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Modern day miracles

Discussion in 'The Church Forum' started by GaryAnderson, Aug 13, 2021.

  1. Mungo

    Mungo Well-Known Member

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    Still waiting for evidence to backup your opinions
    Why are you running away from that?

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    Just look through all your posts in this thread and you have not given a single piece of evidence for your opinions either from scripture or non-scripture.
    Why is that?
     
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  2. An Apologetic Sheepdog

    An Apologetic Sheepdog Well-Known Member

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    Is your record skipping or do you just want some attention?

    Is that it? You don't have the base subject matter knowledge to formulate a cogent thought to discuss so you just prattle in a circle hoping to stimulate some kind of a response?

    Follow my posts, I don't run from or fail to engage anything or anyone but you cant seem to even present a premise ( your own or mine) to start with. I'm not inclined to do your thinking for you.
     
  3. Mungo

    Mungo Well-Known Member

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    Just looked through all your posts in this thread and you have not given a single piece of evidence for your opinions either from scripture or non-scripture.
    Why is that?
     
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    Stan B Well-Known Member

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    I don't recall ever reading that in Scripture. Reference ??
     
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    An Apologetic Sheepdog Well-Known Member

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    Proverbs 28:9 specifically

    John 9:31 in general

    Psalm 66:18 in general

    Proverbs 15:29 strongly inferred
     
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    An Apologetic Sheepdog Well-Known Member

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    asked and answered already and unlike others, I don't generally repeat myself.

    You were given options- use them
     
  7. Mungo

    Mungo Well-Known Member

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    Well done!
    You see you can do it with just a little bit of effort.
    Now you just need to learn to do it when make the original post.
     
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    Stan B Well-Known Member

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    "He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, Even his prayer is an abomination."

    That refers to the dichotomy of those who reject God and His Word, and then pray??

    But He promises that those who seek Me will find me, and of course He hears the sinners prayer. To say that God does not listen to the prayers of the "unrighteous" would simply mean that He doesn't listen to ANY prayers, since none of us are righteous, no not one!
     
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    An Apologetic Sheepdog Well-Known Member

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    Come on, get with the program and take everything in proper context and don't split hairs for the sake of argument.

    God's states priority is HIS PEOPLE ( as the Father). God made a path for "the world" to come to Him.

    Those who do not take that path do not get the benefits that the children of the promise do.

    There are hundreds of scripture defining and separating Gods children and the "world".

    None of this obviously precludes or denies or even try to say that God will not inject Himself into any situation in any way he sees fit- he will.

    God will also hear and respond to a sinner seeking repentance

    The concept like "Bruce Almighty" with a "yahweh.com" set up is an anti scriptural fantasy.
     
  10. An Apologetic Sheepdog

    An Apologetic Sheepdog Well-Known Member

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    Its your turn
     
  11. Heart2Soul

    Heart2Soul Spiritual Warrior Staff Member

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    It's obvious you are a cessationists....perhaps even dispensationalist...reformist....anglican....gnosticism.
    So your argument is no more valid to those who believe in miracles today as theirs are to your belief.
     
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    An Apologetic Sheepdog Well-Known Member

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    Wrong on all counts and despite your statement, you have done nothing to refute or invalidate anything I said.

    "miracles" are specifically defined and not true or false based on ones "belief" or "perception" or do you not understand that?

    I also never said they didn't happen or ceased, I simply followed the scriptural requirements as written regarding discernment (you do know what they are right?)

    I invite you to point out the scriptural error i made.
     
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    Heart2Soul Spiritual Warrior Staff Member

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    I refute everything you have said based on my own miracles I have experienced. You cannot take away my testimony....my faith...nor my Father in who I believe all things are possible to them who believe.
     
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    An Apologetic Sheepdog Well-Known Member

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    In other words you just believe because its your private belief thing and because of that your 'miracles" are exempt from written biblical requirements because of your feelings? I say that because thats the only grounds you have proffered so far as a basis of invalidating anything I said. Should that be taken that "your experience" is superior to the written word?

    No one ( especially me) made no such attempt and your accusation is absurd, unwarranted and false on its merits and i challenge you to show anywhere that i have even broached on any of them. Is this a shining example of your "comprehension and discernment" you use to "validate" your claim of miracles?

    I'm curious.
     
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    My son who now is a surgical tech at the hospital was around 12 and was diagnosed with Crohn's disease. In the meantime we took him down for an alter call and the church gathered around and laid hands on him...a large crowd, each laying their hands on him and each other's shoulders. They prayed and anointed him with oil. That was the end of any symptoms of Crohn's

    When we took him back up to Children's Hospital in St. Louis because he was scheduled for a colonoscopy. The camera showed no signs of Crohn's...no scarring. Now Crohn's can go into remission but his symptoms stopped immediately and never came back. He told of the calming effect of the laying on of hands and anointing.
     
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    Grailhunter Well-Known Member

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    And this is why people are hesitant to share.
    Do he think that God is not real? That He retired after the Bible? That He does not have the power?
    Most certainly a very sad excuse for a Christian.
     
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    Heart2Soul Spiritual Warrior Staff Member

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    I don't have to validate my declaration to you...a non-believer of miracles. What He has done in my life is personal....what else would anyone expect it to be....that's why you or anyone cannot steal my testimony that I share to give Him Glory and to give hope to others.
     
  18. An Apologetic Sheepdog

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    You have a habit of jumping to wholly unfounded conclusions then deep diving into the shallow end with rants unsupported by any truth whatsoever.

    I never said anything of the sort nor do I believe that.

    I was talking about discernment of "miracles" in an age where we are guaranteed false miracles ( which is a scriptural requirement and warning)

    Perhaps you might profit from reading a Bible then getting someone to explain it to you.

    And no one "stole" ( or attempted) to "steal" your testimony
     
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    That’s amazing @Grailhunter and thank you for sharing that ! It’s stories like these that warm your heart and give all who believe peace of mind that God is with us and he hears the prayers of all those who are in pain physically and mentally.
    Glory to God !
     
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    Miracles from Heaven, is a movie worth watching based on a true story of a little girl whose family was very devout who was diagnosed with an incurable disease and had a near death experience where she saw Jesus and was subsequently healed to the amazement of the doctors.
     
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