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People who say works are not an option,

They are lying to you. Works are all about love. Not perfecting oneself flesh, not about salvation. Jesus can hold back the flesh by his spirit in you.

Give him praise.

”My dear brothers and sisters, you are believers in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ. So don’t treat some people better than others. Suppose someone comes into your meeting wearing very nice clothes and a gold ring. At the same time a poor person comes in wearing old, dirty clothes. You show special attention to the person wearing nice clothes. You say, “Sit here in this good seat.” But you say to the poor person, “Stand there!” or “Sit on the floor by our feet!” Doesn’t this show that you think some people are more important than others? You set yourselves up as judges—judges who make bad decisions. Listen, my dear brothers and sisters. God chose the poor people in the world to be rich in faith. He chose them to receive the kingdom God promised to those who love him. But you show no respect to those who are poor. And you know that the rich are the ones who always try to control your lives. And they are the ones who take you to court. And the rich are the ones who insult the wonderful name of Christ, the name by which you are known. One law rules over all other laws. This royal law is found in the Scriptures: “Love your neighbor the same as you love yourself.” If you obey this law, you are doing right. But if you are treating one person as more important than another, you are sinning. You are guilty of breaking God’s law. My brothers and sisters, if a person claims to have faith but does nothing, that faith is worth nothing. Faith like that cannot save anyone. Suppose a brother or sister in Christ comes to you in need of clothes or something to eat. And you say to them, “God be with you! I hope you stay warm and get plenty to eat,” but you don’t give them the things they need. If you don’t help them, your words are worthless. It is the same with faith. If it is just faith and nothing more—if it doesn’t do anything—it is dead. But someone might argue, “Some people have faith, and others have good works.” My answer would be that you can’t show me your faith if you don’t do anything. But I will show you my faith by the good I do. You believe there is one God. That’s good, but even the demons believe that! And they shake with fear. You fool! Faith that does nothing is worth nothing. Do you want me to prove this to you? Our father Abraham was made right with God by what he did. He offered his son Isaac to God on the altar. So you see that Abraham’s faith and what he did worked together. His faith was made perfect by what he did. This shows the full meaning of the Scriptures that say, “Abraham believed God, and because of this faith he was accepted as one who is right with God.” Abraham was called “God’s friend.” So you see that people are made right with God by what they do. They cannot be made right by faith alone. Another example is Rahab. She was a prostitute, but she was made right with God by something she did. She helped those who were spying for God’s people. She welcomed them into her home and helped them escape by a different road. A person’s body that does not have a spirit is dead. It is the same with faith—faith that does nothing is dead!“
‭‭James‬ ‭2‬:‭1‬-‭9‬, ‭14‬-‭26‬ ‭ERV‬‬
 

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If you go to a gay person and scream at them they have to repent if they want to go to heaven

You are judging them

They need to be saved BEFORE they can overcome their sin.
stop using the word Scream . no one said scream . But warn any and all who do sin
Those who sin rebuke before all that others may FEAR . fear to sin .
Several places in the letters it makes mention of asap correction .
No one said scream . but warn them we must . this goes for any sin .
 

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”My dear brothers and sisters, you are believers in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ. So don’t treat some people better than others. Suppose someone comes into your meeting wearing very nice clothes and a gold ring. At the same time a poor person comes in wearing old, dirty clothes. You show special attention to the person wearing nice clothes. You say, “Sit here in this good seat.” But you say to the poor person, “Stand there!” or “Sit on the floor by our feet!” Doesn’t this show that you think some people are more important than others?
Yes, this also annoys me, we are all equals in the eyes of the Lord I believe as human beings....obviously the world doesn’t think so, it took me a long time to realise that my opinion also is just as valid as anyone else’s, ....

Only God can reveal his truth to our heart and as we see on many threads, everyone seems to interpret scripture so very differently......and everyone’s opinions differ regarding scripture as we see.
 

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If you go to a gay person and scream at them they have to repent if they want to go to heaven

You are judging them

They need to be saved BEFORE they can overcome their sin.
I give all this pepsi challenge . Go to those you know who are gay within your own church .
I bet they already CLAIM to BELEIVE ON JESUS CHRIST
if any who is a brother or a sister , exactly they must be corrected asap fast .
they cliam to believe on JESUS CHRIST and that is the problem .
And yet everyone just keeps saying Nothing to them .
Just keeps silent as they destroy themselves with a false notion they are saved , are born again
and that GOD is OKAY and fine with their sin . That is a problem and it must be corrected asap .
IF any cliams to believe on Christ JESUS and yet walking in their sin
THE CHURCHES TOTAL DUTY is to correct such a one and asap fast too .
Go on my dear friend , i bet you that those praticing homosexuality and are in the church
IF YOU ASK them do you believe on JESUS CHRIST , THEY GONNA SAY OH YEAH I LOVE HIM .
THEY come and are coming to a false version of HIM and the church not only wont correct them
heck its been begining to even call it good . this is what leaven does .
 
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I give all this pepsi challenge . Go to those you know who are gay within your own church .
I bet they already CLAIM to BELEIVE ON JESUS CHRIST
if any who is a brother or a sister , exactly they must be corrected asap fast .
they cliam to believe on JESUS CHRIST and that is the problem .
And yet everyone just keeps saying Nothing to them .
Just keeps silent as they destroy themselves with a false notion they are saved , are born again
and that GOD is OKAY and fine with their sin . That is a problem and it must be corrected asap .
IF any cliams to believe on Christ JESUS and yet walking in their sin
THE CHURCHES TOTAL DUTY is to correct such a one and asap fast too .
Go on my dear friend , i bet you that those praticing homosexuality and are in the church
IF YOU ASK them do you believe on JESUS CHRIST , THEY GONNA SAY OH YEAH I LOVE HIM .
THEY come and are coming to a false version of HIM and the church not only wont correct them
heck its been begining to even call it good . this is what leaven does .
The spotted brother. Praise the Lord.
 
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I give all this pepsi challenge . Go to those you know who are gay within your own church .
I bet they already CLAIM to BELEIVE ON JESUS CHRIST
if any who is a brother or a sister , exactly they must be corrected asap fast .
they cliam to believe on JESUS CHRIST and that is the problem .
And yet everyone just keeps saying Nothing to them .
Just keeps silent as they destroy themselves with a false notion they are saved , are born again
and that GOD is OKAY and fine with their sin . That is a problem and it must be corrected asap .
IF any cliams to believe on Christ JESUS and yet walking in their sin
THE CHURCHES TOTAL DUTY is to correct such a one and asap fast too .
Go on my dear friend , i bet you that those praticing homosexuality and are in the church
IF YOU ASK them do you believe on JESUS CHRIST , THEY GONNA SAY OH YEAH I LOVE HIM .
THEY come and are coming to a false version of HIM and the church not only wont correct them
heck its been begining to even call it good . this is what leaven does .
Best be reading our bibles and staying glued in them. Time is short. Believe in the biblical Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved.
 

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Yes, this also annoys me, we are all equals in the eyes of the Lord I believe as human beings....obviously the world doesn’t think so, it took me a long time to realise that my opinion also is just as valid as anyone else’s, ....

Only God can reveal his truth to our heart and as we see on many threads, everyone seems to interpret scripture so very differently......and everyone’s opinions differ regarding scripture as we see.
Yes Rita.

The world tells you to be strong and forceful.
While God uses the weak.

1 Corinthians 1:27
But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise, and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;
 

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@Eternally Grateful some people believe in the gospel and are humble. Some people believe in the gospel and they are cold. It depends on if the working of the fruit of love of God is coming through. Sometimes there is a blockade. That is why it’s not good to trust humans on the matters of God and seek for oneself.
some people believe in different gospels.

There is only one that saves..
 
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People who say works are not an option,

They are lying to you. Works are all about love. Not perfecting oneself flesh, not about salvation. Jesus can hold back the flesh by his spirit in you.

Give him praise.

”My dear brothers and sisters, you are believers in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ. So don’t treat some people better than others. Suppose someone comes into your meeting wearing very nice clothes and a gold ring. At the same time a poor person comes in wearing old, dirty clothes. You show special attention to the person wearing nice clothes. You say, “Sit here in this good seat.” But you say to the poor person, “Stand there!” or “Sit on the floor by our feet!” Doesn’t this show that you think some people are more important than others? You set yourselves up as judges—judges who make bad decisions. Listen, my dear brothers and sisters. God chose the poor people in the world to be rich in faith. He chose them to receive the kingdom God promised to those who love him. But you show no respect to those who are poor. And you know that the rich are the ones who always try to control your lives. And they are the ones who take you to court. And the rich are the ones who insult the wonderful name of Christ, the name by which you are known. One law rules over all other laws. This royal law is found in the Scriptures: “Love your neighbor the same as you love yourself.” If you obey this law, you are doing right. But if you are treating one person as more important than another, you are sinning. You are guilty of breaking God’s law. My brothers and sisters, if a person claims to have faith but does nothing, that faith is worth nothing. Faith like that cannot save anyone. Suppose a brother or sister in Christ comes to you in need of clothes or something to eat. And you say to them, “God be with you! I hope you stay warm and get plenty to eat,” but you don’t give them the things they need. If you don’t help them, your words are worthless. It is the same with faith. If it is just faith and nothing more—if it doesn’t do anything—it is dead. But someone might argue, “Some people have faith, and others have good works.” My answer would be that you can’t show me your faith if you don’t do anything. But I will show you my faith by the good I do. You believe there is one God. That’s good, but even the demons believe that! And they shake with fear. You fool! Faith that does nothing is worth nothing. Do you want me to prove this to you? Our father Abraham was made right with God by what he did. He offered his son Isaac to God on the altar. So you see that Abraham’s faith and what he did worked together. His faith was made perfect by what he did. This shows the full meaning of the Scriptures that say, “Abraham believed God, and because of this faith he was accepted as one who is right with God.” Abraham was called “God’s friend.” So you see that people are made right with God by what they do. They cannot be made right by faith alone. Another example is Rahab. She was a prostitute, but she was made right with God by something she did. She helped those who were spying for God’s people. She welcomed them into her home and helped them escape by a different road. A person’s body that does not have a spirit is dead. It is the same with faith—faith that does nothing is dead!“
‭‭James‬ ‭2‬:‭1‬-‭9‬, ‭14‬-‭26‬ ‭ERV‬‬
Once again, You are preaching OSAS or eternal security. Because it is all about faith not works.

we can not earn salvation, hence we can not "unearn" it
 

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stop using the word Scream . no one said scream .
If your talking to a person who is gay, and tell them in a soft voice, they must repent of that sin and stop if they want to go to heave, They hear you screaming at them.

But warn any and all who do sin
Those who sin rebuke before all that others may FEAR . fear to sin .
Several places in the letters it makes mention of asap correction .
No one said scream . but warn them we must . this goes for any sin .
All you need to do is show them they are a sinner, in fact they already know this, You do not need to attack their personal sin to give them the gospel. Jesus did not. neither should we.
 

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I give all this pepsi challenge . Go to those you know who are gay within your own church .
I bet they already CLAIM to BELEIVE ON JESUS CHRIST
if any who is a brother or a sister , exactly they must be corrected asap fast .
they cliam to believe on JESUS CHRIST and that is the problem .
And yet everyone just keeps saying Nothing to them .
Just keeps silent as they destroy themselves with a false notion they are saved , are born again
and that GOD is OKAY and fine with their sin . That is a problem and it must be corrected asap .
IF any cliams to believe on Christ JESUS and yet walking in their sin
THE CHURCHES TOTAL DUTY is to correct such a one and asap fast too .
Go on my dear friend , i bet you that those praticing homosexuality and are in the church
IF YOU ASK them do you believe on JESUS CHRIST , THEY GONNA SAY OH YEAH I LOVE HIM .
THEY come and are coming to a false version of HIM and the church not only wont correct them
heck its been begining to even call it good . this is what leaven does .
I do not know what churches you go to. But that does not happen in any church I have ever been to.

The churches i have been to will attack the person who claims to be gay, telling them to leave they are hellbound

or will come to them as a brother and love them, and help God to change them from the inside..

I must also ask, What sins do you practice? Don;t say you do not practice any, we all have bessetting sin, and then I would ask you what makes you think you are better than them?
 

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some people believe in different gospels.

There is only one that saves..
The death, burial, and resurrection…

There are people who may have manmade traditions and teachings which are presented. Which overtime can be overcome.

God looks at individuals heart, not the information.
 

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There are certainly things that God will reveal to his servants, but the truth is plain to understand and needs no “revelation” within itself.

We either obey.

Or we disobey.
Can you explain how you would know how to obey God?

By the way a “ Born Again “ is a child of God....we were chosen for his purpose and plan.....our spirit became Born Again when God decided to “ Spirit gives birth to spirit “.....we are Born Of The Spirit...only God knows how he does this, it can’t be taught....it’s a “ supernatural “ act of God.

The Spirit testifies with our spirit that we are Gods children...plus there is nowhere in Gods word that says a “ Born Again “ can lose their salvation...quite the opposite in fact.

So, I’m not sure what you think Born Again means...
 

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The death, burial, and resurrection…

There are people who may have manmade traditions and teachings which are presented. Which overtime can be overcome.

God looks at individuals heart, not the information.
Yes

But some people teach that PLUS works

and some say they believe in it, But they do not trust it..

they are not believing the gospel.
 
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Can you explain how you would know how to obey God?

By the way a “ Born Again “ is a child of God....we were chosen for his purpose and plan.....our spirit became Born Again when God decided to “ Spirit gives birth to spirit “.....we are Born Of The Spirit...only God knows how he does this, it can’t be taught....it’s a “ supernatural “ act of God.

The Spirit testifies with our spirit that we are Gods children...plus there is nowhere in Gods word that says a “ Born Again “ can lose their salvation...quite the opposite in fact.

So, I’m not sure what you think Born Again means...

Do you obey the commandment to Love your God with all your heart, soul, mind and strength, to love your neighbor as yourself? Is that something we must adhere to?
 

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Do you obey the commandment to Love your God with all your heart, soul, mind and strength, to love your neighbor as yourself? Is that something we must adhere to?
Can you tell me how you would know how to Love God?

If it’s just by reading your Bible, then I disagree....we must be Born Of The Spirit to Love God in spirit, ...how would you know God without being Born Of The Spirit?

Where does faith come from?...and remember , without the Spirit God does not recognise us, it’s our spirit that must be Born Again/ become spiritually alive, by the power of the Spirit.

Our spirit must be regenerated, brought to life...that’s supernatural and only God can do that....

You can’t Love God without his Spirit, why do I love God, because he Loved me first in my spirit, when he made me Born Of The Spirit....

God is a Living Active Spirit, he’s not a book , he can’t be contained either.
 
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I do not know what churches you go to. But that does not happen in any church I have ever been to.

The churches i have been to will attack the person who claims to be gay, telling them to leave they are hellbound

or will come to them as a brother and love them, and help God to change them from the inside..

I must also ask, What sins do you practice? Don;t say you do not practice any, we all have bessetting sin, and then I would ask you what makes you think you are better than them?
And people wonder why it just keeps on getting worse . People fell for the strategies of men
Should have stayed continually refreshed in the bible .
You all use the same repsonses to those who correct . Its quite universal , because that is how it was programmed
into the minds of the people within the churches .
This is a very sad day indeed .
 
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