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North ... like Harvard, Yale and Princeton ... the Temples of Secular Humanism.
And, just as i suspected, repentance and apology still stuck hard huh? You are right about one thing, the scripture wasn’t up my sleeve, it was in the post for all to see your disingenuous responseI applaud your clever rhetoric, but clever rhetoric is not a valid support for eisegesis. You still changed action by God upon people in a certain state of being, into an action by fallen men to control God's actions (as a prerequisite).
... And you managed that clever magic trick with "no scriptures up your sleeves".
That's a good name for them.
I'm trying to be a good example. (hint, hint)Finally a Christian who is asking questions.
What I think . . . those who have real humility don't go around talking about it.
This is an interesting display of humility . . .I don't even need Strongs to beat you. Just read the ENGLISH.
1PE 5:5 Likewise you that are younger be subject to the elders. Clothe yourselves, all of you, with humility toward one another, for "God opposes the proud, but gives grace to the humble."
Then you might REPENT of your "proud"-ness and HUMBLE YOURSELF....and apologize to me. Bet that sticks in your craw doesn't it. I won't hold my breath.
And here are 2 that say plainly that those who are born again will be with Jesus at the end.
Yes very interesting indeed!
I think we sometimes just become so full of ourselves that we stop seeing what everyone around us can see. So we have to guard against that. Like getting a head of steam that just has us barreling down the track, not stopping to think it through, just slap someone down, or whatever it is.
I disagree, I believe I've nailed your motives and the spirit behind them.
As a 5 pointer, with point 2 and 3, IMO, you serve a GOD worse than Hitler with an eternal Auschwitz. You believe in the doctrine of PREDESTINATION, as do I. But then your God POV takes those who He never "predestined, chose, foreordained or called" and sends them to eternal hell. Lucky you though, you get IN with your UNCONDITIONAL ELECTION and LIMITED ATONEMENT 'get out of Hell' pass. Sorry, my GOD POV wins because He was and is omniscient from the beginning. And He didn't have a plan where Satan, whom He created, come up with a better plan than God TO WIN most.
Then your God is a "PRIME MOVER" of nothing if men are "ENTITLED" to 'their move' against the PRIME MOVER. Inconsistency is a jewel your theology needs a bit more 'shining' in.
As was I, and that's why I was compelled to, and did, beat YOU.
Of course it matters, that's why you're here with your "eisigesis"/exegesis vocabulary and cemetery (sic) degree. And your conciliation above still FEELS like the little boy who said; "I may be sitting down on the outside, but I'm still standing up on the inside."
I can't either. But when I was wrong and convicted by the holy spirit of Christ within me or the The Holy Spirit of God upon me I have done it on the forum. Have you EVER?
When you come to respect your opponent, I hope that "perfect peace" truly happens for us. Because, as one who spent 2 years on a kill floor I learned that "IRON SHARPENS IRON", but only if the angle (attitude) of the 2 irons are correct. If they aren't then there is no sharpening. There are only sparks flying between 'the steel rod' and the 'knife blade'.
I was only given a 'humble badge' at one church I went to. But then they took it away when I wore it to church that next Sunday.
Do you know who wrote IN THE BIBLE that Moses was the most humble man on earth?
I wasn't trying to be humble I was giving a hard exhortation which was deserved and ignored IMHO. Yes I know I know...just how much that IMHO grated on me when I saw so many use it AGAINST me and anyone who agreed with me, on just about anything.
Did he? Or did the same writer who added the part about Moses' death and burial? Perhaps?
I'm more than happy to major on your "PERHAPS", which is a good answer... and your "MUCH LOVE" which looks much better than it FEELS, right now. But hey, with time things could change a bunch....PERHAPS.
Let me guess … all means all without exception … So you are a HUMBLE, BIBLE SCHOLAR and a UNIVERSALIST.
And now it is you who judges me wrongly. Universalism is as big a ocean as being a BAPTIST. But you are a special Baptist who is right. Well i am an ultimate reconciliationist, and that fish does swim in the same waters as some other fish in the ocean of universalism. Actually I think like you, a PARTICULAR who swims in the Baptist ocean.
Very much actually. 10 years studying that heresy just hoping it was true. And sold out for it, for the last 40 years.
The JW’s, and the Mormons which I recently dealt with, just might question the intelligence of that statement from one who just might fain thinking more highly than he ought.
I agree, but I'm not sure if that argument holds water.
He has been stealing and killing and destroying the souls and bodies of "Christians" for 2,000 years. If you sin, you die and go to HADES where your corruptible/perishable body is destroyed by decay. That's what Paul said....to Christians.
Yes, but did he do that without permission?
