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The Light

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We are told to WATCH by the Lord. I have run across a three-part video, that I would imagine that many of you have seen. Scripture after scripture is claimed to indicate that Jesus returns in 2030.

Have any of you seen these videos and do you think they are correct?

Here is part one.


This 2030 date is actually the date that the millennial kingdom is set up.

If the millennial kingdom is set up in 2030, what should we be seeing today?
 
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We are told to WATCH by the Lord. I have run across a three-part video, that I would imagine that many of you have seen. Scripture after scripture is claimed to indicate that Jesus returns in 2030.

Nothing like watching a nice video of people's guess work

Your post does not contain the link to the video
 
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We can know the season though and should know the season.

But not the day.

If someone ever guessed the day, the Lord would have to change the day He returns so he is not a liar.
 
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No,they will never be correct. Because Jesus said no man knows the day or time of his return. Not even the son of man.
The Son of man did not know the day and hour when He was on the earth. Only the Father knew.

However, don't forget that Jesus went to heaven to be with the Father. He would know then, wouldn't He?

Didn't John get a Revelation of Jesus Christ after Jesus went to the father?

Didn't Jesus say watch or we would not know the hour that He would come.

Revelation 3
3 Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.

We are told to watch. If we do not watch, we will not know the hour of His coming.
 
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Jesus went to heaven to be with the Father. He would know then, wouldn't He?

We are joint heirs with Jesus so if He knows now and someone asks Him for that information believing in faith, Jesus would have to disclose it since we are joint heirs with Him which means we are in covenant with Him and He shares what He has with us and we share what we have with Him




We are told to watch. If we do not watch, we will not know the hour of His coming.

Another reason why Jesus is not going to tell us what day.

If He did, many would live in sin and they repent the day before Jesus is scheduled to return or they would otherwise be lazy so it would not be good for man to know what day even if that were possible.
 

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It seems many scriptures point to the Millennial Kingdom being set up in 2030.

If this is true and accurate, that would mean that we are already in the final week.

If we were in the final week, we would see a covenant with many that started the final week or 7 year period.

Since the Millennial Kingdom will begin on the Feast of Tabernacles that would mean that the covenant with many would begin in the fall as the Feast of Tabernacles is a fall feast.

If we counted back 7 years that would mean there would have to be a covenant with many in the fall of 2023.

Do we have a covenant with many of one week or 7 years in the fall of 2023?

Actually, there is a covenant with many for 7 years that was on the United Nations website. It began in September of 2023 which is 7 years before the fall of 2030.

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At the time this 7-year covenant was discovered there was a lot of talk about it by many watchmen. When time passed, it all died down as nothing happened.

On the UN site it actually said 7 years, Leave no one behind. I wish I had taken a screen shot it, but I didn't.

Has this covenant that began in September of 2023 been confirmed by the prince that shall come? No. Not at this time. But there is nothing in scripture that says the covenant is confirmed when it is made. But there is an actual covenant with many 7 years before 2030. Interestingly enough it is under Agenda 2030 of the UN.
 

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Messiah 2030 is based on the belief that the rapture will happen in 2023, followed by the 7-year tribulation, with the Lord returning to set up His kingdom in 2030. Correct me if I'm wrong, but there was no rapture in 2023 was there.
 

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The Son of man did not know the day and hour when He was on the earth. Only the Father knew.

However, don't forget that Jesus went to heaven to be with the Father. He would know then, wouldn't He?

Didn't John get a Revelation of Jesus Christ after Jesus went to the father?

Didn't Jesus say watch or we would not know the hour that He would come.

Revelation 3
3 Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.

We are told to watch. If we do not watch, we will not know the hour of His coming.
Jesus did not say that we would ever know the hour of His coming until He actually comes.

Here is Jesus talking to believers:

Matthew 24:42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. 43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up. 44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.

To watch for His coming means to acknowledge that He is indeed going to come and to be ready for His coming whenever He does come. Watching has nothing to do with knowing what hour He will come. We are to watch for signs that His coming is near so that we are ready. Knowing when His coming is near and being ready for it is totally different than knowing what hour He will come.
 
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The Son of man did not know the day and hour when He was on the earth. Only the Father knew.

However, don't forget that Jesus went to heaven to be with the Father. He would know then, wouldn't He?

Didn't John get a Revelation of Jesus Christ after Jesus went to the father?

Didn't Jesus say watch or we would not know the hour that He would come.

Revelation 3
3 Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.

We are told to watch. If we do not watch, we will not know the hour of His coming.
The point being,no one on earth knows.
 
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Revelation 3
3 Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.
Does that sound like a massive group event?

"Thee" is singular.
 

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Has this covenant that began in September of 2023 been confirmed by the prince that shall come? No. Not at this time. But there is nothing in scripture that says the covenant is confirmed when it is made. But there is an actual covenant with many 7 years before 2030. Interestingly enough it is under Agenda 2030 of the UN.
Daniel 9:27
And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.


I believe the scripture indicates that the 7 year or one week covenant will be confirmed by a man. Also, are we seeing sacrifices happen yet??
 
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Daniel 9:27
And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.


I believe the scripture indicates that the 7 year or one week covenant will be confirmed by a man. Also, are we seeing sacrifices happen yet??
No. But not for the lack of effort to do so .

 

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Another reason why Jesus is not going to tell us what day.
Yes, and if we know the day and hour, there's no need to watch.

But...

1 Peter 4:7
But the end of all things is at hand: be ye therefore sober, and watch unto prayer. 1 Peter
 

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No. But not for the lack of effort to do so .

Sacrifices are taking place at the Temple Mount, and have been for a long time.... but not the Biblically described sacrifices of lambs, calves, etc.
 

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Messiah 2030 is based on the belief that the rapture will happen in 2023, followed by the 7-year tribulation, with the Lord returning to set up His kingdom in 2030. Correct me if I'm wrong, but there was no rapture in 2023 was there.
From what I see, I don't think that Messiah 2030 has anything about the pretribulation rapture. It merely states all the scriptures that He believes point to the coming of Jesus in 2030. Given his timeline it points to 2030 being when Jesus comes to set up the millennial kingdom. Each day being 1000 years and the Lord resting after 6 days.

However, I also listed the Berisheet Prophecy on another post. According to what he lists, he also comes up with it being prophesied that Jesus sets up His kingdom in 2030. This individual does list the pretribulation rapture occurring in 2023.

Of course, we know that it didn't happen.

It is commonly taught, and I thought the same thing for years, that the Church would be raptured before the 7 years begins.

But when we examine the scriptures, Noah was not in the boat 7 days before the flood. Noah loaded the animals on the first day. And what we don't know is the day that the ark door was shut by God. God does not tell us what that day, of the 7 days, is.
 
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Jesus did not say that we would ever know the hour of His coming until He actually comes.

Here is Jesus talking to believers:

Matthew 24:42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. 43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up. 44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.

To watch for His coming means to acknowledge that He is indeed going to come and to be ready for His coming whenever He does come. Watching has nothing to do with knowing what hour He will come. We are to watch for signs that His coming is near so that we are ready. Knowing when His coming is near and being ready for it is totally different than knowing what hour He will come.
Revelation 3
3 Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.