'No Immortal Soul'? (Challenge)
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I am not desirous to answer your question. Have done posted several times what it is personally believed by me, but it shouldn't really matter to you. Why do you ask this question for? It really has nothing to do with what was being spoken about before all of a sudden.
I asked, Because Scripture says that is what happens, even gives an example of a body dying, the soul departed, a prayer to God to return the soul to its body. The prayer was answered and the body revived and was again alive.
When a soul departs out of a dead body, the soul continues living and is;
* escorted to heaven (if saved) or
* sent to hell (if not saved).
The souls wait (in heaven or hell) for the rest of the souls of men to depart, escorted or sent…and all in waiting for Judgement day.
Aside from Biblical examples, people in this day have had that experience. Body dead, soul departed, and then returned to their body, and body revived.
The reasoning is you said you don’t believe hell exists anymore. But yet, scripture reveals the unsaved souls of dead body’s goes to hell to wait judgement. And the waiting in hell is high discomfort and unpleasantness.
Taken, I highly disagree with you that hell is still active today, no matter how many time you want to address it just know, I will continue to believe that Jesus has overcame this place. You have to understand that, as part of the encounter team. You are not going to get me to surcum to what you believe or believe I need to believe, you will have to get me banned. I believe all people are judged at death, and God places them where they are meant to be, outside of the kingdom, or inside the kingdom as expressed in Revelation 21-22, do not care how long you studied Revelation for, or who you did it with. I support people reading it and studying it, however they should be encouraged not to accept what people say about it as truth without doing it themselves.
Do you understand what I am telling you?
My belief is mine.
You revealed you base your belief of a non-existent hell is based on Revelations.
The Lord God doesn’t wait to see what will happen, He already knows.
It is man that waits to see, the fruition, the manifestation.
What Jesus overcame (hell, death), still applies to men.
I gave you notice there are scriptures that are still applicable as long as mortals are born, die….their souls (saved and unsaved) go somewhere.
It is not about believing me, rather believing the Word of God.
Remember the Lord does not want men to be ignorant. And that is why the Saved share Gods Word.
Glory to God,
Taken
Of course, and the Bible states that Hell is done and over with. Whether one believes that or not is between themselves, and Yahava.
I am not here to judge anyone. What you believe is personal, and I haven't made fun of you because you still believe that people go to hell. That is just how people traditionally tend to believe, and I also made bible references... whether one believes them or not, again is between the person and Yahava, and what they believe his will pertains to... the more one gets closer to Yahava, the better off they will be, without worry, and with gaining peace learning about God, and even through a life fully of uncertainty, ups an downs, and challenges in looking towards a good God, who's Son has had victory over all things.
Not to sure what else you would like to me know and make sure I know before we finally end this conversation which may be now as it seems fair you desired to let me know what you wanted to, and I accept that as your view.
Why do you need to know? So you can tell me I am wrong, and I dont understand revelation rightly, and that hell is not done away with yet, cause all things things have not happened yet, we are still waitining? Endless questions rather than faith in that Jesus came, and was seen and saved his bride in Ad 70, as he promised to come back. Or it still has not happened is all it is ever left down too.
I don't care if people believe that Jesus is still to come back today in this age. I do not believe them. I believe in a generation that was going through a lot in their day in age, and they had their whole home desolated and demolished, and that Jesus came back and got his bride, all on faith... People wanna continue to believe that Jesus Christ still needs to come back in modern days today, then by all means go ahead and believe how you will. I will love you and enjoy your company, it is always beliving in Yeshua that makes a person right before Yahava, and that is someone praise worthy who overcame and had all enemies place beneath his feet now today. Faith and love is what it always comes back around to, 
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You made a statement. You said it was according to Revelations. If it was not so wouldn’t you want to know. If it was correct, I would want to know.
Being stubborn, is your prerogative…
so never mind. Conversation ended.
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Behold
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Man is "Tri-part"
He is "3", as God is 3<>1
Man is..
Body
Soul (mind, will, emotions)
Spirit (must be born again, or goes to Hell).
The topic asks whether or not man has an "immortal soul"?
God did NOT create humans with an immortal soul, but with flesh from the dust and spiritual mind (breath of life) and man became a LIVING SOUL! Not an immortal living soul, but alive with appetite, ability to think, and every bodily function. God created a man with a body of flesh & bone, and breathed into him the breath of life, which meant he/she was created spiritually minded, and together God called His creation a living soul or humankind. That's why Christ says, "Ye MUST be born again"! Because only by being born again of Christ's Spirit, because of the fall, shall man once again be spiritually minded as he was in the beginning when God created them.
Mankind will not be changed from mortal to immortal soul until they are physically resurrected in an hour that is coming when the last trumpet sounds. Then when ALL the bodies, both good & evil, are resurrected, only those who had been born again before they died shall become immortal and incorruptible living souls for the new earth. In that age that is coming mankind fit to live on the new earth forever will be body with flesh & bone, once again having a spiritual mind (breath of life) through the spirit of man that shall return with the Lord from heaven, and the two shall then be complete IMMORTAL & INCORRUPTIBLE living souls forever.
John 5:28-29 (KJV) Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
1 Corinthians 15:50-53 (KJV) Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
1 Thessalonians 4:14 (KJV) For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
Behold
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Yes, God gave the spirit to Adam.
The spirit is the real you.
The soul is the "mind, will, emotions".
Jesus said "YOU, must be born again".
That's not your body.
That's not your soul
Thats your "born again Spirit", ... once its born again.
And this birth of the spirit, as born again, is caused by the HOLY Spirit, and that is not God's mind, or God's soul.
Soul represents the WHOLE living being! Because every living breathing creature upon the earth is a living soul. The breath of life God breathed into man was for him to be spiritually minded. The spiritual mind God breathed into man at creation is what became "dead in trespasses and sins" on the day that man disobeyed God and heeded the voice of evil. From that moment mankind possesses a natural, carnal mind of the earth, without ability to understand that which is only known through spiritual discernment. That's why Christ says we must be spiritually born again to both know and enter the Kingdom of God. To be born again is to once again possess a spiritual mind that enables us to believe in Christ.
Genesis 6:17 (KJV) And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die.
Job 12:10 (KJV) In whose hand is the soul of every living thing, and the breath of all mankind.
Behold: "The spirit is the real you."
I agree! We could say 'we' are trapped in bodies destined to death. For those who die in Christ, death of the body sets us free, and our spirit ascends to heaven a spiritual body of believers still living souls. But in heaven our spirit as living soul has no physical form.
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