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[Ritajanice]

I have been posting it this whole time

When nicodemus asked how these things can be 9the imperishable seed) Jesus answered that he had to be lifted on the cross, as moses raised the serpent. so that whoever believes will nto die

Imperishable seed is not the cross..it’s the Living Holy Spirit..looking to the cross, and believing Jesus died on that cross, they must be Born Again of imperishable seed the Living word of God.

The reason anyone will nto suffer the second death judgment is because of the cross..

But God will not force you to believe, you must chose

How can you not believe even though the spirit is convicting you?

That is not how we are Born Again by the Living word of God..that’s your opinion.

People do it every day, Read the book of John, People saw Jesus do things of the spirit, yet hardened their heart so hard that even raising Lazarus from the dead did nto convince them

Hence they commited the unpardonable sin

That is not how we are Born Again.

 

[Ritajanice]

There is no mention of imperishable seed in this scripture @Eternally Grateful ?

How you came to the knowledge that being Born Again of imperishable seed..is the cross...it’s pretty baffling to say the least.

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The above scripture is teaching us that we became born again through the avenue or channel of the Word of God. Every one of us got born again through the Living Word. That is the ingredient that gave us the new birth. And the bible calls it, “an incorruptible seed”. That means it cannot be destroyed!

Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be?
[10] Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?
[11] Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.
[12] If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?
[13] And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
[14] And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
[15] That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life

 

[Behold]

God saved us from eternal damnation, when he made us Born Again by His Living word.

Absolutely.

Faith is a gift from God a manifestation of the Spirit.biblical.

Faith is what we give to God, its ours... Not His.

See, if God caused us to believe, then He would not require us to Believe.

And He does require it...

Our sins are forgiven once God brings us to repentance...your post is not biblical, that’s why it’s confusing.

If we repent of our sins, but we dont believe in Jesus, then are we saved?

We are not.

If we are water baptized but not born again, are we saved? = NOPE>

So, the repentance that God requires is to turn from UNBELIEF, to Faith, iin Christ.

Again not biblical...we are Born Again by the Living word of God.

We are born again by the Spirit of God.
Its the same HS that created Jesus inside a Virgin's womb.

You can’t believe in God without His Spirit..impossible.

WE are led to the Truth by the Spirit of God.
A Baptist would say.>"the conviction of the Holy Spirit"...
And once we have this revelation Knowledge...once we "come to the Knowledge of the Truth" that Jesus is the Savior and we need to be saved.....the we believe or not.

If you read Hebrews chapter 6 and 10, you see Jews who know its true, but wont have it.
They KNOW, its true... they have "tasted the heavenly gift"... they have been shown by the Holy Spirit...

And they say....."NO NO NO"..

That is the "unpardonable sin" being committed... "willfully" by those HEBREWS.. (Jews).

We wouldn’t know how to have faith in Christ without His Spirit..Faith is a gift from God.

See, Faith in Christ is easy to know. ... to understand, but to BELIEVE IT....is to TRUST, and not all who know its TRUTE will trust.

No one who is Born Again by the Living Spirit..can go to hell.

You can't stop being born again.

WE can't get Jesus out of us as we are Joined To Him, Spiritually, and Eternally.

 

[Ritajanice]

Absolutely.



Faith is what we give to God, its ours... Not His.

See, if God caused us to believe, then He would not require us to Believe.

And He does require it...



If we repent of our sins, but we dont believe in Jesus, then are we saved?

We are not.

If we are water baptized but not born again, are we saved? = NOPE>

So, the repentance that God requires is to turn from UNBELIEF, to Faith, iin Christ.




We are born again by the Spirit of God.
Its the same HS that created Jesus inside a Virgin's womb.




WE are led to the Truth by the Spirit of God.
A Baptist would say.>"the conviction of the Holy Spirit"...
And once we have this revelation Knowledge...once we "come to the Knowledge of the Truth" that Jesus is the Savior and we need to be saved.....the we believe or not.

If you read Hebrews chapter 6 and 10, you see Jews who know its true, but wont have it.
They KNOW, its true... they have "tasted the heavenly gift"... they have been shown by the Holy Spirit...

And they say....."NO NO NO"..

That is the "unpardonable sin" being committed... "willfully" by those HEBREWS.. (Jews).




See, Faith in Christ is easy to know. ... to understand, but to BELIEVE IT....is to TRUST, and not all who know its TRUTE will trust.




You can't stop being born again.

WE can't get Jesus out of us as we are Joined To Him, Spiritually, and Eternally.

Behold, I see no point in going over the same ground....I believe what I believe you believe what you believe.

Best we leave it there....we are most definitely on different levels of spiritual understanding in this area, that’s for sure...God Bless and happy posting.xx

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Imperishable seed is not the cross..it’s the Living Holy Spirit..looking to the cross, and believing Jesus died on that cross, they must be Born Again of imperishable seed the Living word of God.

your born again of imperishable seed WHEN you believe.

That is not how we are Born Again by the Living word of God..that’s your opinion.

Thats your opinion

That is not how we are Born Again.

Then Jesus lied.

 

[Ritajanice]

your born again of imperishable seed WHEN you believe.

Not biblical..imperishable seed is not the cross...we are not Born Again of the cross...very confusing, is your words...you can’t believe in Jesus in our spirit, without being Born Again of imperishable seed...the Spirit brings the truth of Gods Living word Alive in our hearts/ spirit....which is backed up in Gods written word.

Thats your opinion

Then Jesus lied.

The cross does not make us Born Again...the cross is needed in the death and resurrection of Jesus..that’s the only way we can become Born Again.

We become Born Again by the Living Spirit Of God..we need both.

The cross + the Living Spirit Of God...when we become Born Again in our spirit..that is the Living spiritual rebirth, that only God can do.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Not biblical..imperishable seed is not the cross...we are not Born Again of the cross...very confusing, is your words...you can’t believe in Jesus in our spirit, without being Born Again of imperishable seed...the Spirit brings the truth of Gods Living word Alive in our hearts/ spirit....which is backed up in Gods written word.

Your not born again UNTIL you recieve the cross.

What do you think your saved from?

The cross does not make us Born Again...the cross is needed in the death and resurrection of Jesus..that’s the only way we can become Born Again.

We become Born Again by the Living Spirit Of God..we need both.

The cross + the Living Spirit Of God...when we become Born Again in our spirit..that is the Living spiritual rebirth, that only God can do.

You almost got it

Yes, we need borh.

But GOD WILL NOT FORCE YOU TO TRUST THAT.. He requires you to recieve it

But as many as have recieved him, to THEM he gave the right to become children of God. to those who BELIEVE in his name!

 

[Ritajanice]

Your not born again UNTIL you recieve the cross.

What do you think your saved from?

You almost got it

Yes, we need borh.

But GOD WILL NOT FORCE YOU TO TRUST THAT.. He requires you to recieve it

But as many as have recieved him, to THEM he gave the right to become children of God. to those who BELIEVE in his name!

Your not born again UNTIL you recieve the cross.

Not biblical..we are Born Again by the Spirit of God, biblical.

What do you think your saved from?

You almost got it

Yes, we need borh.

But GOD WILL NOT FORCE YOU TO TRUST THAT.. He requires you to recieve it

Not biblical...

But as many as have recieved him, to THEM he gave the right to become children of God. to those who BELIEVE in his name!

Once again that is not saying how we are Born Of The Spirit...that is your own understanding of how you believe you have been Born Of The Spirit..


You can only believe in the Name of Jesus by His witness the Holy Spirit, when he makes us Born Again of imperishable seed..then we have the indwelling Holy Spirit in our heart..who witnesses Gods truth to our heart all day every day.

We receive the Spirit Of Jesus..we don’t receive the cross into our heart...not biblical.

The cross was needed in order to receive the Holy Spirit.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Not biblical

Not biblical...

Once again that is not saying how we are Born Of The Spirit...that is your own understanding of how you believe you have been Born Of The Spirit..


You can only believe in the Name of Jesus by His witness the Holy Spirit, when he makes us Born Again of imperishable seed..then we have the indwelling Holy Spsee here we go again

You have no fact. You just give your opinion.

I will take what the wor4d says, You continue to believe the way you do.

You want to follow calvinism. feel free.. Thats on you

 

[Ritajanice]

You have no fact. You just give your opinion.

I will take what the wor4d says, You continue to believe the way you do.

You want to follow calvinism. feel free.. Thats on you

That’s your opinion of me.and an assumption that I follow Calvin...I follow the leading of the Holy Spirit and will continue to do so,

I will leave it there as like Behold we are on different levels of spiritual understanding.

No point going over the same old ground that before we know it, we’re caught up in it.

Enjoy the rest of your day and happy posting.xx

 

[Prycejosh1987]

I believe that all have sinned. Where we draw the line is how often we sin. We can always expect to sin, but i believe we need to constantly say sorry and persistent in doing it less and less as time goes on. This goes for all forms of sin. Lust has a boundary which is higher than other forms of sin. This is probably the reason why masturbation is not included in the bible which is odd. But stealing offers nothing good when a person can work, and murder is not a good thing when we can just let go of a bad past. Lying is bad because it causes more problems than it solves, etc. Just asking asking for forgiveness to keep the relationship with God in tact.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Predestination According to Demonic John Calvin​

According to John Calvin, predestination is God’s unchangeable decree from before the creation of the world that God would freely save some people (the elect), foreordaining them to eternal life, while the others would be “barred from access to” salvation and sentenced to “eternal death."., (Just for being born).

So, according to Calvin's theology, some of your family were "pre-chosen" by God to burn in the Lake of Fire, before they were even born.

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See that Reader? ??

That is the Demonic John Calvin teaching that before some are born, God has "decreed" that they are born only to burn in the Lake of FIRE. = pre-destined.

"Pre-destined by GOD, to go to Hell, then the Lake of Fire"...

See,..... the issue with this doctrine of devil's is MANY.... as this hellish doctrine is (T.U.L.I.P) LEGION... and what you have to SEE.. .Reader... is that all of us are EQUAL, regarding originally being a SINNER.

Why? "Because ALL HAVE SINNED".

This is why "Jesus came into the world TO SAVE SINNERS"< not the "elect only" as Demonic "TULIP" & Calvinism Teaches.

Calvinism Abuses God, willfully..= by falsely accusing Him of causing people to NOT BELIEVE... As they are not "chosen" to believe.
They are "pre-destined into ..(FORCED BY GOD))...= Unbelief".., .is what this DEVIL Teaches people to Believe.

So, here is how THEOLOGICALLY INSANE John Calvinism is...

Reader, ....

Unbelievers go to Hell because they never Believed in Jesus, were never born again, and die.... so God judges them... John 3:36, after they die., for their Christ REJECTION....

So, if God is causing them NOT to Believe, ..as the demonic John Calvin teaches... then How can GOD be just, honest, true, and right, if He decided they can't BELIEVE in Jesus, before they were born...... and then after they, you, me, are here on earth, and we die.... God judges us into eternal damnation, and HE is the reason we could not believe. !!

Do you see how CALVINISM accuses God of being some sort of cosmic psychopath, who wont let you believe in Jesus, then sends you to hell after you die, for "not BELIEVING", as you were not 'chosen/pre-destined to believe".,,. according to the Theological Blasphemy of John Calvin.

His Theology is OF THE DEVIL.
Its a CANCER on the Body of Christ.

Don't believe it reader.
Avoid people who teach it.
Don't let them get to your family.
And if you have been infected with demonic Calvinism, then simply realize that God's Grace, that is the Cross of Christ, is not Limited in any Way... as its "The GIFT of Salvation" to ALL who will believe.

Well you make another slanderous allegation and yet you refuse to quote Calvin in saying he taught double predestination.

Now if you would quote Calvin when you accuse him, you could have some credibiblity. Until then....

 

[Behold]

Well you make another slanderous allegation

Not at all.

And as i was talking to you previously, about a fact of Calvinism- Tulip..... that all who are deceived by it, do not really deeply consider.

Its the "ugly reality" regarding this major cult teaching.

Its very simple.
Calvin-Tulip teach that some are "pre-destined" to burn in the Lake of Fire, as there is no other eternal option available, as Calvin-Tulip teach that GOD does not choose some to Believe so that they can go to Heaven, so they have no choice but to burn in the Lake of Fire.

Now, Calvinism-Tulip does not teach, never did teach, and never will teach..... that ENTIRE FAMILIES are all "pre-destined".

So, Calvinist - Tulip person... = that means that some in your family, are - pre-destined by God, to not be able to believe in Jesus, and so, they will burn in the lake of fire.
Now...Who is it in your family that Calvin-Tulip = has predestined to not be chosen to believe,???? As those..... will burn in the Lake of Fire, according to Calvinism-TULIP = "Doctrine of devils." Hebrews 13:9
And don't try to lie and say..."oh, all of my family are pre-destined".

Sorry no, that LIE wont FLY..

So, that's the bottom line, and if you are going to believe this JUNK< then we are going to talk about what i just showed you.

See, Calvinists, want to ruin forums and corrupt a believer's faith with this Doctrine, but they dont want to deal with the Bottom line of this putrid doctrine, as then they have to talk about who in their family is PREDESTINED BY GOD to burn in the Lake of Fire.

= So, there is "Calvinism-Tulip"...

God did not create it, Paul did not teach it.., and so anyone who can realize just how demonic is this DOCTRINE should despise it.

Calvinism will get you killed.....because it'll cause you to believe that God predestined you to get sick, and then you wont be able to pray for healing, as you'll believe God "put it on you" Himself.... (Predestined)... And in some cases, if God does not heal you, you're dead.
So, Calvinism - Tulip can get you Killed.

And according to Calvinism - TULIP some of your family will go to HELL and then the Lake of Fire, and they had no choice but to GO., as they were "born for this".

 

[Rella ~ I am a woman]

Well you make another slanderous allegation and yet you refuse to quote Calvin in saying he taught double predestination.

Now if you would quote Calvin when you accuse him, you could have some credibiblity. Until then....

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John Calvin Quotes About Predestination​

God preordained, for his own glory and the display of His attributes of mercy and justice, a part of the human race, without any merit of their own, to eternal salvation, and another part, in just punishment of their sin, to eternal damnation.

John Calvin

For Scripture is the school of the Holy Spirit, in which, as nothing is omitted that is both necessary and useful to know, so nothing is taught but what is expedient to know. Therefore we must guard against depriving believers of anything disclosed about predestination in Scripture, lest we seem either wickedly to defraud them of the blessing of their God or to accuse and scoff at the Holy Spirit for having published what it is in any way profitable to suppress.

John Calvin

By predestination we mean the eternal decree of God, by which He determined with Himself whatever He wished to happen with regard to every man

John Calvin