Mary the Queen of Heaven?

[BreadOfLife]

JESUS Commandment = "No one comes to the FATHER but thru ME"
Praying to anyone other then CHRIST, to come to the FATHER, is in fact, another gospel.

What utterly ignorant nonsense . . .

Sooo, YOU never ask people to pray for you or a worthy cause??
- When someone asks YOU to pray for them – do you condemn them or do you PRAY for them??
- Was Paul sinning when HE asked for prayers in his Letters (2 Thess. 3:1-3 Eph. 6:19)?
You’re a hypocrite – not a Scripturally-knowledgeable person . . .

To "Pray" does NOT mean to "Worship - as I have repeatedly shown you people on this thread. ONE more time . . .
Full Definition of Pray:
transitive verb
1: ENTREAT, IMPLORE —often used as a function word in introducing a question, REQUEST, or PLEA<pray be careful>
2: to get or bring by praying

intransitive verb
1: to make a REQUEST in a humble manner
2: to address God or a god with adoration, confession, supplication, or thanksgiving

Acts 27:34
"Wherefore I PRAY you to take some meat: for this is for your health: for there shall not an hair fall from the head of any of you".

As you can plainly see above – prayer as WORSHIP is NOT one of the primary definitions. We WORSHIP God alone in prayer – but we PRAY to many people.

“Pray” is legal, juridical language that is used in Court documents to this day.
NOBODY is being “worshipped” in court. YOUR problem, besides being a rabid anti-Catholic - is an obvious ignorance of the English language.

The Greek word for “Pray” used in the NT is:
προσευχηομαι
Pronunciation: pros-yoo'-khom-ahee
Definition: 1) to offer prayers, to pray, SUPPLICATE, worship

Stop quoting the Bible until you actually understand what it says . . .

 

[Grailhunter]

Tell us, what is the "false belief" of Genesis chapter 1 ???

בְּרֵאשִׁ֖ית (bə·rê·šîṯ)
Preposition-b | Noun - feminine singular
Strong's Hebrew 7225: 1) first, beginning, best, chief 1a) beginning 1b) first 1c) chief 1d) choice part

God
אֱלֹהִ֑ים (’ĕ·lō·hîm)
Noun - masculine plural
Strong's Hebrew 430: 1) (plural) 1a) rulers, judges 1b) divine ones 1c) angels 1d) gods 2) (plural intensive-singular meaning) 2a) god, goddess 2b) godlike one 2c) works or special possessions of God 2d) the (true) God 2e) God

It is not a false belief, it is the way the Hebrew language works.
Do you think Yahweh is a woman?

 

[Grailhunter]

i enjoy reading your responses, they can be quite entertaining.

Like this statement = "just because you find a three aspect in God's name does not prove the three in one formula for the Trinity."


Actually, they do!

John 7:38 - On the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried out, saying, “If anyone thirsts, let him come to Me and drink.
He who believes in Me, as the Scripture has said, out of his heart will flow rivers of living water.”


"The Only True Elohim" = Plurality of Echad


Genesis to Revelation Speak of THREE, Who are Echad Elohim

Pray for the LORD to open the scriptures to you = Luke 24:45

Again Yahweh said several times He is the only God and there is no one like Him. Do you think Yahweh is a liar? If the Israelites or Jews would have caught someone worshipping Yeshua they would have killed them as directed by the Mosaic Law.

 

[David1701]

Yes – ONLY if you include the likes of the late anti-Catholic cartoonist Jack Chick and fugitive conman Alberto Riveera.

BOTH of these yahoos have been DEBUNKED so many times that it is comical you would consider their false accusations as anything other than the manure that they are. There are entire websites committed to exposing Chick’s nonsense.

For crying out loud – these idiots were adherents of Alexander Hislop and his ridiculous book, The Two Babylons., which has been debunked by virtually EVERY theologian and historian - Protestant, Cathoolic and secular . . .

Yes, let’s TALK about that court case . . .

First of all – Lincoln was one of a team of lawyers on that case. And the reason there was a court case in the first place is because Chiniquy was being SUED by Peter Spink for $40,000 because of false and slanderous claims against him.

In the END, having NO other alternative – Chiniquy’s layers (including Lincoln) finally convinced him to settle the matter OUT of court or be faced with having to pay the ENTIRE fine.

Chiniquy was a LIAR, and an embezzler – as his Protestant congregations eventually discovered . . .

WRONG.

The Bible mentions PAGANS who worshipped and offered sacrifices to a female deity whom THEY referred to as “Queen of Heaven”.

Let’s explore this . . .

So, you’re a Biblical Literalist, who believes that ONLY those things that are explicitly-mentioned in Scripture are those things we are to adhere to? NO room for Symbolism, Allegory or Implied Truth - of which there is PLENTY on Scripture?

Please EXPLAIN, then how you come to Protestant doctrines and practices like:
- Sola Scriptura
- The Rapture
- Accepting Christ as personal Lord and Savior
- Limited Atonement
- Altar Calls
- Infant Dedications
- Eternal Security - “Once saved, always saved”
And MANY others . . .

The title, “Queen of Heaven” can be attributed ti Mary because if the implicitly-taught truth in Revelation:
Rev 12:1
A great sign appeared in the sky, a WOMAN clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head A CROWN OF TWELVE STARS.
She was with child and wailed aloud in pain as she labored to give birth.

This is what is known to theologians as “polyvalent symbolism” (sorry for the big words).

We know that this child is Jesus because in verse 4, we read:
“She gave birth to a son, a male child, destined to rule all the nations with an iron rod.”

This can ALSO represent Israel because of the Twelve Stars on her crown – and the fact that Jesus came from the Jews.

“Polyvalent” means that there are multiple meanings to a symbol.
There is simply NO getting around the fact that the Woman here in Revelation 12 is Mary.

Pro. 16:18 (MKJV) Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.

 

[David in NJ]

Again Yahweh said several times He is the only God and there is no one like Him. Do you think Yahweh is a liar? If the Israelites or Jews would have caught someone worshipping Yeshua they would have killed them as directed by the Mosaic Law.

Yahweh is Echad with His FATHER = as is the Ruach HaKodesh = THREE

There is no distinction from the fact that all THREE are the Elohim of Genesis chapter 1

The Hebrew apostle John knew this and thus he opened his gospel with Genesis 1:1

As a Hebrew, John knew that there is Only One True Elohim
1.) "I and My FATHER are ONE"
2.) "This is Eternal Life: to Know You, the only true God and Jesus Christ whom You sent"
3.) "If you love Me keep My commandments and I will pray to the FATHER that you may receive the SPIRIT of TRUTH"