"Let The Woman Learn in Silence With All Subjugation."

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1 Tim. 2:11.

Paul obviously knew what he was talking about, because he did not mince words.

He did not tell the church to have idea sharing sessions with the women, he did not say to check with them first before picking colors, he did not say to recognize their emotional concerns. He specified they be silent in order to learn.

This directive was gender specific, and left no room for options. A woman was expected and told to learn from her husband, regardless of her personal opinion about her husband and whether or not she felt "loved." In doing so, she cooperated with God's specification that her husband is the head of her, and that he is accountable to God for his performance as such.

This procedure of wemen learning in silence before the authority of a man who is in charge of her is consistently shown in how women were silent upon hearing the instructions and teachings of Jesus. No woman ever argued or debated with Jesus, because He did not allow it. He answered all their questions and comments using responses which negated their need for further inquiry or pursuit of a matter. Jesus always got the final word with women.

The best example of this is The Woman at the Well, when she said to the town people Jesus "told me all things that I ever did." Husbands who serve Christ become gifted to easily understand all the different stuff their wives think and try to do, and to understand what they need to learn. That is why Paul directs women to be silent and to learn from their husbands.

The reason wives have difficulty submitting to this is because they are seldom satisfied with their Husband's logical explanations. They also like to complain with "how he seems to be." That is from their compulsion to read in between the lines of everything said.

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Ya, well when thousands of men, man up in the husband role .... put Christ first, and they lead the household IN Christ....that teaching would hold true....

However society has X-ed Christ out of the equasion and perpetuates, glamorizes and encourages, division between husbands and wives.
 
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Ya, well when thousands of men, man up in the husband role .... put Christ first, and they lead the household IN Christ....that teaching would hold true....

However society has X-ed Christ out of the equasion and perpetuates, glamorizes and encourages, division between husbands and wives.
Yes. Your answer typifies the mindset of women who demand their preconceived notions be satisfied before they cooperate.

Apparently, Scripture is not being used as an authority when that response occurs, and God sees it when it does. His solution is the unconditional love and submission which comes from true spiritual rebirth, not from the self centered agreement upon what "seems like a fair deal for me."
 

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Yes. Your answer typifies the mindset of women who demand their preconceived notions be satisfied before they cooperate.

Apparently, Scripture is not being used as an authority when that response occurs, and God sees it when it does. His solution is the unconditional love and submission which comes from true spiritual rebirth, not from the self centered agreement upon what "seems like a fair deal for me."

So? you have a different opinion.
No one was talking fair deal.
Reality...when the husband is absent in his role...
Gods blessing and authority are not withheld from the wife/woman.

Scripture reveals women executing authority, when a man is not in the picture.
 

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Not true. Prophetess Deborah still could do only what she was told to do. She made no decisions.

Mother Mary was never cited for doctrine or leadership. Esther got what she manipulated from people with her feelings, and needed Mordecai to do the work for her. Ruth was self centered for her well being, and appealed to Boaz's base romantic desires. David's Abigaile pretended to be submissive, and begged for mercy. Eve sinned even when she was still a completely perfected and cared for woman, who had no real complaints or problems in life, and now all women imitate her sin. Sarah jumped ahead of God by giving her handmaiden to Abraham, and now the descendants of Ishmael are an endless plague upon the World. The women at Jesus' tomb had no clue what what He was all about, and we're trying to put odor controlling spices on Him, never thinking to go to to the Temple to share the good news. Even after the incredible story of Jacob finding and marrying her according to God's will, Rachael stole the pagan idols from her father Laban, and then lied to everybody using her period as an excuse for not getting off of the camel.

There is no example of women in the Bible showing obedience to God without the participation of a man to get the job done.