to keep the Kingdom of God in heaven from being complete in Rev 20. Satan gathers together all his deceived throughout the nations, called Gog (antichrist) and Magog (antichristian), and surrounds the saints who spiritually belong to the beloved city, heavenly new Jerusalem. But there is no battle, because fire shall come down from God and devour them all. Then the devil will be cast into the lake of fire with the beast and false prophet and whosoever is not written in the Book of life.

Revelation 20:7-10 (KJV) And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

Revelation 20:11-15 (KJV) And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

There won't be another one thousand years given this earth after the seventh angel begins to sound that time shall be no longer. There is only Satan's "little season" which means a special occasion, and smallest amount of time. Since the Kingdom of God in heaven will be complete after Satan's little season, there will be no purpose for more time on this earth because the mystery of God should be finished. That mystery is that Gentiles of faith with Jews of faith will complete the Kingdom of God in heaven as the last Gentile to come into the Kingdom as the Gospel is preached and believed on in all the world.

 

[shilohsfoal]

There is a physical land of Canaan, but if it is this physical earth, it cannot be inherited forever! For all this earth will be utterly destroyed. I agree Abraham, along with all who are of his SEED (Christ) shall physically inherit the whole new earth after this first earth has been utterly destroyed by fire. It will be after this final conflict, which will be during Satan's "little season" after the seventh angel begins to sound that time shall be no longer.

Revelation 10:5-7 (KJV) And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven, And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer: But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

Revelation 16:15-16 (KJV) Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame. And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

Revelation 17:14 (KJV) These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

We read of Satan's last attempt to keep the Kingdom of God in heaven from being complete in Rev 20. Satan gathers together all his deceived throughout the nations, called Gog (antichrist) and Magog (antichristian), and surrounds the saints who spiritually belong to the beloved city, heavenly new Jerusalem. But there is no battle, because fire shall come down from God and devour them all. Then the devil will be cast into the lake of fire with the beast and false prophet and whosoever is not written in the Book of life.

Revelation 20:7-10 (KJV) And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

Revelation 20:11-15 (KJV) And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

There won't be another one thousand years given this earth after the seventh angel begins to sound that time shall be no longer. There is only Satan's "little season" which means a special occasion, and smallest amount of time. Since the Kingdom of God in heaven will be complete after Satan's little season, there will be no purpose for more time on this earth because the mystery of God should be finished. That mystery is that Gentiles of faith with Jews of faith will complete the Kingdom of God in heaven as the last Gentile to come into the Kingdom as the Gospel is preached and believed on in all the world.

You don't get it.

genesis 17:8
And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.


God did not promise to give Abraham another earth.He promised to give him the land of Canaan where Abraham was dwelling at the time.
You keep saying God will not give Abraham the land of Canaan which Abraham was living in at the time God promised it.You say it will be on some other world called new earth.

God will keep his promise and give Abraham the exact same land Abraham was standing on when God promised that land to Abraham.

And as scripture shows,that kingdom will not be destroyed,even when Gog ,Ethiopia and Persia come calling.

Gog ,Ethiopia and Persia will be destroyed,But not the everlasting kingdom.They will have a lot of bones to bury though,as scripture shows.

 

[rwb]

You don't get it.

genesis 17:8
And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.


God did not promise to give Abraham another earth.He promised to give him the land of Canaan where Abraham was dwelling at the time.
You keep saying God will not give Abraham the land of Canaan which Abraham was living in at the time God promised it.You say it will be on some other world called new earth.

God will keep his promise and give Abraham the exact same land Abraham was standing on when God promised that land to Abraham.

And as scripture shows,that kingdom will not be destroyed,even when Gog ,Ethiopia and Persia come calling.

Gog ,Ethiopia and Persia will be destroyed,But not the everlasting kingdom.They will have a lot of bones to bury though,as scripture shows.

No, you don't get it! As I've shown you, a few times now, all the promises God made for eternal land can only be fulfilled on the new earth. Because it is the only earth that shall be FOREVER. Any promise for land on this earth can never be an eternal promise because this earth is destined for destruction by fire that shall come down from God out of heaven. God does not promise to give anyone land forever that is destined for fiery destruction when Christ returns the second time.

2 Peter 3:10-13 (KJV) But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

 

[shilohsfoal]

No, you don't get it! As I've shown you, a few times now, all the promises God made for eternal land can only be fulfilled on the new earth. Because it is the only earth that shall be FOREVER. Any promise for land on this earth can never be an eternal promise because this earth is destined for destruction by fire that shall come down from God out of heaven. God does not promise to give anyone land forever that is destined for fiery destruction when Christ returns the second time.

2 Peter 3:10-13 (KJV) But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

There is only one earth.
The earth has been destroyed more times than we will ever know.

Genesis 9:11
And I will establish my covenant with you; neither shall all flesh be cut off any more by the waters of a flood; neither shall there any more be a flood to destroy the earth.

Here God speaks of how he destroyed the earth with the flood.
After the flood ,everything was new again.Same way with fire.Aftervthe earth is destroyed with fire,it will be made new again.
Still the same earth.Still the same Canaan which God promised to give to Abraham forever.

Not a different earth,not a different Canaan.Its just made new.Like being born again.Its a new earth.

 

[rwb]

There is only one earth.
The earth has been destroyed more times than we will ever know.

Genesis 9:11
And I will establish my covenant with you; neither shall all flesh be cut off any more by the waters of a flood; neither shall there any more be a flood to destroy the earth.

Here God speaks of how he destroyed the earth with the flood.
After the flood ,everything was new again.Same way with fire.Aftervthe earth is destroyed with fire,it will be made new again.
Still the same earth.Still the same Canaan which God promised to give to Abraham forever.

Not a different earth,not a different Canaan.Its just made new.Like being born again.Its a new earth.

However God determines to bring about a new earth, the fact remains this heavens and earth will pass away. It will not be for THIS first earth that eternal promises are made by God to any man.

2 Peter 3:6-7 (KJV) Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

Revelation 20:11 (KJV) And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.

Revelation 21:1 (KJV) And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

Isaiah 65:17 (KJV) For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.

Isaiah 66:22 (KJV) For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.

The flood God sent to this earth during the days of Noah was to destroy every living creature upon the earth. Because wickedness had multiplied upon the earth, and man's heart was desperately wicked, so God determined to begin filling the earth again through Noah and his biological seed with him on the ark. The earth itself in Noah's day was not destined to perish as the heavens and earth now are.

 

[shilohsfoal]

However God determines to bring about a new earth, the fact remains this heavens and earth will pass away. It will not be for THIS first earth that eternal promises are made by God to any man.

2 Peter 3:6-7 (KJV) Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

Revelation 20:11 (KJV) And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.

Revelation 21:1 (KJV) And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

Isaiah 65:17 (KJV) For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.

Isaiah 66:22 (KJV) For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.

The flood God sent to this earth during the days of Noah was to destroy every living creature upon the earth. Because wickedness had multiplied upon the earth, and man's heart was desperately wicked, so God determined to begin filling the earth again through Noah and his biological seed with him on the ark. The earth itself in Noah's day was not destined to perish as the heavens and earth now are.

No,the earth will continue.
It's a shame you dont believe God will keep his promise and give Abraham the land he promised him.Scripture shows that land quite beautiful in the future.So much life in it that even the dead sea itself is full of fish of different kinds.But you don't believe God can do that to the earth.

Ezekiel 47
Then he led me back to the bank of the river. 7 When I arrived there, I saw a great number of trees on each side of the river. 8 He said to me, “This water flows toward the eastern region and goes down into the Arabah,[b] where it enters the Dead Sea. When it empties into the sea, the salty water there becomes fresh. 9 Swarms of living creatures will live wherever the river flows. There will be large numbers of fish, because this water flows there and makes the salt water fresh; so where the river flows everything will live. 10 Fishermen will stand along the shore; from En Gedi to En Eglaim there will be places for spreading nets. The fish will be of many kinds—like the fish of the Mediterranean Sea. 11 But the swamps and marshes will not become fresh; they will be left for salt. 12 Fruit trees of all kinds will grow on both banks of the river. Their leaves will not wither, nor will their fruit fail. Every month they will bear fruit, because the water from the sanctuary flows to them. Their fruit will serve for food and their leaves for healing.”


Would you like to read more about the land promised to abraham as an everlasting possession?There is much you can read about it.There is much you can learn about the land of Canaan.
The land you say will no longer exist.