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Hell is found at the end of a Christ rejecting Life.........so, if a person is not born again when they die, they go to Hell.
Hell begins here.. and comtinues.
John 3:36.
The MaryCult destroyed Christianity, until Martin Luther and a few others showed up.
Currently the MaryCult only destroys it own., similar to the JW cult.
Paul stated that his death would bring him into the presence of Jesus.
Your verse is speaking about the Rapture.
If you study this out, you find that the Saints meet the Lord in the Clouds. So, this is not on the ground as you find during the 2nd Advent of Jesus.
Your cult does not follow Paul's doctrine.
So, that is why you dont recognize it when i share it with you.
See, you wasted 50 yrs of your life chasing JW cult theology, and Paul's doctrine is not found there.
The bible is a Translation of Men, so, if you imply that you can't trust it, while you say its "Holy" then you are just proving you own confusion again.
Which of the 30 NT "extant K.Greek texts" are you trying to believe?
You're wasting your time.
Also, Ive been trained in Manuscript Evidence.
However God does not us a basically dead language....."koine Grk" to teach the Church.
He uses English most of All, as the world language currency is English, not Greek and not Latin or German or French or Eboinics.
God knew that this would happen, (God's Foreknowledge) so that is why the English Traslations are superior and worldwide.
did you just put your self in a equal standing with Paul and the rest of the apostles ?
odd how there are so many different english ...that dont use the same words
So, what is the promised future Resurrection, for? (Acts 24:15) If the dead are still living somewhere, there'd be no need for them to come back to life.
"God is no respecter of persons".
So, what i did, was ....i explained to a JW Cult member that Paul stated that He would be with Jesus as soon as He died.
And therefore, when they cut off His head, his twitching body lay there next to the chopping block, bleeding out of his neck, and his born again spirit went to Jesus, as he stated would happen.
Reading skill and comprehension will be involved.
What is most important is for the Christian to know some bible........to have studied it for years....... and learn Paul's doctrine, and become really familar with the scriptures in the NT.......so that they can instantly know when a new bible's verse is wrong and why.
A.) We (The born again Christian) .. (not the water baptized religious fakir),....shall be TRANSFORMED... in the Twinkling of an eye".
And that Transformation.. happens in the Rapture, when the born again initially meet the Lord and receive their NEW Body.
you may like to think paul went in that moment . there is however a different Possibility
Taken
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If what said is in conflict with you, Quote me, and I’ll show you the Scriptural verification.
Aunty Jane
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What does John say in context?
John 3:34-36...KJV...
“For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him. The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand. He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.”
Do you see anything there that would indicate that we should only rely on Paul for Bible truth?
That is if anyone can understand the dead language of the KJV? English is not necessarily English when it comes to translation.....you have to be able to read it in the vernacular, no matter what language you speak.
That is the whole point of translation. Choose your scholars. Choose your manuscripts. There is but one truth.
Translators may change the words but never the message.
Everything Jesus had, was “given” to him, including “ALL authority in heaven and on earth”....does God need anything to be “given” to him if he already has it? (Matt 28:18)
Tell us then why Paul was water baptized like all of Christ’s other disciples?
Why was Jesus himself water baptized? You make no sense.
Won’t it be interesting when the event so expected and anticipated by the masses, turns out to be the opposite of what the “born again” imagine?
Jesus will reveal all at the judgment.....(Matt 7:21-23) There will be great disbelief and disappointment among the disillusioned.....”weeping and gnashing of teeth”...the “broad road” on which the majority are travelling, doesn’t lead to where most people think it does. (Matt 7:13-14)
Arent you forgetting "the unrighteous"? They too receive a Resurrection. They're not Born Again....
Yes. That's by design. Most translators are predisposed to certain tenets / beliefs, and they use words that really hide the meaning of the text. It's so evident when a person utilizes a Hebrew/English (or Greek/English) Lexicon! Especially where the original-language words for "soul" are used in verses that say the "soul died" or "dead soul".
How long have you struggled with English? Since you stepped foot in Kingdom Hall maybe? That'll do it.
it was a amazing how fast the building went up . the people in the church down the road were a amazed at what we did is such a short amount of time .
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