...I don't know where you learned this heresy - but man ALWAYS had a free will and STILL does.
Romans 6:20
2 Peter 2:19
... From the Scriptures. I got this idea from the Scriptures
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...I don't know where you learned this heresy - but man ALWAYS had a free will and STILL does.
Yes we are,
Rom 8:35, 38-39 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall trouble or hardship or persecution or famine or nakedness or danger or sword? 38For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
NEITHER of those verses makes your bogus claim that we are robots and do NOT have free will....
Romans 6:20
2 Peter 2:19
... From the Scriptures. I got this idea from the Scriptures
That’s NOT the “LIST”.
The
list are the things that Paul says cannot separate us from God (in RED, Einstein).
And YOU are now inventing a new Protestant doctrine.We are forever covered under His blood BOL, now we grow.
But the list doesn't INCLUDE us, Einstein . . .Right, and the list is for us.
And YOU are now inventing a new Protestant doctrine.
Congratulations . . .
But the list doesn't INCLUDE us, Einstein . . .
Sooooooo, you're saying the water is amniotic fluid??Jhn 3:5 water is in reference to being born from mothers womb, and spirit is Holy Spirit baptism. Disobedience in a believer is a result of chastisement ,not loss of salvation
Sooooooo, you're saying the water is amniotic fluid??
Sooooooo, you're saying the water is amniotic fluid??
And YOU are now inventing a new Protestant doctrine.
Congratulations . . .
Aknowledging that Jesus is the Son of God DOESN'T save you.
THANK YOU for allowing me to expose this idiotic notion that John 3:5 is about amniotic fluid and NOT Baptism.Yes!!!!!!!!!!! Why do you think Christ died for the whole world, but the religious don't believe
Sounds pretty dern CATHOLIC to me . . .Nope, actually it has been around for years!
Uh huh – that’s the FIRST step.Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God abideth in him, and he in God. 1 John 4:15.
THANK YOU for allowing me to expose this idiotic notion that John 3:5 is about amniotic fluid and NOT Baptism.
You must read the entire context of the conversation to understand what is being spoken of.
John 3:3-5
Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are BORN AGAIN.”
“How can someone be born when they are old?” Nicodemus asked. “Surely they cannot enter a second time into their mother’s womb to be born!”
Jesus answered, “Very truly I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of WATER and the Spirit.
First of all - Jesus and Nicodemus aren’t discussing natural childbirth here. They are discussing REBIRTH (born again”).
Secondly – if Jesus meant “natural” childbirth – then EVERYBODY is going to enter the Kingdom of God because we were ALL born in amniotic fluid, Einstein.
Finally – ALL you have to do is to go 2 chapters earlier in John’s Gospel to see what Jesus was talking about.
In Chapter 1, we see HIS Baptism taking place. What ELEMENTS are present??
WATER and SPIRIT.
There ends the lesson.
Secondly – if Jesus meant “natural” childbirth – then EVERYBODY is going to enter the Kingdom of God because we were ALL born in amniotic fluid, Einstein.
Uh huh – that’s the FIRST step.
And NOWHERE it eh text does He mention “Spiritual” Water.Nowhere in the text does Jhn 3 give any hint of H2O. It's referring to either of the two,
1. mothers womb or
2. spiritual water in Jhn 7
- Heb
It has ZERO validity, given the context of the conversation.Not that I agree with his interpretation...but according to it wouldn't he be saying that a person can't be born again of the Holy Spirit as a fetus? (John the Baptist would be an exception to this rule).
That a person must be born both naturally and physically...this appears to be a valid interpretation; though I would not stake my eternal life on its validity.
“Already” saved.If I confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God already abides in me and I in God...and therefore such a confession would be the evidence of having been born again. iow, when I make such a confession it means that I am already saved.
Now of course you have the Jehovah's Witnesses, who believe that they are saved because they will tell you that Jesus is the Son of God....however they do not define this properly according to all of scripture (specifically Isaiah 9:6). And therefore they have provided for themselves a false assurance based on a misinterpretation of scripture (1 John 4:15).
“Already” saved.
Interesting – because the Bible ALSO says that Christians in the process of BEING saved (1 Cor. 1:8, 2 Cor. 2:15, 2 Cor. 7:1, Phil. 2:12, Heb. 12:14).
The Bible ALSO says that they WILL BE saved (Matt. 24:13, Rom. 5:9–10, 1 Cor. 3:12–15).
These are verses that you need to harmonize with the ones you cherry-picked.
It has ZERO validity, given the context of the conversation.
Only through some pretty impressive Scriptural acrobatics can one come to the "amniotic fluid" conclusion.