Mary had more children than Jesus

[tzcho2]

@ ByGrace - Your post seems pretty angry and judgmental & interestingly accusing another of judging and being unChrist-like , well, it strikes me as very ironic.

 

[CoreIssue]

Of late you have started quite a lot of new threads, many of them are actually on interesting topics, however is there some purpose in not merely stating all that was said in one post rather than one post for each thought or question?

It makes it appear as though your only intention is to run-up your messages so that you can appear to be one of the long standing and popular members on this forum. This is not a contest you know.

Remember the quality in ones posts (i.e. how much it aids and enlightens the understanding of others) is of much greater importance than the quantity of ones posts.

Your method of posting only makes you look desperate for approval as though you were seeking your own following.

Better to have the approval of God, rather than that of men.

It is easier to address individual points if not all packed together. I have seen so many threads with posts that were so big so much information it was impossible to respond.

As for why I'm starting threads, I am retired and enjoy being involved with biblical issues.

As well, with some physical problems I'm not out there doing a bunch of yard work.

I see this is the most productive I can be.

Local my website and you will see very involved polls I have created on very important subjects.

I am not going to stop doing what I do because you do not approve.

 

[amadeus]

Agree. He is obviously going for the title of "The Most Posts On The Site."
I came to that conclusion weeks ago when he started doing it.
It is plain to see.

I think it is called dominance. ;)

If true, this is certainly unfortunate. He is apparently upset if not angry because I and others have failed to agree initially or subsequently with many of his beliefs. Even if he were correct and all the rest of us were wrong, would his response be what we should expect from Jesus?

 

[Harvest 1874]

It is easier to address individual points if not all packed together. I have seen so many threads with posts that were so big so much information it was impossible to respond.

As for why I'm starting threads, I am retired and enjoy being involved with biblical issues.

As well, with some physical problems I'm not out there doing a bunch of yard work.

I see this is the most productive I can be.

Local my website and you will see very involved polls I have created on very important subjects.

I am not going to stop doing what I do because you do not approve.

I did not say that I necessarily disapproved, I merely asked why you posted the way you did, but to each his own, if this method suits you then have at it.

I did however find it amusing when you you said you're not out there doing a bunch of yard work, because that is exactly what I do all day. I have my own Lawn business and as boss and chief labor (the only laborer) I'm quite busy here in Florida pretty much all the time even in the winter that is if we don't get to much frost.

Carry on my friend, howbeit a bit of advice, try to treat people with the same respect you would have them treat you.
If you want more people to consider what you have to say try not to insult them by insinuating that they're all in a cult, as I said before Babylon itself (both Mother and daughters) is consider the biggest cult of all and has deceive and misled far more of the Lord's professed people than any other so-called cult. And whether or not you are an active member of any of the various branches makes no difference (even if you claim to be non-denominational). If you are still promoting and teaching their doctrines you are still consider as joined to her.

 

[CoreIssue]

I did not say that I necessarily disapproved, I merely asked why you posted the way you did, but to each his own, if this method suits you then have at it.

I did however find it amusing when you you said you're not out there doing a bunch of yard work, because that is exactly what I do all day. I have my own Lawn business and as boss and chief labor (the only laborer) I'm quite busy here in Florida pretty much all the time even in the winter that is if we don't get to much frost.

Carry on my friend, howbeit a bit of advice, try to treat people with the same respect you would have them treat you.
If you want more people to consider what you have to say try not to insult them by insinuating that they're all in a cult, as I said before Babylon itself (both Mother and daughters) is consider the biggest cult of all and has deceive and misled far more of the Lord's professed people than any other so-called cult. And whether or not you are an active member of any of the various branches makes no difference (even if you claim to be non-denominational). If you are still promoting and teaching their doctrines you are still consider as joined to her.

Landscaping is a hard job. But if you have my back would not be doing it.

I understand where you're coming from as a Bible Student/Russell follower.

 

[SkyWriting]

It is easier to address individual points if not all packed together. I have seen so many threads with posts that were so big so much information it was impossible to respond.

As for why I'm starting threads, I am retired and enjoy being involved with biblical issues.

As well, with some physical problems I'm not out there doing a bunch of yard work.

I see this is the most productive I can be.

Local my website and you will see very involved polls I have created on very important subjects.

I am not going to stop doing what I do because you do not approve.

Clearly all people should be gainfully employed if they are to eat.

 

[SkyWriting]

There is no biblical record of Christ elevating Mary to a higher status.

This is off the threads topic.

 

[Wafer]

So Mary was not a virgin at the birth of Jesus?

The bible was not written in English, nor in the USA. We English speakers, especially Americans, think virgin means "never had sex", but in eastern cultures 2000 years ago, the word meant "never had a baby". There were several words translated virgin and some of them only meant "young woman".

Matthew 1:20 King James Version (KJV)
20 But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.

So Mary was deflowered at that time. Either that or Joseph disobeyed the command.

 

[Helen]

She is a Mormon. Mormons are not Christian.

I presume you are speaking of Jane Doe?
To be honest God alone knows her heart. You have no right to say if she is or is not born again Christian.

If you go back and re read the Forum rules , you will find it is against the rules to personally attack other members as “not Christians “ ( twice we have seen you attacking Amadeus...1) for being Oneness ...which he has made clear MORE THAN once that he “used to be”...but even if he still was, he is a legitimate member of this Site , 2) you attack him for not believing in the trinity ‘as you do’.

You are not the judge of the members here Core.

If you want a site free of any thing that you don’t personally agree with .....you have a Site of your own.
You are not the owner here, and amazingly , we are all allowed to post here!!

 

[brakelite]

Ever consider the possibility that Joseph had children prior to his marriage to Mary? That those brethren were half brothers and sisters? Is there anything in scripture to preclude that idea?

 

[CoreIssue]

The bible was not written in English, nor in the USA. We English speakers, especially Americans, think virgin means "never had sex", but in eastern cultures 2000 years ago, the word meant "never had a baby". There were several words translated virgin and some of them only meant "young woman".

Matthew 1:20 King James Version (KJV)
20 But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.

So Mary was deflowered at that time. Either that or Joseph disobeyed the command.

It meant no sex.

 

[CoreIssue]

I presume you are speaking of Jane Doe?
To be honest God alone knows her heart. You have no right to say if she is or is not born again Christian.

If you go back and re read the Forum rules , you will find it is against the rules to personally attack other members as “not Christians “ ( twice we have seen you attacking Amadeus...1) for being Oneness ...which he has made clear MORE THAN once that he “used to be”...but even if he still was, he is a legitimate member of this Site , 2) you attack him for not believing in the trinity ‘as you do’.

You are not the judge of the members here Core.

If you want a site free of any thing that you don’t personally agree with .....you have a Site of your own.
You are not the owner here, and amazingly , we are all allowed to post here!!

I identified her as Mormon and Mormonism as cult.

I identifed Amadeus as non Trinitarian while the Bible teaches Trinity.

You need to read the rules more closely.

Per your demands a lot of members would have to leave.

No mention by you of those calling me non christian.

 

[marks]

Of late you have started quite a lot of new threads, many of them are actually on interesting topics, however is there some purpose in not merely stating all that was said in one post rather than one post for each thought or question?

It makes it appear as though your only intention is to run-up your messages so that you can appear to be one of the long standing and popular members on this forum. This is not a contest you know.

Remember the quality in ones posts (i.e. how much it aids and enlightens the understanding of others) is of much greater importance than the quantity of ones posts.

Your method of posting only makes you look desperate for approval as though you were seeking your own following.

Better to have the approval of God, rather than that of men.

I like breaking things down in shorter posts addressing a single item especially how active this forum is. It can be easier for me to keep track.

Much love!

 

[marks]

Then again we might say that because our Lord Jesus is to become the "Everlasting Father" of all mankind, by default his children will number in the billions so then we would say that Jesus has more children then Mary.

Jesus is our Brother.

Much love!

 

[marks]

you will find it is against the rules to personally attack other members as “not Christians “

I had forgotten that. Not a rule followed by all, that's for sure!

Much love!

 

[Harvest 1874]

Jesus is our Brother.

Much love!

This is true with respects to the Church, those joined to him, but we were referring to the world of mankind who will receive their new life from the second Adam, to these he is the everlasting father.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Her other sons and daughters never referred to her as anything but mom.

Can you show me where the BIBLE says this??
Chapter and Verse, please . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

Her other sons and daughters never referred to her as anything but mom.

Can you show me where the BIBLE says this??
Chapter and Verse, please . . .

STILL waiting for an answer . . .

 

[CoreIssue]

STILL waiting for an answer . . .

Really?

You have been given more than enough force stating she is their mother.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Really?

You have been given more than enough force stating she is their mother.

First of all - NO, I haven't. NOBODY has given ONE SHRED of evidence that Mary had other children.
Only that Jesus had "Adelphoi".

Secondly - YOU specifically made the following claim:
"Her other sons and daughters never referred to her as anything but mom."

I asked YOU to show me that Chapter and Verse to substantiate this nonsense.
If you can't do that - then simply admit that you lied and move one . . .